T20 Auction draft - Rd 1 - MJJ vs Anant

Who would win with conditions in mind?


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@Skizzo isn't P4: "Slow pitch with variable bounce, mainly assisting slow/spin bowlers" rather than "slow pitch with variable bounce, slightly assisting spin/swing bowlers:
 
Actually its 21.7 as compared to 20 for Mccleneghan (and this is only internationals)
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=bowling

But I'd rather compare their career wide stats, rather than only internationals, (thats what I have done for every player), primarily because players play more domestic T20 than T20Is. And thats where, although you get a better S/R, the economy goes off rails.
The problem in your bowling is Apart from Ajmal and Malik, your other 3 bowlers have an economy of 7.5+, and the next Sobers concedes 8.18/over!
Even the part timers you named, only Malik has decent stats, others have economy of 7.57, 7.47, 8.77.. So how are you even going to control runs?
I can easily play a risk free game vs Mccleneghan, although look at my players- they are all risk free guys, knowing that there are going to 8 overs from part timers, 4 overs from a bowler who concedes at 8+ an over. Even Mccleneghan will concede 7.89 an over (across all T20s)

I excluded the shit teams. Your Zimbabwe's, Canada's etc.

I've no idea about any of MJJ's bowlers apart from Chuckmal.

How can you not know perera,mcclenaghan,Gayle,Malik, white, hussey ?
 
MJJ hasn't got a bowling attack.

If you have gayle and kohli at the top, you don't need 8 batsmen(almost 9 seeing as Perera is an all rounder).

Ananth has 3 very good bowlers and a decent hit/miss bowler in Jadeja. Morkel's not great, but he'll bowl 4 overs.

No contest imo.
 
Gayle, Malik and Hussey are batsmen though. Who the feck are the rest of the three.

They are allrounders? Mcceg. Is a strike bowler for nz,wrecked a team in this world cup. Perera is a decent Lankan fast medium bowler.

MJJ hasn't got a bowling attack.

If you have gayle and kohli at the top, you don't need 8 batsmen(almost 9 seeing as Perera is an all rounder).

Ananth has 3 very good bowlers and a decent hit/miss bowler in Jadeja. Morkel's not great, but he'll bowl 4 overs.

No contest imo.

The pitch doesn't suit fast bowlers, thats why I dropped broad for Malik. I have three main bowlers and 8 overs will be bowled by spinners. Should be enough to take the pavr out of the game

Even if ur scores 200 due to a weaker bowling attack , I have the batting to chase it.
 
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So even you don't know who White is? :lol:

Sorry just woke up so brain is slow. Cameron white? How often do you watch cricket? He has been a regular for Australia's t20 side.I will make a players profile for you when I he to the offocf.

Till then watch this.
 
MJJ's bowling is ok. Gayle and Hussey often bowl 3-4 overs for their side. Cameron White also is an all rounder for Victoria and could bowl spin when needed, just like Malik. I think MJJ's bowling is ok. Anant's is stronger though. Both have weakness in bowling in Albie and Thisara but they have bowling options to cover any bad overs from them anyway

Rohit Sharma and Gayle will both struggle against spin. So will Luke Wright imo. His hundreds were in BBL in australia and against NZ and all. On the other hand, Kohli is a matchwinner himself. I rate jayawardene too who played very well for KXIP in IPL an was good in this BBL too.
 
Malik has bowled almost 3000 balls in T20s, taking 135 wickets with an economy of 7 and strike rate of 19/20.
Hussey has bowled almost 2000 balls in T20s, taking 87 wickets, with an economy of 7.3(estimate) and strike rate of 20.
Gayle has bowled almost 2000 balls in T20s, taking 91 wickets, with an economy of 7.3(estimate) and strike rate of 22.

All three of them are more then capable of bowling on a pitch with help for spinners. Infact those stats are similar to anant's main strike bowler Sohail Tanvir, so saying I dont have a bowling attack is a big misinterpretation.
 
