BarstoolProphet
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Tesla doesn't do advertising like others, so doubt they would be interested. But the logo is beautiful and the main car (Model S) is brilliant.
Yeah, this is what I was going to say, TeamViewer have been looking for a way out of the deal, I doubt that this is anything to do with potential owners.Haven’t the EPL put a block on ownership linked sponsorships to stop Newcastle inflating their revenue? Team viewer have been unhappy for months - this hasn’t come out of the blue - and we signed the deal during the pandemic when the financial world was very different so likely can get more anyway.
Everyone knows who Amazon are, why would they want to be on our shirts?Amazon anyone?
The TeamViewer talks only started when a board member questioned the reasoning behind the deal, stating it was “appalling judgement” for a company that only makes $50m in revenue a year. They’ve been looking for a way out of this because they can’t afford to pay it, so it’s within United’s best interests to let them go and find someone that can pay them.Yeah, this is what I was going to say, TeamViewer have been looking for a way out of the deal, I doubt that this is anything to do with potential owners.
Everyone knows who Amazon are, why would they want to be on our shirts?
It’s a buy back, so they paid us for so many years, we’re going to pay them back ‘some’ money in order to end it early and get someone else in for more money. Whatever we pay them will be less than what they paid us and it’s probably in the small print as an option.I am so confused with the use of the word "buyout".
Why do we need to pay them when they were the ones who wanted out?
Rivian?They could stick one of their subsidiaries on the shirt.
Everyone knows who Amazon are, why would they want to be on our shirts?
Everyone knows who Amazon are, why would they want to be on our shirts?
I know it’s what happened with TeamViewer, but generally shirt sponsorships aren’t for the purposes of introducing people to the existence of a company they’d never heard of before. Just that constant presence on tv, media etc. is what they’re looking for. Ubiquity across sports media makes sense for anyone with the money to pay it.Everyone knows who Amazon are, why would they want to be on our shirts?
They do? I didn’t know that. Maybe Amazon don’t do well in Italy?I was joking taking into account that they've been linked as being prospective new buyers.
However, well known organisations do sponsor the shirts of football teams.
Ps, why do Amazon sponsor Napoli's sleeve?
I have a feeling this would only apply if the money coming into the club was reported as "sponsorship revenue", or something to that effect.Haven’t the EPL put a block on ownership linked sponsorships to stop Newcastle inflating their revenue?
To be clear, I don't think for a second that Amazon are going to buy United. If they were to do so, though, I doubt it'd be Amazon that went on the shirt - they'd probably go with one of their subsidiaries. (They might use the shirt to advertise Prime, for example)They do? I didn’t know that. Maybe Amazon don’t do well in Italy?
I thought it was a joke to be fair but they have a pretty good strong hold in the UK, or at least I thought they did.
To be clear, I don't think for a second that Amazon are going to buy United. If they were to do so, though, I doubt it'd be Amazon that went on the shirt - they'd probably go with one of their subsidiaries. (They might use the shirt to advertise Prime, for example)
I think United could give them exposure in the Asian market, where the potential is as yet untapped for Amazon.I was joking taking into account that they've been linked as being prospective new buyers.
However, well known organisations do sponsor the shirts of football teams.
Ps, why do Amazon sponsor Napoli's sleeve?
I think United could give them exposure in the Asian market, where the potential is as yet untapped for Amazon.
Ah apologies. Out of curiosity though, would the fact that owners can't sponsor their own club prevent them from just shoving their logo on the shirt without paying any money to do so? If a company were to buy United, they'd also be acquiring this option to buy the rights to the shirt sponsorship from TeamViewer. I'd just wonder what would be the legal complication with said company taking up that option and then saying "Well, we own these rights so rather than sell them off anywhere we'll just put our own brand on the shirt". I'm probably being a complete dumbass but I don't see how that would be inflating the club's revenue?Your owners cannot sponsor you. However, we all know there's way around this, thanks to City and Newcastle.
