Not arsed at all about the #1 really. Don't want to be too greedy after the season he's had but, WTF would be a great way to cap the year.
i always read it "what the feck" in my mind.
Not arsed at all about the #1 really. Don't want to be too greedy after the season he's had but, WTF would be a great way to cap the year.
That wasn't the point I was making. Nobody has a problem with him not playing.Yeah I don't think Fed at 36 has anything to apologize for. He should be listening to his body and selecting his tournaments accordingly. He's been around for 15 years so anyone who has wanted to watch him LIVE have had their chance before.
Federer isn't going to get any flack for not playing Paris like Murray did at the US Open because the situations are entirely different. Federer has just finished winning Basel and his decision to play in Paris was almost certainly depending on how deep he went. He could only make that decision once his tournament was over and it's just unfortunate that Paris starts the very next week. Murray on the other hand had weeks to announce a decision most people were expecting since Wimbledon. He pulled out of both Montreal and Cincinnati but still waited till the draw was made to announce he wasn't playing in New York. Not to mention that one tournament is a Grand Slam with the potential of a Fedal final and the other is a Masters tournament toward the back end of the ATP season. I can understand why Murray might have wanted to wait as long as possible to see if he could play but it seems obvious he was nowhere near ready and should have just saved everybody from what ended up being a bit of a crap tournament.That wasn't the point I was making. Nobody has a problem with him not playing.
That's better. I agree.Federer isn't going to get any flack for not playing Paris like Murray did at the US Open because the situations are entirely different. Federer has just finished winning Basel and his decision to play in Paris was almost certainly depending on how deep he went. He could only make that decision once his tournament was over and it's just unfortunate that Paris starts the very next week. Murray on the other hand had weeks to announce a decision most people were expecting since Wimbledon. He pulled out of both Montreal and Cincinnati but still waited till the draw was made to announce he wasn't playing in New York. Not to mention that one tournament is a Grand Slam with the potential of a Fedal final and the other is a Masters tournament toward the back end of the ATP season. I can understand why Murray might have wanted to wait as long as possible to see if he could play but it seems obvious he was nowhere near ready and should have just saved everybody from what ended up being a bit of a crap tournament.
I agree Murray could have pulled out earlier but he didn't owe the fans anything and certainly not a Fedal final. The world and commentators might go gaga about Fedal but I doubt any of the players are arsed and will make their decisions thinking of that. He also owes no one a good tournament. It's not his fault the mens field is weak, rubbish and full of injured players right now.Federer isn't going to get any flack for not playing Paris like Murray did at the US Open because the situations are entirely different. Federer has just finished winning Basel and his decision to play in Paris was almost certainly depending on how deep he went. He could only make that decision once his tournament was over and it's just unfortunate that Paris starts the very next week. Murray on the other hand had weeks to announce a decision most people were expecting since Wimbledon. He pulled out of both Montreal and Cincinnati but still waited till the draw was made to announce he wasn't playing in New York. Not to mention that one tournament is a Grand Slam with the potential of a Fedal final and the other is a Masters tournament toward the back end of the ATP season. I can understand why Murray might have wanted to wait as long as possible to see if he could play but it seems obvious he was nowhere near ready and should have just saved everybody from what ended up being a bit of a crap tournament.
I'm sure its nice to be #1 but I doubt either Federer or Nadal really care about it after the season they've had. They're both going to lose shit loads of points next season anyway so its a good chance they won't even be #1 and 2 for too long.Erm in the last 10-15 years the best player of the year has usually ended up being number 1 in the men's game unlike the women's game.
So being number 1 reflects that dominance. You telling me Murray didn't care about being number 1? You telling me Nadal and Fed who were like 5th and 7th at the start of this year don't care?
Federer said he knew it was going to be hard once Nadal won the US open. He has made a wise decision not to play in Paris.
I'm sure its nice to be #1 but I doubt either Federer or Nadal really care about it after the season they've had. They're both going to lose shit loads of points next season anyway so its a good chance they won't even be #1 and 2 for too long.
I think Nadal really cares aboutI'm sure its nice to be #1 but I doubt either Federer or Nadal really care about it after the season they've had. They're both going to lose shit loads of points next season anyway so its a good chance they won't even be #1 and 2 for too long.
