The 2010 Baseball Thread

Cliff Lee in game 1. Excellent. Bring on the Giants or Phillies (preferably the Giants).

Imagine the Phillies getting beat by a team with Cliff Lee on it. Hehe.

Yankees fan don't worry. Next year that club will be back in the WS after signing Crawford and Lee. :rolleyes:
 
Yankees fan don't worry. Next year that club will be back in the WS after signing Crawford and Lee. :rolleyes:

Ordinarily I would say can't you just beat us without the quips afterwards? But :D

Yankee's hitters flatout sucked and have done since September so it comes as no suprise that we fell short. On to the next one, shame we probably won't bring back Kerry Wood and we might have to waste big money on keeping a declining icon in Derek Jeter. I really hope Pettitte stays on and I assume Mo will re-sign too.

I think we will work the trade market more than Free Agency (which will be reserved for Cliff Lee and bullpen arms) and I don't think we will go for Carl Crawford. Jesus Montero is gonna be up to cycle with Posada and I am very excited to see how that kid does.
 
If the Yanks are smart, they'll let Jeter test the market to see where his price range is versus rushing out to pay him top dollar. Sometimes a club has to move forward.
 
Cliff Lee in game 1. Excellent. Bring on the Giants or Phillies (preferably the Giants).

Imagine the Phillies getting beat by a team with Cliff Lee on it. Hehe.

I think the Giants could give the Rangers a run at it. I think the Phillies will get crushed, especially with Halladay having a groin pull.
 
If the Yanks are smart, they'll let Jeter test the market to see where his price range is versus rushing out to pay him top dollar. Sometimes a club has to move forward.

I agree but then that is a risky think to do in the current market simply because there are very few good shortstops available. Say Jeter walks who can the Yankee's actually get? Nobody who stands out in the free agency pool, trade for Ramirez or Tulowitzki? Would have to give up far too much, no real prospects ready to fill the gap. Only thing to do is get a stopgap position player and hope a trade pops or Jeter signs for realistic value.
 
I'm fairly certain the Yankees will sign Ramirez when he's eligible for free agency after 2014 - right about the time Jeter won't be able to make a throw to first base.
 
Tulo would be good for the Yankees to get if they do let Jeter go, though I doubt they will hell retire a yankee i reckon
 
Nobody thought we were any good. We won 93 games for a reason.

This feels better than 2002.

Very excited for the WS. Should be great.

My business partner is a Rangers fan, so that will be weird.

I didn't think you were shit. I just thought the Phillies had strong pitching(I knew the Giants had done well against that pitching) and strong batting, plus experience and would in the end, get over the line.

Don't mind the Rangers winning the AL pennant, anyone but the Yankees and Red Sox(I think they are just as bad as the Yankees now)
 
It's more nerve racking watching the Giants then United. Been a Giant fan since Mays, McCovey and Marichal and feels good to go the Series. Here's hoping they win their first Wold Series in my lifetime.
 
It's more nerve racking watching the Giants then United. Been a Giant fan since Mays, McCovey and Marichal and feels good to go the Series. Here's hoping they win their first Wold Series in my lifetime.

Until we win one it will be. It's brutal but this year feels special
 
If Giants can win the first game and beat Lee it will have the same effect as beating Halladay in game one of the NLCS.
 
Oh, here we go again. "Roy Halladay going at least twice. I'll take Philly in six."

Been there, heard that.

:rolleyes: Sorry that you had to get emotional because of my opinion.

I believe Lee's postseason record speaks for itself. Ask the Rockies, Dodgers, Rays, and Yankees. Halladay certainly didn't dominate in his starts against SF, going 1-1 while giving up 14 hits in 13 IP, 6 ER, and recording a 4.15 ERA and .256 BAA. Granted he looked good in Game 5 but not so good in Game 1.

Lee in 2010: 3 GS, 3-0, 1 CG, 0.75 ERA, 24 IP, 2 R/2 ER, 13 H, 34 K, 1 BB, .151 BAA - against two of the top three run scoring teams in MLB.

Colby Lewis dominated the Yankees in his two starts as well.

Rangers in six. Believe what you want I'll go with my pick. If I were a betting man, Lee is about as sure a lock as there is right now. Doesn't mean he'll win each start but I'd be surprised if he doesn't.
 
:rolleyes: Sorry that you had to get emotional because of my opinion.

Could not have been less emotional. Don't be ridiculous.

I believe Lee's postseason record speaks for itself. Ask the Rockies, Dodgers, Rays, and Yankees. Halladay certainly didn't dominate in his starts against SF, going 1-1 while giving up 14 hits in 13 IP, 6 ER, and recording a 4.15 ERA and .256 BAA. Granted he looked good in Game 5 but not so good in Game 1.

