The “Ole In” Brigade

He's been backed fully by Woodward, and has made the team worse. He's also been presented a total pass on giving us our worst season in 30 years. He should be counting his blessings.
Backed fully my arse!

£70 mill net spend is pathetic when you consider the players that we needed to get rid of.

Not to mention that for a club of our size and standing in the game to only spend that under a new manager during our biggest rebuild in recent memory!
*Compare that to Real Madrid who were undergoing a rebuild and see what they spent mate!

Fully backed, that’s a joke.
 
Backed fully my arse!

£70 mill net spend is pathetic when you consider the players that we needed to get rid of.

Not to mention that for a club of our size and standing in the game to only spend that under a new manager during our biggest rebuild in recent memory!
*Compare that to Real Madrid who were undergoing a rebuild and see what they spent mate!

Fully backed, that’s a joke.
He spent £150 million!
 
Backed fully my arse!

£70 mill net spend is pathetic when you consider the players that we needed to get rid of.

Not to mention that for a club of our size and standing in the game to only spend that under a new manager during our biggest rebuild in recent memory!
*Compare that to Real Madrid who were undergoing a rebuild and see what they spent mate!

Fully backed, that’s a joke.

To be fair though, A lot of that falls on Ole aswell for being a pathetic yes man.
 
Well he still is a burden on the wage bill. We're basically paying him to do nothing somewhere else
That part of it is definitely stupid. Par for the course these days for us, however. We're just a stupid club, above all else.
 
To be fair though, A lot of that falls on Ole aswell for being a pathetic yes man.

By that standard, Ferguson was a pathetic yes man as well, considering how he was supported in replacing Ronaldo.

Ole is, and always has been a team player... you could see that by his attitude from the bench, by him taking a red card against Newcastle, and now, by defending the undefendable... even going so far as to take responsibility for it... we even have Riola praising him through gritted teeth.

But sure, it's because Ole can't get Woodward to be a good DoF, just like Van Gaal & Mourinho we've hired another yes man.
 
Backed fully my arse!

£70 mill net spend is pathetic when you consider the players that we needed to get rid of.

Not to mention that for a club of our size and standing in the game to only spend that under a new manager during our biggest rebuild in recent memory!
*Compare that to Real Madrid who were undergoing a rebuild and see what they spent mate!

Fully backed, that’s a joke.

No one told him to sell Lukaku in the dying minutes of the market.
 
It's never ole's fault.

The amount of posters defending him by saying he's not backed when the manager himself defends the board and its strategy in every presser is staggering. I bet if Ole himself told them in person he's backed they tell him "No you're lying, I know better than you weren't backed!!" or something.
 
You already know what would happen if Woodward did this, because he literally tried to do it, and Klopp said no because he didn't trust/like Woodward's idea of "backing"...and yet was happy to accept the job at Liverpool instead. I mean how much more clear do you need it to be? It's a completely self defeating argument.

How much clearer can it be than the manager you are using as an example, literally turning down the job here BECAUSE of the way the club is run?

You might as well be claiming that banging your head against a brick wall wont hurt your head, whilst being bandaged up because you banged your head against a brick wall.

And again you are being dishonest and over simplifying. "If we sacked Solskjaer and got this other manager who know we can't get, and then gave him loads more money to sign better players than Solskjaer had, he would do better than Solskjaer"...well, duh.

Well at least you agreed he will do better than Ole. And that's in any circumstance

Anyways that's not answering my question. Your idea is that any manager will fail under Woodward which is hypothetical because we haven't tried every manager. And now I'm asking you hypothetically again, if Klopp came in during Mourinho's time and was given the same net spend as Mourinho had in three years do you think he would have failed? It's a hypothetical question that's meant to give me more insight so whether Klopp has rejected us doesn't matter in this argument
 
He's doing fine. We're exactly where most people would put us in the league. So he's neither over achieving or under achieving.

We're rebuilding. Some good football being played by us at times, we need to kick on though now. We're screwed with injuries. Ole needs these core players back AND at least 2 more good transfer windows in my opinion.
 
It's never ole's fault.


