Tahith Chong

soap said:
True, it's not impossible. It IS a massive jump to say the least though and you can see why people are saying it's silly.
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Yea that’s fair enough. Worth also considering that Rashford himself is also a young player showing all of the typical flaws of a young player, so the comparison isn’t exactly one with a seasoned pro. At this stage, we can’t say Rashford is a bonafide top player either, he could still go either way.

For what it’s worth, I think the comparison is a stretch too, but there are probably things Chong is better at though, despite not having played 100 games for the First team.
 
Rozay said:
Yea that’s fair enough. Worth also considering that Rashford himself is also a young player showing all of the typical flaws of a young player, so the comparison isn’t exactly one with a seasoned pro. At this stage, we can’t say Rashford is a bonafide top player either, he could still go either way.

For what it’s worth, I think the comparison is a stretch too, but there are probably things Chong is better at though, despite not having played 100 games for the First team.
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I think we should just be glad they're both at the club.
 
One of the key factors that shouldn’t be overlooked is that it seems the Dutch team won’t be useless for too long. They have a good group coming through, whereas the talent seemed to dry up for a little while after the last Golden generation.

With the likes of TFM, Kluivert, De Jong, De Ligt, Chong, Redan, Castillo etc - I’d love to see the Oranje return to relevance.
 
Ramshock said:
Whats with the interest in him last few days? Is he getting a push to the first team?
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Been playing well for the reserves, Red Cafe hype machine's taken over, now he's better than Rashford and he should be a first team player.
 
EyeInTheSky said:
He can play anywhere. Would have him central box to box or similar
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Funny that because I see O'Connor as a natural Keane type player and not a defender at all. Exciting times, there's a lot of quality knocking on the door in the next 3 years with TFM and Tuanzebe being the closest. How's Roshaun doing these days?
 
Ramshock said:
Well the club was built on giving youth a chance. Id push for him and Gomes to get more playing time.
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He's just come off a very long injury, no reason to rush anything, he's playing well just let him enjoy his football for now.
 
His highlights video is going viral. I have people asking me about him. He does look very exciting tbh but it's too early for him to play first team football especially that he did his ACL recently.
 
I have't really read the last couple of pages but i need to ask, do you guys rate him more then Gomes?

And who, if you had to pick, do you think has more potential
 
AndOr Hererra said:
I have't really read the last couple of pages but i need to ask, do you guys rate him more then Gomes?

And who, if you had to pick, do you think has more potential
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Chong has the higher ceiling in my opinion. He's been a stand out ever since his talent was showcased in Rotterdam playing for Jong Feyernoord against very good teams especially the world renowned Jong Ajax.
 
Really like his close control and agility, he can change the direction really quickly, he will be a proper winger, Rashford with his inconsistent dribbling should be more developed as striker but there's no space with Lukaku/Zlatan/ other competition and he doesnt seem to bethe natural finisher either. This is nothing against Rashford who is already 1st team regular even though was quite lucky because injuries to every one .
Rashford for instance developed great shot and is a decent crosser and has a good vision too.

Long way to go for Chong but would love to see Mourinho give him chance, because he looks exciting prospect and when clubs pay hundreds of millions pounds for a player, we have a gem in our academy who can be developed into one, given chance and good coaching. Absolutely fantastic recovery after the knee injury, chuffed for him, he could be our Sane.
 
Adnan said:
Chong has the higher ceiling in my opinion. He's been a stand out ever since his talent was showcased in Rotterdam playing for Jong Feyernoord against very good teams especially the world renowned Jong Ajax.
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He's never played for Jong Feyenoord and thus never played against Jong Ajax.
 
Adnan said:
Chong has the higher ceiling in my opinion. He's been a stand out ever since his talent was showcased in Rotterdam playing for Jong Feyernoord against very good teams especially the world renowned Jong Ajax.
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Gomes is a once in a generation talent but Chong recovered really quickly after his ACL and in latest games showed he could be close to that bracket. They are just different players, once is a supertechnical advanced midfielder/playmaker, second is a wide attacker. I rate Gomes higher but Chong is more a Mourinho player
 
Really rate this boy - hope he gets into the first team soon
 
Already salivating at the prospect of Gomez and Chong absolutely ripping it up in the 1st team, you don't always need a huge chequebook, just a club and manager reading from the same historical values hymnsheet.
 