MJJ's bowling is ok. Gayle and Hussey often bowl 3-4 overs for their side. Cameron White also is an all rounder for Victoria and could bowl spin when needed, just like Malik. I think MJJ's bowling is ok. Anant's is stronger though. Both have weakness in bowling in Albie and Thisara but they have bowling options to cover any bad overs from them anyway

Rohit Sharma and Gayle will both struggle against spin. So will Luke Wright imo. His hundreds were in BBL in australia and against NZ and all. On the other hand, Kohli is a matchwinner himself. I rate jayawardene too who played very well for KXIP in IPL an was good in this BBL too.

Yeah thats a fair assessment imo, with the pitch spinner friendly that should assist me further as well as the part timers are going to go through a lot of overs in the middle and the batting line up can chase any target.
 
Malik has bowled almost 3000 balls in T20s, taking 135 wickets with an economy of 7 and strike rate of 19/20.
Hussey has bowled almost 2000 balls in T20s, taking 87 wickets, with an economy of 7.3(estimate) and strike rate of 20.
Gayle has bowled almost 2000 balls in T20s, taking 91 wickets, with an economy of 7.3(estimate) and strike rate of 22.

All three of them are more then capable of bowling on a pitch with help for spinners. Infact those stats are similar to anant's main strike bowler Sohail Tanvir, so saying I dont have a bowling attack is a big misinterpretation.

Malik- 6.99 economy, S/R 21.8, Ave 25.5 (2408 deliveries) 110 wickets
Gayle- 7.57 economy, S/R 24.3, Ave 30.70 (1800 deliveries) 74 wickets
Hussey- 7.47 economy, S.R 21.1, Ave 26.35 (1438 deliveries) 69 wickets

The T20 stats column is the sum of Internationals and Domestic. So no need to add the 2 columns, And even if you do need to add, it will be as per weighted means rather than on a 1:1 ratio

Sohail Tanvir -7.28 economy, S.R 21.1, Ave 25.72 (4449 deliveries) 210 wickets
Not similar
 
Malik- 6.99 economy, S/R 21.8, Ave 25.5 (2408 deliveries) 110 wickets
Gayle- 7.57 economy, S/R 24.3, Ave 30.70 (1800 deliveries) 74 wickets
Hussey- 7.47 economy, S.R 21.1, Ave 26.35 (1438 deliveries) 69 wickets

The T20 stats column is the sum of Internationals and Domestic. So no need to add the 2 columns, And even if you do need to add, it will be as per weighted means rather than on a 1:1 ratio

Sohail Tanvir -7.28 economy, S.R 21.1, Ave 25.72 (4449 deliveries) 210 wickets
Not similar

Yeah thats why I said approximate 7.3 for gayle and hussey. Wasnt going to calculate the actual economy, the point was all of them regularly ball in T20s and are all rounders. Not part timers, the economy and strike rate(actually better) is similar to tanvir's.
 
Don't rate MJJ team at all but he has got Virat motherfin Kohli. His bowling is also getting underrated. Gayle is a tad overrated IMO and Anant team is more balanced.

But again Virat Kohli.
 
Anant has Starc and Ashwin and I think both can negate Gayle factor.
 
Don't rate MJJ team at all but he has got Virat motherfin Kohli. His bowling is also getting underrated. Gayle is a tad overrated IMO and Anant team is more balanced.

But again Virat Kohli.

He is playing three fast bowlers on a pitch that is going to help spinners, I wouldnt call that as being balanced. There is a reason why I opted to drop broad for another spinner.
 
He is playing three fast bowlers on a pitch that is going to help spinners, I wouldnt call that as being balanced. There is a reason why I opted to drop broad for another spinner.

Ashwin and Jadeja are kinda deadly on spinning pitches. Are you playing White as a spinner? Bad call if true.
 
