Yeah by great songwriter, I meant great lyricist. Which she is.
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Would love to read what some would consider her top three best songs for Lyrics, if someone could post them?
Edit: As in post the actual lyrics, cheers.
Edit: As in post the actual lyrics, cheers.
Can you post some of her lyrics which you think are great?
I'm not sure that boomers are renowned for their sense of humour either!To be fair, it's common knowledge Gen Z has no sense of humor.
No, they're all very easily available in the public domain. It's also a very disingenuous way of trying to discredit something.
She's not Bob Dylan, but she's a great lyricist.
This thread started off as fun but got taken over by the usual band of redcafe boomisogynists
What?
90% of the posts in this thread include samples of her lyrics.
I am pretty sure few people said she is the GOAT. Not that I mind it that much anyway, I am not that much into pop music, but it would definitely be disappointment if she is top10 greatest pop stars ever - but I am aware that she could be looking how famous she is.
Regarding criticism, I haven't said anything of that, except her not being relevant, but to be fair, I meant that in a way that I don't see her being relevant in 10-20 years as some of the stars I mentioned in my initial post. She is simply not charismatic enough, and I don't think her music is quality enough, and I don't think those texts are so memorable to last that enough.
Why's everyone going on the defensive, I was generally interested in what of hers would be considered as great as a music lover myself, haven't got time to go trawling this thread for them.
She must have some standouts, no?
There's literally a dude listing his favorite songs with the whole lyrics included all over the thread.
Can you not read? I simply asked for a top three, purely out of interest?
Are you all this sensitive? Jesus.
I just thought it might be a pretty good starting point for you? I don't get your reaction.
That slacker haven't even made it into the Top 70 yet. You won't get the good stuff that from until a few months from now.
I don't get everyone elses reaction tbh, someone compared her to Shakespeare which peaked my interest, so I asked what I thought was a fairly reasonable question which no one seems to want to answer for some reason.
Yeah, but I haven't made that comparison. So I don't really see why it would fall on me to give examples for it.
I didn't think so but it seemed a fairly innocuous question to me, touchy bunch these Swifties.Believe me, I have no interest in defending Taylor Swift!
"she's a fecking great songwriter mate"
"That's great mind letting us know a couple of her best lines"
"I don't know"
"That's great mind letting us know a couple of her best lines"
"I don't know"
I rate Exile, The Last Great American Dynasty and and The Great War as her best songs, and better than anything Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga or any of her other contemporaries have produced. Comparisons to Shakespeare are a bit much though
She's no Wu-Tang Clan...I know. To point you at some of her lyrics as you appeared interested to get to know them. I'm sorry if I offended you by not doing it in the precise way you demanded. And otherwise I just didn't see why I would have to give you examples of lyrics resembling those of Shakespeare. I didn't make that comparison. I just thought it might be of help to point you in what is the easiest way for you to find lyrics of hers, someone considers to be good. I wasn't aware of the hurt and sorrow this would cause.
For what it's worth, she made it onto Rolling Stones' list of Top 100 Greatest Songwriters of all time at #97. This was in 2015, though, so she has surely improved on the list since then.
You can read the article that compared her lyrics to literary greats here
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/musi...-a-shakespeare-professor-20230518-p5d9cn.html
It was written for the Sunday Times but was republished in the Sydney Herald, lots of lyrics in here.
What is the entire list?
Are these Taylors lyrics?
Eminem? Invalid list.
I agree, he probably should be higher.
Edit: I only just realized this might be a reference to your username.
I was just reading through the ones that @Salt Bailly kindly posted, not to start a fight but I don't see anything particularly great lyrically in them at all, but I guess it's all subjective.
It's the story of this thread.
- "Can you give us some arguments why she is so good?"
- "Yes. You are all fecking middle aged men, and also white. Probably racists too."
Well I guess Samid wins this thread in the end, he made us all discuss Taylor Swift.
Doubt I’ve said that. Adele, Taylor, Lana my top 3 singers of this century. But Adele needs to up her frequency or she’ll be dethroned.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's a good, old-fashioned academic troll.
I just wrote a post about that just today.
I believe she is good because she appears to be authentic, her songs appear to be honest and are relatable, her general persona is a rather positive one and all this makes it a lot of fun to be a fan. I for one don't believe her lyrics are that brilliant. I just think they are honest. People connect with them. So do I. And while not brilliant, I think they are well written. And it is obviously pretty cool that she writes everything herself, deeply cares about the songs she writes, has a consistent and unique style and seems grounded. And she pretty much does her own thing. She doesn't really try to replicate any trends, but is creative herself. That is shown by her two folk albums, which I like most. And that really is not something popstars normally do.
All this appeals to her fans. If it doesn't appeal to you, that's fine. But the dismissive nature of some people in here is tiring. Especially since she is not only successful, but also enjoys quite some critical acclaim.
It's a beautiful piece of click bait for the die-hards, I would love to see how many times that has been reposted online since it was written.
And that's fair.
I am not criticising her btw, just her fans whho overrate her, I like most of her songs that I've heard, I just don't think she is that special.
Music for the masses, nothing wrong with that at all, we all need our place.