Nope, he has zero accountability. Absolutely nothing, even coaching the team, is on Ole. It is all on someone else. This lack of accountability trickles down to the players, who (even before injuries), were picked consistently for shite performances and some rewarded with new contracts.
 
He got *some* of the players he wanted. He also said it would be ridiculous to let Lukaku leave without replacing him and what did Ed do?

Well according to Lukaku he told Ole he wanted to leave in March...

Who was his well thought out replacement? Mandzukic?

He needs help but he shouldn’t be learning here go to Swansea or something.
 
The term "The Ole In Brigade" makes me chuckle. It makes us sound dangerous or something:p
 
He's doing fine. We're exactly where most people would put us in the league. So he's neither over achieving or under achieving.

We're rebuilding. Some good football being played by us at times, we need to kick on though now. We're screwed with injuries. Ole needs these core players back AND at least 2 more good transfer windows in my opinion.

I’m sick of you.

We haven’t played an ounce of good football all season and he’s the worst manager we have ever had. But he’s doing fine. Yes probably by his own personal standards.
 
He's doing fine. We're exactly where most people would put us in the league. So he's neither over achieving or under achieving.

We're rebuilding. Some good football being played by us at times, we need to kick on though now. We're screwed with injuries. Ole needs these core players back AND at least 2 more good transfer windows in my opinion.

Exactly, I'm pretty sure most fans at the start of the season would've expected us to have a rough season from the get go. Ole tbf himself said we're gonna be inconsistent even during the wins again Man City and Tottenham

It's crazy how some here think he should've done better with this squad that's thread bare and missing all essential players.

The guys who want Ole out want quick fixes to a problem that has compounded over a decade. Ole might very well not be the man but whoever it is needs time to get in all the right pieces.
 
He's doing fine. We're exactly where most people would put us in the league. So he's neither over achieving or under achieving.

We're rebuilding. Some good football being played by us at times, we need to kick on though now. We're screwed with injuries. Ole needs these core players back AND at least 2 more good transfer windows in my opinion.
Do you actually believe any of the nonsense you spew?
 
I’m sick of you.

We haven’t played an ounce of good football all season and he’s the worst manager we have ever had. But he’s doing fine. Yes probably by his own personal standards.

That’s an emotional comment based off the back of a poor game against Burnley. Much like everything littered over the media. Which was horrendous no doubt, but a matter of weeks ago, we tore city apart away from home, in what was probably the best post fergie display of football we’ve had. So don’t tell me Ole isn’t capable of getting a tune out of this squad.


What really gets me is you look at the teams around us, Chelsea have been very poor recently. Spurs nearly dropped points the other night at home to Norwich! Yet Lampard and Jose aren’t getting strung up in the media. I see comments like “it’s an embarrassment, worst team in 30 years, etc” all over the news...Ok so for the past 7 years, we’ve been exactly where we are right now, between 4th-7th, excluding one season when we finished 2nd, miles behind city. Add to that, pogba has played, what 5-6 games, martial was out for months, mctominay has been out for ages, now rashford out for ages. All massively key players, in a paper thin team.

the bottom line is we’ve been poor in recruitment. Reports on sky, Fernandes deal was almost done and we suddenly decide to knock 10 mil off what we agreed cause they are strapped for cash, to try and get him on the cheap. Great move Ed! Lukaku saying Jose never got the players he wanted...report after report of interest in players with nothing ever coming to fruition. That all falls firmly with Woodward and Matt Judge.
 
That’s an emotional comment based off the back of a poor game against Burnley. Much like everything littered over the media. Which was horrendous no doubt, but a matter of weeks ago, we tore city apart away from home, in what was probably the best post fergie display of football we’ve had. So don’t tell me Ole isn’t capable of getting a tune out of this squad.


What really gets me is you look at the teams around us, Chelsea have been very poor recently. Spurs nearly dropped points the other night at home to Norwich! Yet Lampard and Jose aren’t getting strung up in the media. I see comments like “it’s an embarrassment, worst team in 30 years, etc” all over the news...Ok so for the past 7 years, we’ve been exactly where we are right now, between 4th-7th, excluding one season when we finished 2nd, miles behind city. Add to that, pogba has played, what 5-6 games, martial was out for months, mctominay has been out for ages, now rashford out for ages. All massively key players, in a paper thin team.

the bottom line is we’ve been poor in recruitment. Reports on sky, Fernandes deal was almost done and we suddenly decide to knock 10 mil off what we agreed cause they are strapped for cash, to try and get him on the cheap. Great move Ed! Lukaku saying Jose never got the players he wanted...report after report of interest in players with nothing ever coming to fruition. That all falls firmly with Woodward and Matt Judge.