That's the way the rankings work though. If Nadal blitzes his way through the clay season, he "gains" zero points. He'd have just successfully defended his points from last year. He and Fed are going to have to win everything yet again to just keep defending their points. Djoko and Murray will have virtually no points to defend so they can only really go a long way up.Nadal will maintain it. Don't see anybody stopping him on clay so he'd get those points.
It all depends on Djokovic, who will probably start the year outside top 10. But at worst Nadal could drop to 3. I mean look at Murray and how long he was number 1 this year for.
More relevant in this thread but we finally getting a new tennis game.
Shapovalov loses yet again, this time to a Benneteau playing his final tournament. Wonderkid Shapo is 1-4 since the USO. The future is bright.
More relevant in this thread but we finally getting a new tennis game.
Shapovalov loses yet again, this time to a Benneteau playing his final tournament. Wonderkid Shapo is 1-4 since the USO. The future is bright.
He's 18 and doing just fine. Federer was ranked 64th at his age and hadn't beaten the #1 player in the world. This kid has.
Yes as he didn't play in Paris last year.Does Nadal gets 45 points no matter if he wins or losses today's match?
So, he's points winner of the year no matter what already?
10,465 Nadal (+45 today = 10,510)
9,005 Federer
1,505 difference, 1,500 possible.
Strictly speaking Nadal wasn't Nr.1 at the time.
Yes as he didn't play in Paris last year.
Nadal also the oldest ATP year end no.1 at 31.q
Zverev and Thiem out early, unsurprisingly. The former has looked tired ever since the US tour in the summer and Thiem is useless on a fast court.
Meanwhile, the stars are aligning for Del Potro with pretty much everybody around him losing in the first round, he's somehow just a win away from qualifying for London. Probably against Dimitrov who doesn't have much to play for in Paris and will be saving himself.
Where do u read this about Del Potro , it can't be true ?Zverev and Thiem out early, unsurprisingly. The former has looked tired ever since the US tour in the summer and Thiem is useless on a fast court.
Meanwhile, the stars are aligning for Del Potro with pretty much everybody around him losing in the first round, he's somehow just a win away from qualifying for London. Probably against Dimitrov who doesn't have much to play for in Paris and will be saving himself.
Well, right there. One more win takes him above Busta, who is currently the 8th for London. Technically Pouille and Bautista Agut can surpass him but they have to win the tournament which is unlikely.
Isner and Bautista can go also above him as far as I seeWell, right there. One more win takes him above Busta, who is currently the 8th for London. Technically Pouille and Bautista Agut can surpass him but they have to win the tournament which is unlikely.
Edit: Pouille can do it with just a final, actually, which doesn't seem that far-fetched.
If he gets the one win it will be over Isner, so that rules him out. Bautista can theoretically overtake him but only if he wins the tournament, as I said, which I can't see happening. In the final he'll have to either beat Nadal, which isn't happening, or Del Potro. But then if the latter gets to the final he'll be ahead of Agut even if he loses, so that's a dead end too.Isner and Bautista can go also above him as far as I see
From the highlights I saw of him vs Chung in the previous round, he didn't look great there either.Nadal leading 3-1 in the third against Cuevas. Got his right knee taped after losing the 2nd and he's not playing inspired tennis right now.
Now Jack Sock can make it if he wins the tourney and Del loses the nextIf he gets the one win it will be over Isner, so that rules him out. Bautista can theoretically overtake him but only if he wins the tournament, as I said, which I can't see happening. In the final he'll have to either beat Nadal, which isn't happening, or Del Potro. But then if the latter gets to the final he'll be ahead of Agut even if he loses, so that's a dead end too.
Actually, Pouille needs to win it too. There's the same problem there - if he gets to the final he'll either play against Nadal (If he's going to lose in this tournament it's not going to be the final) or Del Potro. If the latter is in the final though, he'd qualify regardless of the result.
Del Potro is 95% qualified if he beats Isner.
Well, yeah. The whole thing started when I said he's a win away from London though. If he gets it Sock is out, as is practically everyone else. If he doesn't win the next one, he'll finish behind Busta anyway, regardless of what Sock does.Now Jack Sock can make it if he wins the tourney and Del loses the next
He's been struggling since that final vs Fed. Movement was so poor today also and he struggled with serve and double faults too.Nadal leading 3-1 in the third against Cuevas. Got his right knee taped after losing the 2nd and he's not playing inspired tennis right now.