I suppose there's no such thing as giving a youngster time once he hits youtube.
 
Can't but be excited about him but I do wonder and worry about their pathway to the first team. These lads are competing against big money signings and even Jess finally at 25 years old playing the best football of his career, scoring goals could find it difficult to get in the side.

If nothing else, these lads like Gomes should be coming on in some off the games when we've clear won.
 
Cue another 20 pages by June, inclusion on pre-season tour, comparisons with Giggs, then Best and finally, in a bizarre twist that somehow seems right, Duncan Edwards. Uninspiring loan move to mid-level Championship club spent mainly on the bench, back for 2 Carabao Cup substitute appearances, bitter recrimination and self-loathing on the Caf and a solid career in the Belgian second division.

No, he looks great. Fingers crossed.
 
izec said:
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He's just so good. Also seems like he's comfortable playing on the right which a big plus. Somebody posted on the Angel Gomes thread that it's a bit of a shame how all our most talented young players (Martial, Rashford, Gomes) seemed more comfortable on the left, when the right side of our team has a gap begging for a younster to step up and fill. Seems luck may have Broken kindly for this lad.

izec said:
Reminds me of Sane
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The hair probably contributes :angel:
 
You never know, we may end up lodged in 2nd place in the PL with 2-3 games to spare, with potential important cup ties to play....you never know.

If we do, lets stick this lad in some PL games, along with Gomes
 
TheFlagStaysDown said:
Gomes is a once in a generation talent but Chong recovered really quickly after his ACL and in latest games showed he could be close to that bracket. They are just different players, once is a supertechnical advanced midfielder/playmaker, second is a wide attacker. I rate Gomes higher but Chong is more a Mourinho player
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Chong is a more complete attacker that has more strings to his bow in comparison to Gomes imo. Chong could comfortably play in any position in the forward line and cause problems for opposition, don't think I could say the same for Gomes. This is just my opinion of course..
 
He runs just like Ricardo Kishna now. I wonder if that's a result of his knee injury too.

Btw who was the attacker with the touch at 0:30 in that spurs video?
 
Rozay said:
One of the key factors that shouldn’t be overlooked is that it seems the Dutch team won’t be useless for too long. They have a good group coming through, whereas the talent seemed to dry up for a little while after the last Golden generation.

With the likes of TFM, Kluivert, De Jong, De Ligt, Chong, Redan, Castillo etc - I’d love to see the Oranje return to relevance.
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Any idea how Redan and Castillo are doing at Chelsea? There's also Dilrosun at City but he won't get any time there. And Adekanye at Liverpool but no idea how he's doing and he's 18 now. Bergwijn and Van de Beek are also two players who were key players in the Oranje youth teams and now starting players for PSV and Ajax respectively.

Still lacking a creative midfielder in all of this though, which makes the Nouri situation tragic for sporting reasons on top of the personal aspect of it.

I think Holland is set in terms of wingers and centrebacks, and maybe centremids. In these generations there's still a lack of any clear centre strikers, attacking midfielders and goalkeepers.

CBs: De Vrij, Van Dijk, Aké, De Ligt, TFM(still don't see him as a rb), Van Drongelen, Pierie, Schuurs
Wingers: Depay, Promes, Kluivert, Bergwijn, Chong, (Dilrosun, Adekanye), (Kadioglu)
Fullbacks there's a couple young guys playing for like Twente, AZ, Heerenveen. Bakker at Ajax is looking like a great leftback talent
 
Ajaxsuarez said:
Any idea how Redan and Castillo are doing at Chelsea? There's also Dilrosun at City but he won't get any time there. And Adekanye at Liverpool but no idea how he's doing and he's 18 now. Bergwijn and Van de Beek are also two players who were key players in the Oranje youth teams and now starting players for PSV and Ajax respectively.