Yeah, that's because he was playing the Giants. He seemed to do fine against Cincy. And I'll take Lincecum against Lee any day. This is the exact shit we heard before the Philly series. All the numbers on paper thrown out. Same old shit.

Lee in 2010: 3 GS, 3-0, 1 CG, 0.75 ERA, 24 IP, 2 R/2 ER, 13 H, 34 K, 1 BB, .151 BAA - against two of the top three run scoring teams in MLB.

Yeah, numbers not as good as Cains, who has an ERA of 0.00 in his postseason games.

Rangers in six. Believe what you want I'll go with my pick. If I were a betting man, Lee is about as sure a lock as there is right now. Doesn't mean he'll win each start but I'd be surprised if he doesn't.

Yep. Same old. Overlook the Giants pitching. Heard it before. You're literally making the exact same arguments people made about the Phillies.
 
Cincy was a ridiculously young team which looked frazzled by the idea of the playoffs.

Lee > Lincecum every day of the week. Do I want a guy who put up a 3.43 era during the regular season in what is BY FAR the weakest division hitting wise or a guy who put up a 3.18 era in the AL and whose postseason numbers are the best ever through this many games? I think the choice is obvious. That said, anything can happen in baseball and it's entirely possible that Cliff Lee could implode (tend to doubt it though).
 
If Lee were a Giant you'd be picking him over whomever. It's a biased pick. Granted I'm picking Lee partially on bias but also on his postseason track record. And the only thing Cain beats Lee is ERA. All his other stats are well behind Lee. 11 K to 34 K, 5 BB to 1 BB, 13.2 IP to 24 IP, 1 win to 3 wins. Oh, but of course that's why you only mentioned his ERA. Sigh.

Philly was overhyped going into the playoffs. Believe what you want Redwood. I look forward to your congratulations when Texas wins. Shame the Giants choked against the Angels in 2002 - when I was rooting for them as I did in 1989 against the Juiced A's.
 
Cincy was a ridiculously young team which looked frazzled by the idea of the playoffs.

Lee > Lincecum every day of the week. Do I want a guy who put up a 3.43 era during the regular season in what is BY FAR the weakest division hitting wise or a guy who put up a 3.18 era in the AL and whose postseason numbers are the best ever through this many games? I think the choice is obvious. That said, anything can happen in baseball and it's entirely possible that Cliff Lee could implode (tend to doubt it though).

I guess you didn't follow the team. Lincecum had a horrible August. Worst of his career. Then he decided to learn how to throw a slider. Yes, he learned a new pitch in August. That's why the Braves looked like children against him. Because the two time cy young winner learned a new pitch and it was insanely good.

Take out August and his numbers are better than anyone in baseball. A bump, a glitch. I don't buy the AL vs NL shit. A lack of having to stratagize makes life easy for AL pitchers.
 
And getting to pitch against the pitcher makes it a bit easier for NL pitchers. That's basically an out 9 out of 10.

Apples and oranges. That's why I say make the DH universal or eliminate from the sport.
 
Only two writers picked the Giants and one picked Texas when the playoffs began.

ESPN experts: Who's going to win? - ESPN

Okay. How's that going now? Everyone is picking Texas now. And the only reason they are doing that is because they beat the Yankees. Classic East Coast bias. We're used to it. Anyone who beats the Yankees has to win the world series, according to East Coast rules. I mean, feck, it's the Yankees for Gods sake. Even though this Yankees team was pretty much shit.

Just saying if you look at the Giants on paper, they shouldn't even really be in the playoffs. It's not about paper. As i said in this thread when the playoffs began, think 1988 Dodgers. The Giants just make shit happen and the other team can't believe they are losing. Aside from Cody Ross, the Giants just his .218 as a team and won in six games. That's Giants baseball. There is no understanding it.

We only need to score 1 or 2 runs to win every game. We only need to win 4 out of 7 that way.

The only thing that concerns me is Bengie Molina. That's it.
 
And getting to pitch against the pitcher makes it a bit easier for NL pitchers. That's basically an out 9 out of 10.

Apples and oranges. That's why I say make the DH universal or eliminate from the sport.

Being able to take out a pitcher at any time during the game when you don't have to worry about the pitcher's spot coming up in the line up makes it easier for AL pitchers.

Sorry, that argument just doesn't hold up. It evens it out.
 
Being able to take out a pitcher at any time during the game when you don't have to worry about the pitcher's spot coming up in the line up makes it easier for AL pitchers.

Sorry, that argument just doesn't hold up. It evens it out.

