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I'm stunned Berdych is going to lose this in 3. I know it's an overused term but he's genuinely the biggest bottler there is against the big guys. He just never turns up.

What a prediction this turned out to be. :lol:
 
Roger got so lucky!:lol:

He was so careless today! Had me shouting at the screen:D
 
Federer hasn't been great this tournament. If Kyrgios goes through then I can see him causing Federer big problems.
 
Ugly win that, Federer's got to be looking forward to a couple of weeks off. The less said about Berdych the better... Although he did play well for most of sets 2 and 3 tbf.
 
Federer can have a shocker of a game and still win matches because of that serve of his. It's the biggest difference between him and Nadal/Djoko/Murray for me. Neither of them can get the free points on such moment like he can.
 
Think Fed is tired...

Would have been disappointed if he lost to Berdych who is the biggest bottler on the men's tour sadly.
 
Federer hasn't been great this tournament. If Kyrgios goes through then I can see him causing Federer big problems.
I agree Kyrgios would cause him problems. Just hasn't been sharp this tournament.
Were he not a great champion, I reckon he'd have been dumped out of this tournament already.
 
I agree Kyrgios would cause him problems. Just hasn't been sharp this tournament.
Were he not a great champion, I reckon he'd have been dumped out of this tournament already.
Del Po apart, Fed hasn't really played anyone of note all tournament so I'd have been stunned if he'd lost before now.
 
I think Kei runs Berdych close :lol:
Kei has his moments for sure:D But nobody beats Thomas the bird man Berdych!

To be fair, Kei's body is what let's him down. A bit prone to injuries is our Kei..
 
Berdych doesn't only bottle it against the top players. He played against Nishioka recently, at Indian Wells I think, won the first set comfortably and was leading by 5-2 (2 breaks up) in the second set, but still managed to lose the game.

That's the biggest bottle job I can remember to be honest.
 
Federer can have a shocker of a game and still win matches because of that serve of his. It's the biggest difference between him and Nadal/Djoko/Murray for me. Neither of them can get the free points on such moment like he can.
The court doesn't suit him well IMO. His shots are not penetrating the same way Berdych ones are. When Berdych picked up the pace it troubled Fed a lot. Think both Zverev and Kyrgios will give him problems. Nadal/Fognini not so.
 
Today was another example of why I dislike crowds during Federer matches. They're cheering first and double faults on MP down :lol:
 
Del Po apart, Fed hasn't really played anyone of note all tournament so I'd have been stunned if he'd lost before now.
The margins are fine though, and you can get beat when you least expect it.
 
Berdych's record against the big boys looks pretty decent on paper up until about 2013.

Why's he gone completely to shit since then against them?
 
Berdych doesn't only bottle it against the top players. He played against Nishioka recently, at Indian Wells I think, won the first set comfortably and was leading by 5-2 (2 breaks up) in the second set, but still managed to lose the game.

That's the biggest bottle job I can remember to be honest.

Nothing about Berdych surprises me really. Him actually taking it to a 3rd set TB was the only shock of the night.
The court doesn't suit him well IMO. His shots are not penetrating the same way Berdych ones are. When Berdych picked up the pace it troubled Fed a lot. Think both Zverev and Kyrgios will give him problems. Nadal/Fognini not so.

Court might not suit him but it's still a hard court and he's still going to beat most players apart from Murray/Djoko. I think his semi might be a bit diffuclt, the final should be easy.
 
Today was another example of why I dislike crowds during Federer matches. They're cheering first and double faults on MP down :lol:
It's the charisma of our Rogie:drool: Fans lose their perspective when he's in the house:D
 
I agree Kyrgios would cause him problems. Just hasn't been sharp this tournament.
Were he not a great champion, I reckon he'd have been dumped out of this tournament already.

I don't see Zverev causing him problems because I think he will bottle it just like against Nadal last year in a big event.

Where as Kyrgios doesn't have a problem beating big players. It's his attitude that always lets him down.
 
Berdych's record against the big boys looks pretty decent on paper up until about 2013.

Why's he gone completely to shit since then against them?
He just doesn't seem to have any confidence in himself in these games. I was at the Federer Berdych game at the London WTF and he was just so so shocking it was embarrassing to watch.
 
It's the charisma of our Rogie:drool: Fans lose their perspective when he's in the house:D
Not being a Federer fan, I find it really annoying. Cheer on your man that's fine but cheering an opponents errors and double faults is in poor taste.
 