No it wasn’t we played counter attacking football it was a poor Second half and we never kept passion for longer than 15 seconds once. Fans were happy with the win that’s it. The fact you believe that’s our best performance since Fergie probably just means you’ve bumped your head.

I wasn’t emotionally either it was personal.. never is with my replies.
 
I can't see that he's in any position to apply any pressure behind the scenes. He's managing one of the biggest clubs in the world, despite the fact that no other Premier League team would have him. The fans are losing faith and he's seemingly only still in place because the board have decided it suits them, for now at least. Seems to me he has no leverage whatsoever.

He has about as much leverage as any other manager would, which ultimately is not very much.
 
That’s an emotional comment based off the back of a poor game against Burnley. Much like everything littered over the media. Which was horrendous no doubt, but a matter of weeks ago, we tore city apart away from home, in what was probably the best post fergie display of football we’ve had. So don’t tell me Ole isn’t capable of getting a tune out of this squad

The result was fantastic but in absolutely no way did we “tear apart” City for crying out loud.
 
That’s an emotional comment based off the back of a poor game against Burnley. Much like everything littered over the media. Which was horrendous no doubt, but a matter of weeks ago, we tore city apart away from home, in what was probably the best post fergie display of football we’ve had. So don’t tell me Ole isn’t capable of getting a tune out of this squad.


What really gets me is you look at the teams around us, Chelsea have been very poor recently. Spurs nearly dropped points the other night at home to Norwich! Yet Lampard and Jose aren’t getting strung up in the media. I see comments like “it’s an embarrassment, worst team in 30 years, etc” all over the news...Ok so for the past 7 years, we’ve been exactly where we are right now, between 4th-7th, excluding one season when we finished 2nd, miles behind city. Add to that, pogba has played, what 5-6 games, martial was out for months, mctominay has been out for ages, now rashford out for ages. All massively key players, in a paper thin team.

the bottom line is we’ve been poor in recruitment. Reports on sky, Fernandes deal was almost done and we suddenly decide to knock 10 mil off what we agreed cause they are strapped for cash, to try and get him on the cheap. Great move Ed! Lukaku saying Jose never got the players he wanted...report after report of interest in players with nothing ever coming to fruition. That all falls firmly with Woodward and Matt Judge.

Definitely not true.
 
The result was fantastic but in absolutely no way did we “tear apart” City for crying out loud.


Example of lowered standards, yet again. Not knocking the result, but just winning a game nowadays entails 'ripping someone apart' or a 'great performance', even if it was smash and grab.
 
That’s an emotional comment based off the back of a poor game against Burnley. Much like everything littered over the media. Which was horrendous no doubt, but a matter of weeks ago, we tore city apart away from home, in what was probably the best post fergie display of football we’ve had. So don’t tell me Ole isn’t capable of getting a tune out of this squad.


What really gets me is you look at the teams around us, Chelsea have been very poor recently. Spurs nearly dropped points the other night at home to Norwich! Yet Lampard and Jose aren’t getting strung up in the media. I see comments like “it’s an embarrassment, worst team in 30 years, etc” all over the news...Ok so for the past 7 years, we’ve been exactly where we are right now, between 4th-7th, excluding one season when we finished 2nd, miles behind city. Add to that, pogba has played, what 5-6 games, martial was out for months, mctominay has been out for ages, now rashford out for ages. All massively key players, in a paper thin team.

the bottom line is we’ve been poor in recruitment. Reports on sky, Fernandes deal was almost done and we suddenly decide to knock 10 mil off what we agreed cause they are strapped for cash, to try and get him on the cheap. Great move Ed! Lukaku saying Jose never got the players he wanted...report after report of interest in players with nothing ever coming to fruition. That all falls firmly with Woodward and Matt Judge.

