Are any of us demanding Ole to challenge for the title this season? We have the worst point tally and results in about 30 years. That's really really bad.
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Are any of us demanding Ole to challenge for the title this season? We have the worst point tally and results in about 30 years. That's really really bad.
Yep. I'm not putting loads of angry energy into this anymore, the writing is on the wall. I've been sure for awhile this was the case anyway, not sure he'll even make it to the summer now though, not with the injuries and toxic atmosphere.
He didn't win a thing at Molde in the last 5 years and their new manager is about to win the league with the same squad
In other words, he isn't very good
Neither would have appointed Ole, don't be stupid
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Was our team better than burnley’s Starting line up last night? Is Dyche a better manager than Ole then?
Is the Sheffield United manager better manager than ole?
I ask as I think ole’s team on paper are better than both but they seem to be outperforming him. How come?
Was our team better than burnley’s Starting line up last night? Is Dyche a better manager than Ole then?
Is the Sheffield United manager better manager than ole?
I ask as I think ole’s team on paper are better than both but they seem to be outperforming him. How come?
It’s not completely hypothetical.
Pochettino lost the dressing room at Spurs, Mourinho is losing them now.
Allegri and Ancelotti are like the big Sam’s of European football
would we have appointed Arteta or Lampard?
Don’t be aggressive.
How has Ole proven that he can spot a player? Because of Maguire, Wan bissaka and James? Maguire is the most expensive defender ever but is shadow of players like VVD and Wan Bissaka is solid but nothing special. James is not special either but at least fairly cheapish.
I'm a little worried that this obviously being SAF's idea an all that SAF has taken on some background DoF role. There is zero doubt that bringing Ole and Phelan back has SAF's hands all over it and I think he'll fight tooth and nail to get them another season.
Truly terrifying stuff.
Stupid question. What top club would have hired Guardiola pre-Barca? What top club would have hired Lampard? He was obviously hired because he’s an ex-player who knows the club and appreciates our history. It happens quite frequently, get over it.
Dyche and managers like him shithouse teams like ours every time they play. It’s just a way of maximising squads.
They scored the two chances they had. One a half chance. Shit fecking happens. It’s been a nightmare few years for us in that regard I would say.
How am I being aggressive? Neither Arteta or Lampard have relegated a club and were on the way to doing it again before being sacked. There's the difference.
I presume since you didn't answer my other question that you, like most sane people, would never have considered Ole as a replacement for Mourinho.
I see no point in appointing a new manager whist the current regime is still in place, put your energies into trying to get rid of these parasites, then we can think about a new manager, and another point is, would any of these managers WANT to come to a club that is palpably toxic. I like Ole, and I want him to carry on and be successful, but if in due course he is found wanting, then we will have to think about a new man. He has managed to get rid of some of the so called deadwood, and still has more to go. He has had to manage probably one of the weakest post Fergie squads we have had, with his 'star' player missing for most of the season, has improved Fred, McTominay and Rashford and brought Greenwood and Williams into the first team arena, so we have started the job.
'Knows the club and appreciates our history'. So does the tea lady. Sums it up really.
Oh ffs. This again. Do you know what else Klopp had done before being appointed Liverpool manager?
I’m gonna count Williams and Greenwood too. Would any other manager have given them the game time they have had?
It’s all hypotheticals I know but I’m trying to see positives
Mourinho sure as hell didn’t, and he failed spectacularly, with a lot more money.
Yes but he was given another chance at Dortmund. A relegation on your C.V doesn’t automatically make you a shit manager
Did Guardiola relegate a side, then get sacked for looking like he was gonna send them to 2 relegations in a row despite bringing in a shit tonne of players? News to me.
Ole coming in directly from the reserves or even Molde part 1 to replace SAF, I could have understood that risk being taken but on a very short leash if he looked incapable. But Ole after 10 years as a manager? feck me no.
Past it manager, what is your point? Should we hire the tea lady then?
Please, you’d be moaning all the same if he had come straight from the reserves.
He won trophies and finished second. If that is a spectacular failure, I dread to think how you'd describe Ole guiding us to our worst season in 30 years.
Compared to Ole Mourinho was a shining light in a sea of shit. If right now you offered me a EL league and a 2nd place finish this season and next with the same money, i'd bite your bloody hand off.
Hindsights a wonderful thing ain’t it
Yeah, if he had a 37% win rate in February of his first full PL season I would, of fecking course.
I said at the time when we hired him he was past it... also his style was never suited to United
Guess what though . Ole isn't past it, he was never it in the first place 12 losses and 11 wins since he became permanent manager.
Good rid of deadwood in it.... that's a trophy it's itself to these lot.
Woop de doo. The second place, never even remotely challenged trophy. The fans were out celebrating on the streets that year.
Can we please stop comparing the two? Ole is not Klopp. They have nothing in common.
Ole is just an admirer of Klopp's high-intensity football. That's it.
Please describe Ole's reign so far.
Wowzers man, this post defies all logic. Ole is doing what exactly then?
You'd bite my fecking hand off too if I told you Ole would be 2nd in the next 3 years, don't fecking lie.
If we are using this logic to determine a better manager, it is pathetic because you could easily put this forward:
Is Ole a better manager than Pep cause we beat them away?
Is Ole better manager than Tuchel?
Is Ole better manager than Jose?
Is Ole better manager than Lampard?
Any given team can perform on a given day, but the Manutd squad at the moment is poor, making it difficult for anyone to get the best out of them.
Do you think Ole tells the players not to fluff chances when we get them?
Everytime Phil Jones plays, we concede loads of goals. Maguire is having to play when he is not 100% fit.
Matic and Fred are asked to play 2 times a week.
Dan James who is a squad player is asked to be our number 1 winger.
Lingard and James are our creative number 10's
We could easily play like Burnley if we wanted to and we would get draws and sneak wins, defend for 80 mins.
You'd want to keep a player like Lukaku for 1 year after the season he's had?
It defies logic to say that Mourinho’s reign wasn’t successful? Ok then
Shit club, shit team.
It's all purely hypothetical. It was LVG who promoted Rashford and Mourinho who promoted Scott. Fergie wouldn't play Pobga ahead of John O'shea and Cleverly in midfield. Pobga fecked off to Juventus and walked straight into their first team and became the hottest young midfielder in the world.
With a shit manager.
How is it that its mostly Ole supporters that use childish slangs like "Woop de doo, good not give a monkeys, boo hoo etc " especially when they dont have a good response
Exactly.
This is an amusing tactic. In order to defend Ole, an inept manager who has led us to our worst season in 30 years, broken all kinds of the records that we don't want to break, and made the team and his signings worse, he is attempting to disparage a vastly superior manager who actually won trophies with us and led us to our highest league position since SAF.
Now, I realise the Ole in crowd aren't the biggest fans of logic, but this is a bold strategy, even with that in mind.