Anyway, couple more days and finally this hardcourt season ends. Can't wait for the clay where the aces don't rain down on you :lol:
 
Berdych's record against the big boys looks pretty decent on paper up until about 2013.

Why's he gone completely to shit since then against them?
He hasn't evolved....
For a long time he kept doing the same things and expecting it to work. As you get older you need to keep adding other elements to your game. He's been trying to change things and personnel a bit lately, however, his biggest problem is that he's never been mentally tough. It's quite difficult to change this so late in his career I think.
 
Not being a Federer fan, I find it really annoying. Cheer on your man that's fine but cheering an opponents errors and double faults is in poor taste.
Yeah it is in poor taste, and I wouldn't do it even though I love Roger above all other sport stars. However, I kind of understand the crowd's anxiety wanting him to win, it's his age, and the fact he will retire sooner rather than later - people just want him to win.
 
I don't see Zverev causing him problems because I think he will bottle it just like against Nadal last year in a big event.

Where as Kyrgios doesn't have a problem beating big players. It's his attitude that always lets him down.

Sounds a lot like Federer 15 years ago :)
 
Yeah it is in poor taste, and I wouldn't do it even though I love Roger above all other sport stars. However, I kind of understand the crowd's anxiety wanting him to win, it's his age, and the fact he will retire sooner rather than later - people just want him to win.

I'd believe that if it wasn't for the fact that it's been happening for years now. I have no issues supporting your favorite but to go to the extent of cheering every possible fault just makes you want to watch on mute. This is pretty much the case in all Federer games. In between the commentators wanking over him and the fans cheering every fault, it becomes slightly irritating viewing if you're not a Federer fan (yes not everyone is!)
What's wrong with some nice aces?

Or is there another reason you're looking forward to clay season?

coughNadalcough

Yes because he has a better chance there! The one and only Federer quality I wish Nadal had was the serve.
 
You called it pretty much dead on.

Not only that he'd lose the tie break but he'd do it in bottling fashion.
He's genuinely the type of guy who could hit 30 aces in a match and then not hit one even if he had 2 serves to win a match.
 
I'd believe that if it wasn't for the fact that it's been happening for years now. I have no issues supporting your favorite but to go to the extent of cheering every possible fault just makes you want to watch on mute. This is pretty much the case in all Federer games. In between the commentators wanking over him and the fans cheering every fault, it becomes slightly irritating viewing if you're not a Federer fan (yes not everyone is!)

I remember the French cheering him against Tsonga in Paris which says something :lol:

You gotta get used to it(I'm sure you have till now) Federer is universally loved everywhere and especially in his comeback and age most would wank over him knowing it's his swan song.

Here's the interview at Bercy after the game:
 
The French always seemed pretty hostile to Nadal for some reason.

Now that he's lost that Superman aura on clay I wonder if he'll be cheered more.
 
On another younger player, what do you guys think or Thiem? I've got mixed views of him, think I've said it in here, but think he may just become that Berdych, Nishikori type player. God consistent players, but overplays himself and bottles the big moments, doesn't come across as a winner to me
 
The French always seemed pretty hostile to Nadal for some reason.

Now that he's lost that Superman aura on clay I wonder if he'll be cheered more.
The French fans can be dicks. Can't remember who it was, but one of the ladies was playing a match, clearly injured. She eventually retired after trying to battle through it and they booed her off.

On Nadal, think they probably didn't like him as he denied Roger there so many times, but also the way he dominated RG.
 
I remember the French cheering him against Tsonga in Paris which says something :lol:

You gotta get used to it(I'm sure you have till now) Federer is universally loved everywhere and especially in his comeback and age most would wank over him knowing it's his swan song.

Here's the interview at Bercy after the game:


Yeah I remember saying this many times that the French would cheer Fed against their own as well. I genuinely wouldn't be shocked to see Fed being supported over Murray at Wimbeldon. It's the Apple sort of fanboyism and it's really annoying if you're not part of that bunch but yes I'm used to it now and do usually watch his games on mute. But again, this age and swansong excuse isn't one I believe because it's something that has always happened. When I watch a match, I want the commentator to be neutral and he's supposed to be that way but if you're so all out in favor of one guy winning, it gets a nauseating tbh. Anyway, I guess just another year or two of this to go.
The French always seemed pretty hostile to Nadal for some reason.

Now that he's lost that Superman aura on clay I wonder if he'll be cheered more.

I think they're just pissed that he always wins there and also the fact that he's always decimated their favorite Fed out there. RG easily has the worst crowd in all of tennis.
 
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