Yeah thats why I said approximate 7.3 for gayle and hussey. Wasnt going to calculate the actual economy, the point was all of them regularly ball in T20s and are all rounders. Not part timers, the economy and strike rate(actually better) is similar to tanvir's.
Nah, what I'm saying is, The T20 column from espncricinfo is sum of Domestic and Internationals, so you don't need to even do the average thing
 
Ashwin and Jadeja are kinda deadly on spinning pitches. Are you playing White as a spinner? Bad call if true.

Dont need to. I have Gayle, Malik, Ajmal and Hussey alongside Perera and Mcclenaghan.

Ajmal is deadlier on spinning pitches :p and the trio of gayle,malik and hussey trumps jadeja.
 
@MJJ can you detail your bowling plan? Who will be bowling how many overs and when.

Its a pretty flexible bowling plan as I dont think you can have a set plan in T20s.

Gayle and Mcclenaghan are going to ball the first two/three overs.
Ajmal is going to come immediately after the power play overs for an over or two.
Malik and Hussey are going to bowl along side him.

Am going to be saving atleast one/two overs of perera,mcclenaghan for the end and a minimum of two overs from ajmal.

If Gayle is getting hit at the start, then perera will replace him. Ditto with Mcclenaghan. Depending on the fall of wickets, one of malik or hussey will complete the full quote of four overs in the middle otherwise they will share the 8 overs with gayle.

Perera is currently on track to ball an over or two in the middle after a wicket falls.
 
Ok, let me get you some stats:
Considering every player plays his average game, no out of form players, no very in form players:
My top 7 players are likely to score 158.981 runs and concede 143.08 runs
Your top 7 players (assuming Hussey comes in as no. 8, as White as last batsman doesn't make sense because that player is useless- no bat no ball!) are likely to score 159.0381 runs and going to concede 148.32!
So I'm going to score .0571 runs less than you despite you having Kohli and Gayle.
But I will concede 5.24 runs less than you!
The stats and calculations coming up
 
Ok, let me get you some stats:
Considering every player plays his average game, no out of form players, no very in form players:
My top 7 players are likely to score 158.981 runs and concede 143.08 runs
Your top 7 players (assuming Hussey comes in as no. 8, as White as last batsman doesn't make sense because that player is useless- no bat no ball!) are likely to score 159.0381 runs and going to concede 148.32!
So I'm going to score .0571 runs less than you despite you having Kohli and Gayle.
But I will concede 5.24 runs less than you!
The stats and calculations coming up

White doesnt bat? He is a past australia t20 captain and you think they gave him the role because of what? His fielding? if he cant bat or ball.

Was pretty good in the match that hussey destroyed us(2011 world cup) in. Is a previous australian T20 captain. and..









 
Gayle-Kohli together at RCB haven't won IPL yet, ergo MJJ loses.
 
Ok, let me get you some stats:
Considering every player plays his average game, no out of form players, no very in form players:
My top 7 players are likely to score 158.981 runs and concede 143.08 runs
Your top 7 players (assuming Hussey comes in as no. 8, as White as last batsman doesn't make sense because that player is useless- no bat no ball!) are likely to score 159.0381 runs and going to concede 148.32!
So I'm going to score .0571 runs less than you despite you having Kohli and Gayle.
But I will concede 5.24 runs less than you!
The stats and calculations coming up

Calculations:
http://i.imgur.com/ts5oMwB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sVBFDy1.jpg
 
White doesnt bat? He is a past australia t20 captain and you think they gave him the role because of what? His fielding? if he cant bat or ball.

And thats why I didn't send him at no. 8 in the calculations
 
You are assuming only five of my players will bat? :lol: Bro, why the feck would they retain wickets and not go for big shots.
I assumed 7!
 
I like the fact that the Gayle vs Ashwin debate will be solved tonight irl. It's at the wankhede if I am not mistaken. Isn't that a small ground , but more batsmen friendly ?
 
Erm what about the other 9 players? Am not playing shit alongside them. And did you read my write up? This is India's Kohli and a horny Gayle, not the shitty RCB's version. They are going to wreck havoc.
:lol: I wasn't serious. No, I haven't read or voted yet. At first look anant's bowling looks better though.