Then why do many AL pitchers go to the NL and their ERA drops? It's not always the case but the stats back it up that it is more often than not.

The statistical impact of switching leagues (for pitchers)

Five FA Pitchers Who Could Benefit From The NL: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Do Pitchers Perform Better in The National League? | Bleacher Report

Sports | Baseball Analysis | Switching to NL tends to help pitchers | Seattle Times Newspaper

Go look at the likes of Clemens (3.5 or higher each year with Yanks, under 3 with Houston), Johnson (4.33 to 1.28 in split season; under 3 all but one of 6 years in Arizona) and Sabathia (3.83 to 1.65 in a split season; back over 3 with the Yanks) over the last decade and their ERA numbers. And those are amongst the best in the current era, steroids or not. Halladay's ERA dropped 0.35 from 2009 with Toronto, and he was a freak in the AL.

It's clear as day when looking at runs scored and hitting that the AL generates more runs and power which obviously comes off AL pitching. Two of the worst NL-to-AL: Chan Ho Park and Javy Vazquez. Barry Zito gets the AL-to-NL goat.
 
Okay. How's that going now? Everyone is picking Texas now. And the only reason they are doing that is because they beat the Yankees. Classic East Coast bias. We're used to it. Anyone who beats the Yankees has to win the world series, according to East Coast rules. I mean, feck, it's the Yankees for Gods sake. Even though this Yankees team was pretty much shit.

Just saying if you look at the Giants on paper, they shouldn't even really be in the playoffs. It's not about paper. As i said in this thread when the playoffs began, think 1988 Dodgers. The Giants just make shit happen and the other team can't believe they are losing. Aside from Cody Ross, the Giants just his .218 as a team and won in six games. That's Giants baseball. There is no understanding it.

We only need to score 1 or 2 runs to win every game. We only need to win 4 out of 7 that way.

The only thing that concerns me is Bengie Molina. That's it.

I can easily write a short summary about Texas as well, and they shouldn't be there either. But I'm not going to waste my time so you'll come along, tossing your toys out in a rage, and saying this or that, "we're underdogs, not supposed to be here, east coast bias." Just a few posts up your ranting about the Phillies being everyone's pick and now it's supposedly the Yankees. Which is it? It's become boring.
 
I can easily write a short summary about Texas as well, and they shouldn't be there either. But I'm not going to waste my time so you'll come along, tossing your toys out in a rage, and saying this or that, "we're underdogs, not supposed to be here, east coast bias." Just a few posts up your ranting about the Phillies being everyone's pick and now it's supposedly the Yankees. Which is it? It's become boring.

Is there any argument you ever have on these boards where you don't accuse someone of getting angry?

It's tired, boring and untrue, in this case, which is how it usually is with you.

I apologize for making good points - apparently they are "angry"

Now attempt to improve your reading skills as I did not say the Yankees were the favorites in my post.
 
Is there any argument you ever have on these boards where you don't accuse someone of getting angry?

It's tired, boring and untrue, in this case.

I apologize for making good points - apparently they are "angry"

Now attempt to improve your reading skills as I did not say the Yankees were the favorites in my post.

Just yours.

Cheers.
 
I guess you didn't follow the team. Lincecum had a horrible August. Worst of his career. Then he decided to learn how to throw a slider. Yes, he learned a new pitch in August. That's why the Braves looked like children against him. Because the two time cy young winner learned a new pitch and it was insanely good.

Take out August and his numbers are better than anyone in baseball. A bump, a glitch. I don't buy the AL vs NL shit. A lack of having to stratagize makes life easier for AL pitchers.

:lol: If we're going to take out August, let's take out Cliff Lee's August too. So then, Lincecum's ERA without August included is 2.84. Cliff Lee's is 2.32. There's that gone. Good try though.

You might want to stop talking out your ass about life being easier for AL pitchers too. Just makes you sound plain old stupid. Ask any baseball expert which is easier to pitch in and they'll all tell you the same thing - the NL. Statistics back it up, but I suppose they're lying somehow, right?
 
You might want to stop talking out your ass about life being easier for AL pitchers too. Just makes you sound plain old stupid.

Never meant to say that. Meant to say "easy," as in, it's easier to know who you're facing and when. There's no worry about getting through the next batter because the pitchers spot might be coming up. It's pretty obvious not having to deal with the pitcher's spot coming up and the changes that have to be made in the game due to that makes it easier for AL pitchers to just be yanked at any time.

In the NL, they have to face batters when in the AL, when it's not going right, they just yank them out. Not so in the NL. They often have to try to keep them in for an extra batter or two to get to the end of the inning.

That seems obvious.