But the great thing for us, we could actually get more money than anyone for these sponsorships and no one wiuld batter an eyelid, as we've constantly broken sponsorship records.
However, announcements like today, keep emphasising the fact to me, that the sale of the club is quite far down the line.
I completely agree.Yeah, that would be one reason.
But the more I think about it, the less I believe it will be Amazon. As I said above, new owners can't "sponsor" themselves.
For instance, I couldn't see Jeff Bezos buying us and then being sponsored by Amazon, as he still has shares in Amazon.
New owners and new sponsorship would have to cleverly thought through, which I have no doubts has happened.
Ah apologies. Out of curiosity though, would the fact that owners can't sponsor their own club prevent them from just shoving their logo on the shirt without paying any money to do so? If a company were to buy United, they'd also be acquiring this option to buy the rights to the shirt sponsorship from TeamViewer. I'd just wonder what would be the legal complication with said company taking up that option and then saying "Well, we own these rights so rather than sell them off anywhere we'll just put our own brand on the shirt". I'm probably being a complete dumbass but I don't see how that would be inflating the club's revenue?
As TeamViewer are a tech company and we've negotiated to end the deal early, could this be an indication we're being taken over by another tech company?
As TeamViewer are a tech company and we've negotiated to end the deal early, could this be an indication we're being taken over by another tech company?
I genuinely think it’s simply a case of them wanting out due to their finances and the absurdity of spending such a high proportion of their revenue on sport sponsorships combined with us knowing we can get more money now than a deal negotiated during the pandemic. Mutually beneficial to both parties.As TeamViewer are a tech company and we've negotiated to end the deal early, could this be an indication we're being taken over by another tech company?
Exactly this. And their logo is pretty shit anyway, I want a sponsor that is one width and one height, and one colour. The team viewer box being bigger than the text was annoying but 1000 times better than Chevrolet.Couldn't give a shit about them beyond the fact their logo looks better on a shirt than chevrolet
I genuinely think it’s simply a case of them wanting out due to their finances and the absurdity of spending such a high proportion of their revenue on sport sponsorships combined with us knowing we can get more money now than a deal negotiated during the pandemic. Mutually beneficial to both parties.
Hard to tell, it's not enough information on its own.As TeamViewer are a tech company and we've negotiated to end the deal early, could this be an indication we're being taken over by another tech company?
Both were absurd deals for different reasons. Team Viewer are also regretting sponsoring Mercedes too - their revenues aren’t big enough to spend 250m over 5 years sponsoring a football team. Properly bonkers stuff.That's our last two sponsors regretting sponsoring us for so much
Tezos are pulling out from Red Bull F1 too. So the training ground kits will probably be next.Both were absurd deals for different reasons. Team Viewer are also regretting sponsoring Mercedes too - their revenues aren’t big enough to spend 250m over 5 years sponsoring a football team. Properly bonkers stuff.
I'm pretty sure the possibility of terminating the sponsorship has been in play before any indication the club was for sale.As TeamViewer are a tech company and we've negotiated to end the deal early, could this be an indication we're being taken over by another tech company?
As TeamViewer are a tech company and we've negotiated to end the deal early, could this be an indication we're being taken over by another tech company?
I'd be surprised if they forked out the whole sum in a single payment right at the start. Surely they'd agree x no of years at £ym per year and then pay annually. I doubt a sponsor change would come mid season, although it has happened elsewhere, so it would be interesting to know exactly what the buy back actually is.It’s a buy back, so they paid us for so many years, we’re going to pay them back ‘some’ money in order to end it early and get someone else in for more money. Whatever we pay them will be less than what they paid us and it’s probably in the small print as an option.
The amount of money you've spent on that website is enough to buy the club, sponsoring it will be a child's play.JLingz will be our new sponsor
Probably already been mentioned but TeamViewer investors have problems with the United deal and formula 1 deal. So I think it really is a case of it being “it’s me not you”I'm pretty sure the possibility of terminating the sponsorship has been in play before any indication the club was for sale.