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No. We don't give covidiots special treatment because they are rich and famous.
We all sacrificed to keep the country safe. Kids stranded overseas, unable to travel interstate to see family and friends, even if terminally ill etc, so feck a covidiot getting special treatment.
And he had covid ages ago which a) means he won't have meaningful levels of antibodies snd b) it isn't a valid reason to be allowed in without vaccination.
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It's also hard enough to get a test here as it is. Him being tested everyday is just more privilege that the public wouldn't be happy with. He could have always just taken the perfectly safe vaccine if playing was that important to him.
feck off Nigel.
Which Australia should be commended for. People should not get special privileges because of their fame.
I cannot fathom the dismay that some of the people there who have suffered during the last two years must feel when someone as obstinate and obtuse as Djokovic seems to be gets special treatment because he's an important tennis player.
read the 479 posts prior to this one and maybe you might grasp it.
Per reports Novak's documents were verified by medial panels instituted by AO. Post that het got visa from Australian authorities too who could/should have verified the documents again. No Visa (other than countries which give on-arrival visa) is given on the assumption that additional documents will be presented while entering the country. Yes, you may be required to produce all documents/forms that were used while granting the visa in the first place but re-litigating that visa on the same documents is very rarely done if ever. In this case it is obvious it was done due to the backlash since in digital age there is no different in reviewing digital or actual copies of any document.
Novak should not be allowed to enter Oz without vaccination if those are the rules. I would not even given him any exemption. But to say only he is to blame here is ignoring the culpability of Oz authorities who have played bait and switch here. I do fault him now for trying to force his stay via appeal but it is almost certain that is the case because other players with similar exemption got through so let's wait for court decision for confirmation on the same.
Which has nothing to do with border entry. It would have been smarter of AO to align the two but they didn't. Everyone entering the country has to ensure they are entitled to do so. Djokovic didn't.
Not really interested in circling in debates so I will leave this as my final take. It is norm to validate all such documents while granting visa. Djoko went a step beyond and got his documents approved by AO. Not sure what more he could have done here. He took the AO go-ahead for granted which like you said was incorrect but he had no way of knowing that Oz authorities were not in agreement with each other. His social media post that emphasised the exemption was beyond stupid though.
No it isn't. Few if any countries require proof of vaccination at visa application. You are however told you will need to supply proof of vaccination or valid reasons for an exemption on entry. My son recently flew US to Sydney and back again. In both directions the proof had to be provided on entry. The airlines asked for proof to avoid having to pay for deportation but this is a commercial decision and not a legal requirement. Djokovic flew on his own jet so didn't get airline advice. I'd assume a multimillionaire who routinely flys the world could afford decent advice. Apparently not.
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It would make Farage have an aneurysm when he finds out that it was a conservative government that rejected novaxx
We wish he would. Just struggle to find a country that would have him
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I don’t think it is. I’ve had them checked on arrival to countries.
“Blame initially fell on the Victorian state government which granted the exemption, believed to be on the basis that Djokovic had a past Covid infection. But it has since emerged that this only allowed him to play in the Open, not cross the border.
Craig Tiley, boss of Tennis Australia, is now under pressure to explain himself after it emerged the Department of Health sent him two letters back in November stating that a previous Covid infection would not be sufficient to enter the country.
Jacinta Allan, acting Victorian premier, said on Friday that Tiley had not informed the state of those warnings and added that enforcing border rules is a matter for the federal government - not individual states.”
Assuming that Djokovic reason was recent Covid, the letters that ATAGI sent Tiley in November are clear… that doesn’t count. Sure it’ll come out in due course but no idea why Tiley said it’d be fine… thereafter, Border Control just seem to have done their job. If I was a multi, multi millionaire, I’d expect ”team” to check this type of thing and not assume. Maybe Google it, call an Aus Dept, check with a company who specialise in international travel requirements.
You have to wonder how Tiley comes out of this unscathed if all the “facts” released are accurate.
Eeek Kyrgios calling people out on class and decorum.
I agree that Tiley is somewhat culpable if the above comes out in the wash.
But the bottom line here is a Tennis boss is not the authority on Federal rules to enter a country. Djokovic should have thoroughly done his own homework on that. And I really mean him himself. Not his "team". We are all individually responsible for that. At the very least the thought should have been "Ok this is what the Tennis guys are saying, lets double check it with the government rules".
To fly to Australia without doing that and assuming he is just going to waltz into the country is complete arrogance, ignorance and stupidity all in one.
Have absolutely no sympathy for that Covidiot Novax Djokovic. 
When you have spunkbubbles like Farage fighting your corner, you know you done fecked up.
When you have spunkbubbles like Farage fighting your corner, you know you done fecked up.
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They absolutely should be disrespected. We should adhere to them if we're visiting, but why in earth would you respect them? Should I suddenly believe women should be subordinate every time I fly through the Middle East, because it'd be disrespectful not to?
He will be getting sacked.
Kyrgios has more class then our fed government tbh
He is free to go back to his private jet and leave any time he likes. And I'm not sure his mother is the best source. The hotel may not provide all the gold he can eat but I'm fairly sure we have all stayed in worse.
Low bar to be fair.
The only reason he is still there is because he wants to fight this, isn't it?
Fairly sure I’ve lived in worse.
I wonder if this thread will get as many pages for the rest of the tournament as it has for the last 48 hours?
It is ironic that Right wing anti vaxxers will be protesting freedom out of a hotel where refugees who they hate will be staying at.
We should be laughing at him putting up with not great conditions for a couple of days, but not sure we should be saying that they are fine to live in. They're supposed to be pretty poor conditions for the asylum seekers that spend years living in them I thought (hence the various coverage of them over the years and the protesting of conditions by activists?)
There has been protests outside that hotel about the treatment of asylum seekers there for a while now.
Australia does not treat them well.
Maybe. There is also the suggestion that he wants to avoid being formally denied entry/deported as it might otherwise get him a 3 year entry ban to Australia and/or cause hassle getting in to other countries.
No idea if this is true
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They don't don't do irony
The three year ban is only on a case by case basis right? I don't think they'd implement it for Novak unless he lied to get entry.
No idea on her or the other cases but I do wonder if TA didn't say a positive test in the last 6 months would be an exemption, maybe some of these players/officials would have been vaccinated instead.
I don't believe it is automatic. Otherwise I have no idea if this report has any basis in fact.
I am waiting to see the lard arse Kelly show up again in Melbourne.
Given that it's been almost a year since vaccines were available, I don't think Djokovic and these other sportsmen and women had any intention of getting vaccinated.
Possibly hesitant rather than anti-vax though. Some won't take the vaccine until they feel they need to for work purposes, I don't think Djokovic falls into this camp but possibly other may do. That being said, a lot of players recently got vaccinated in order to play in Australia, so clearly enough of an incentive for many to get the vaccine rather than try to get an exemption.
Just when you think nobody can be a bigger cnut than #scottyfrommarketing
Agreed.
Are you saying the general public in Australia is not able to get tested every day?
And no, the vaccine is not perfectly safe. Ask Chardy.
And yes, for what it’s worth, I am double vaccinated.
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