Still lacking a creative midfielder in all of this though, which makes the Nouri situation tragic for sporting reasons on top of the personal aspect of it.

I think Holland is set in terms of wingers and centrebacks, and maybe centremids. In these generations there's still a lack of any clear centre strikers, attacking midfielders and goalkeepers.

CBs: De Vrij, Van Dijk, Aké, De Ligt, TFM(still don't see him as a rb), Van Drongelen, Pierie, Schuurs
Wingers: Depay, Promes, Kluivert, Bergwijn, Chong, (Dilrosun, Adekanye), (Kadioglu)
Fullbacks there's a couple young guys playing for like Twente, AZ, Heerenveen. Bakker at Ajax is looking like a great leftback talent
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Of course I don’t follow Chelsea’s youth team vigorously, but I saw Redan and Castillo both scored for their U23s in the John Smith Cup (they were playing against proper pros) last week. Redan is only 16 I believe so that’s definitely impressive.

Funny you say there are no strikers as I thought that was Redan’s best position?

I think the Dutch should have a good blend of youth and experience within two or three years. As for specific positions like striker and attacking midfield, I don’t think you need to worry much about that just yet. There are enough wingers and creative central midfielders coming through, and young players positions may Not be fully defined yet. De Jong could yet end up as a 10, or Memphis even could still be a 9 I think.

What about Baars, is he rated in Holland?
 
Personally would like to see both him and Gomes on the pre-season tour this summer. Both have got very bright futures here.
 
Cassidy said:
Really bad tackle, did his knee ligaments, I think ACL
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Earthquake said:
Late January last year.
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Cheers. I suppose he only really missed about 3 months of football with the summer. I remembered it being a tackle alright but wasn't sure when he got injured. I guess the fact it was a tackle rather than simply breaking down innocuously would suggest it isn't something he will be susceptible to.
 
Redo91 said:
Cheers. I suppose he only really missed about 3 months of football with the summer. I remembered it being a tackle alright but wasn't sure when he got injured. I guess the fact it was a tackle rather than simply breaking down innocuously would suggest it isn't something he will be susceptible to.
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I remember the tackle, real shithouse one from some Everton clogger.
 
I was watching the whole game against Spurs u23. I'm really shocked about the performance of our youth, no chemistry at all. Tahith had a pretty good debut, had a couple of good runs, but kept on making sloppy passes, shots weren't that good. He played much better then Gomes, but both of them need to step up so they can regulary get at least a look on the bench like Foden of City. Of course there's time and they need to get stronger. Great prospect he's quick as hell, let's just patiently wait.
 
Rozay said:
Of course I don’t follow Chelsea’s youth team vigorously, but I saw Redan and Castillo both scored for their U23s in the John Smith Cup (they were playing against proper pros) last week. Redan is only 16 I believe so that’s definitely impressive.

Funny you say there are no strikers as I thought that was Redan’s best position?

I think the Dutch should have a good blend of youth and experience within two or three years. As for specific positions like striker and attacking midfield, I don’t think you need to worry much about that just yet. There are enough wingers and creative central midfielders coming through, and young players positions may Not be fully defined yet. De Jong could yet end up as a 10, or Memphis even could still be a 9 I think.

What about Baars, is he rated in Holland?
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I didn't realise Castillo was already at the age of playing U23, but apparently he's already 18 now?

De Jong really isn't a 10 to me, nor is Memphis a 9, but I guess we can always hope that 5 years from now there's some wonderkid striker coming through that's there ate 18 like Kluivert was back in the day haha

Baars isn't rated here at all, no.
 
Ajaxsuarez said:
I didn't realise Castillo was already at the age of playing U23, but apparently he's already 18 now?

De Jong really isn't a 10 to me, nor is Memphis a 9, but I guess we can always hope that 5 years from now there's some wonderkid striker coming through that's there ate 18 like Kluivert was back in the day haha

Baars isn't rated here at all, no.
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Yea, I just meant young players can evolve in terms of position. Chong could end up a left back for all we know! Look at Demitri Mitchell, or Antonio Valencia etc.

But yea, Baars doesn’t look a top player to me either.
 
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