Remind me again of what happened in the rematch a few weeks later when Pep adapted to what we did in the first match and Ole had no clue how to adjust the entire match. That's the definition of "tore apart"

We can agree that player recruitment has been poor, but a reminder that Ole said it was his choice to spend the budget on the players he did, and be rid of the players he wanted to be rid of with no replacements, the squad is on him. And a vastly better manager would be getting a better tune out of it.
 
The idea that anything quasi “Ole - Out” related is more “emotionally” based than the idea of putting our blind faith in an ex-player with no qualified managerial experience, who would’ve never gotten close to the job otherwise and has won less games than Burnley this season, to rebuild us over several seasons with no money in a manner no major club has done in several decades is frankly through the looking glass- level bonkers...

We seem to be at the “flagrant projection” point of the cycle...but cool beans guys... carry on...
 
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The idea that anything quasi “Ole - Out” related is more “emotionally” based than the idea of putting our blind faith in an ex-player with no qualified managerial experience, who would’ve never gotten close to the job otherwise, to rebuild us over several seasons with no money in a manner no major club has done in several decades is frankly through the looking glass- level bonkers, but cool beans guys... carry on...

:lol:

As usual, Mockey and Pogue have a quick pop in and both talk complete sense. There is an Ole cult and it's absolutely stark raving bonkers.
 
I’m sick of you.

We haven’t played an ounce of good football all season and he’s the worst manager we have ever had. But he’s doing fine. Yes probably by his own personal standards.
Wow. I 100% agree with him. Having watched these same players for years, they are not going to suddenly become world beaters. If being realistic, we are exactly where we should. But increasingly posts like this, against people who view it in a positive and different manner is making me sick of this forum to be fair.
 
I’m sick of you.

We haven’t played an ounce of good football all season and he’s the worst manager we have ever had. But he’s doing fine. Yes probably by his own personal standards.

If you're sick of him maybe it's better you stay out of thread entitled "Ole in brigade" to avoid being triggered.
 
Wow. I 100% agree with him. Having watched these same players for years, they are not going to suddenly become world beaters. If being realistic, we are exactly where we should. But increasingly posts like this, against people who view it in a positive and different manner is making me sick of this forum to be fair.

We're sick of you already to be fair and you've only been here for 70 posts.
 
We're sick of you already to be fair and you've only been here for 70 posts.
Thanx. I would guess the likes of you, or “we” as you call yourself - would shy any form of fotball debate.. But I wouldn’t be to sure about them 70 posts..But you kinda proved my point..
 
Well at least you agreed he will do better than Ole. And that's in any circumstance

Anyways that's not answering my question. Your idea is that any manager will fail under Woodward which is hypothetical because we haven't tried every manager. And now I'm asking you hypothetically again, if Klopp came in during Mourinho's time and was given the same net spend as Mourinho had in three years do you think he would have failed? It's a hypothetical question that's meant to give me more insight so whether Klopp has rejected us doesn't matter in this argument

It's not a hypothetical question, because we offered Klopp the job and he turned it down, because HE didn't think he would have succeeded here. We tried it, and it did fail, before it even got started. I don't know how you're not getting this. It cannot be a hypothetical question if it has already actually happened.

I agreed a manager would do better than Ole if they had better players than Ole has and were allowed to spend the money you are suggesting they would be allowed to spend. do you know who else would definitely do better under these circumstances? Ole would. It's impossible to argue he wouldn't. What kind of question is this?

What hypothetical question do you want answering next? Would a box weigh more if you put some weights in it?

Again you are completely defeating your own argument. Trying to say that changing the manager would be a solution regardless of the circumstances or how the club/Woodward chooses to back them, but then tacking on "if they were allowed to spend £280m on improving the squad"...So you don't think the squad is good enough or that Ole has been given sufficient chance or funds to improve it? Or you do in which case why does a new manager need £280m just to not fail?

As I said before, pick which argument you are actually making because one is clearly contradicting the other.



Now, if you want to ask me (hypothetically) if Klopp would do better with THIS current squad of players IN THE SAME circumstances as Ole has had to manage them, then yes I think hew would do better, but I also think he is the best current manager in the world...and the best manager in the world wouldn't waste their time on taking a job where the best possible outcome is failing less than someone else would.
 
To be fair though, A lot of that falls on Ole aswell for being a pathetic yes man.
Most, if not all, employees are pathetic yes men to their bosses though

look how it ended for Mourinho

Ole is not the type to rock the boat and give the press something to write about, it just adds more pressure in the end (especially for United who the press have a field day with over anything.)
 
No one told him to sell Lukaku in the dying minutes of the market.
He went AWOL and wanted out, nobody was desperate to keep him and as I’ve said probably one thousand times - there is no way Ole sells the biggest goalscorer without being assured by Ed there would be a replacement.

I can’t take anybody posting here that thinks Ole was truly happy with only securing 3 players and not replacing Lukaku (no matter what Ole says when he’s towing the line to the press.)
He’s just not an egomaniac like Mourinho
 
He's doing fine. We're exactly where most people would put us in the league. So he's neither over achieving or under achieving.

We're rebuilding. Some good football being played by us at times, we need to kick on though now. We're screwed with injuries. Ole needs these core players back AND at least 2 more good transfer windows in my opinion.
Second largest wage bill in the league, massive investment done since Fergie left as a champion (think we’re easily top3 in spending in that period) and you’re telling me casually losing to bottom 6 sides and smiles after each embarrassment are completely fine, because opposition fans assumed we’d again finish out of top4 this season? Well they did so because they know our manager has absolutely no success to his name (and even if I consider Klopp an underachiever, the fact Ole tries to compare himself to the German is just sad), little to no idea how United should play and complete lack of ability in terms of motivating players. That’s far from fine for me
 
Do people think the likes of James Milner, Jordan Henderson, Adam Lallana etc are world beaters? Or is it possible Klopps coaching has taken them to a far higher level than they were capable of under previous managers. Will our players become world beaters? No, will they become far better players under a better coach that can coach them above their level? Yup.
 
He went AWOL and wanted out, nobody was desperate to keep him and as I’ve said probably one thousand times - there is no way Ole sells the biggest goalscorer without being assured by Ed there would be a replacement.

I can’t take anybody posting here that thinks Ole was truly happy with only securing 3 players and not replacing Lukaku (no matter what Ole says when he’s towing the line to the press.)
He’s just not an egomaniac like Mourinho

And we failed to sign a replacement through out the window, why didn't he cancel the deal and keep him ? The player was under contract and he would have played.

But the reality was Ole wasn't really that worried about him going even after we failed to sign a replacement through the summer he still let him go, because he viewed him as a bench option at best anyway. We were never in the market for any top striker. We just wanted another bench option and when we didn't get him it wasn't a big deal and we let Lukaku go anyway even when he knew he wouldn't have more options for the season.

Anyway why shouldn't I believe Ole when he says he's fully backed and he has the final say and believes some posters on internet that thinks otherwise ? If he's lying then he's a yes man covering for Woodward and the Glazers, and that actually deserves far more criticism than what we're doing currently.
 
Second largest wage bill in the league, massive investment done since Fergie left as a champion (think we’re easily top3 in spending in that period) and you’re telling me casually losing to bottom 6 sides and smiles after each embarrassment are completely fine, because opposition fans assumed we’d again finish out of top4 this season? Well they did so because they know our manager has absolutely no success to his name (and even if I consider Klopp an underachiever, the fact Ole tries to compare himself to the German is just sad), little to no idea how United should play and complete lack of ability in terms of motivating players. That’s far from fine for me

What does the second largest wage bill and investments have to do with Ole? That is a demonstration of other peoples poor performance above him.
 
Thanx. I would guess the likes of you, or “we” as you call yourself - would shy any form of fotball debate.

I wish, I can't help myself even when there is no debate. Like when a poster earlier tried arguing that Ole hasn't made us miles worse despite every single statistic showing that yes, it's not debatable. I'm a complete Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime though, can't help myself when dealing with that level of delusion.

This season has made me think I chose the wrong career, I start thinking that maybe psychology was the way together, and then I realise I'd just end up throwing heavy objects from my desk at the deluded ones who can't be helped.