I like it, it means you can't make your team overly-dependent on any one player, which is the sort of damage injuries could have IRL. Draft the squad well and it shouldn't be an issue.
Surveillance Draft
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I like it, it means you can't make your team overly-dependent on any one player, which is the sort of damage injuries could have IRL. Draft the squad well and it shouldn't be an issue.
Reminder on how injuries and subs work
Reminder about how injuries and tactical changes work.
The probability is that each team will have 1/2 an injury per game. The maximum number is 2 per team. You name a three man bench and can make a max of two subs. The players who are injured are injured for the following game but will recover for the later one. eg. Injured in R1 misses QF but is fit for the SF.
When the match starts whoever sets the match up (probably me) will randomise the numbers 2-41 and send the results of who is injured (both managers know who is injured so they can predict the other manager's changes) or not to the managers who should then PM me back with any changes they want to make and I'll update the thread at 8hrs. At 8hrs another randomisation will take place following the same format. If managers like they can make two subs at either 8 or 16hrs. The only constraint is that it subs or tactics changes take place in those time periods and doesn't involves more than two subs.
NB. You need to give your players squad numbers for it to work and keepers cannot be injured.
The probability is that each team will have 1/2 an injury per game. The maximum number is 2 per team. You name a three man bench and can make a max of two subs. The players who are injured are injured for the following game but will recover for the later one. eg. Injured in R1 misses QF but is fit for the SF.
When the match starts whoever sets the match up (probably me) will randomise the numbers 2-41 and send the results of who is injured (both managers know who is injured so they can predict the other manager's changes) or not to the managers who should then PM me back with any changes they want to make and I'll update the thread at 8hrs. At 8hrs another randomisation will take place following the same format. If managers like they can make two subs at either 8 or 16hrs. The only constraint is that it subs or tactics changes take place in those time periods and doesn't involves more than two subs.
NB. You need to give your players squad numbers for it to work and keepers cannot be injured.
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I have to say, around R5 I was wondering how nobody had picked him so I had to go check (I had deleted him anyway due to Ruud)You can just list the names and then. 29 to however many and the first 2 numbers/names are the ones that count.
I think a slightly bigger bench would be far more realistic, imagine a real team only being allowed three bench players. Nevertheless we started the draft with that rule so it should be for the future. Your bench has to cover all defensive positions, all midfield positions and wingers/forward one. So it is impossible to have the option to also have replacement for some key parts of the team at the same time.
Also possible double injuries means that you can get two injuries on the same part of the team, I.e both of your centre backs, and now you've got one defender on the bench - but the other two remaining options also has to be able to play as forwards and as centre backs.
I doubt anybody will have a remote chance of surviving if they catch a double, in particular a double in the same area. Unless they draft bad and get lucky that their bench consists of three forwards and they have two injured.Downcast has my next pick
I think a slightly bigger bench would be far more realistic, imagine a real team only being allowed three bench players. Nevertheless we started the draft with that rule so it should be for the future. Your bench has to cover all defensive positions, all midfield positions and wingers/forward one. So it is impossible to have the option to also have replacement for some key parts of the team at the same time.
Also possible double injuries means that you can get two injuries on the same part of the team, I.e both of your centre backs, and now you've got one defender on the bench - but the other two remaining options also has to be able to play as forwards and as centre backs.
Think that's part of the draft though. It comes down to luck and good drafting. People will have drafted some players capable of playing in different positions in order to cover for this.
I think a slightly bigger bench would be far more realistic, imagine a real team only being allowed three bench players. Nevertheless we started the draft with that rule so it should be for the future. Your bench has to cover all defensive positions, all midfield positions and wingers/forward one. So it is impossible to have the option to also have replacement for some key parts of the team at the same time.
Also possible double injuries means that you can get two injuries on the same part of the team, I.e both of your centre backs, and now you've got one defender on the bench - but the other two remaining options also has to be able to play as forwards and as centre backs.
Striking the balance between making it difficult and enjoyable is key. Also like you mentioned, two injuries to CB's and then it takes the skill out of the game because it is down to sheer luck as no manager could recover from that.
Just waiting for @Aldo to come on. Just a few minutes. At best 25-30 mins.
Isn't Howedes ineligible?
With great drafting you can cover for one injury and the no mates rule already makes it a challenge and most likely you will still see some major quality drop from having Maldini injured to bringing in a 12th pick. While the second injury would be more or less an instant loss unless people feel sorry for you and try to ignore the injury event all together and focus on what you started with. No matter how good you draft you can't replace Vieira and Keane being injured, at best you can still have a formation that makes sense, but let's be honest - it'll be worse than the opponents.
Yup
Thanks, I have your next pick
Feck sake
I'm sure the DoB keep changing I kept this pick back for ages as I was sure no one would pick him up. I'll make my pick in due time carry on.
Oh yeah obviously and I wasn't saying it was something I had done. Just that some players might have considered this and picked 4 or 5 multi functional players.
He's a good pick I'd imagine he'll be gone earlier if eligibleFeck sake
I'm sure the DoB keep changing I kept this pick back for ages as I was sure no one would pick him up. I'll make my pick in due time carry on.
He's a good pick I'd imagine he'll be gone earlier if eligible
He's someone I think that usually gets under rated and in a Billy no mates blocking a few good Germans would push him down the list. As I said this might take me a while as I've had him penned in for a while so not looked at that position. I'll make my pick in due time.
I'll take Garay. @Downcast can you change your list please
Yeah, for example @Tuppet has done well to pick up Luis Enrique and Panucci at R5/7 who are both strong in multiple positions.
Yeah I've only got a couple myself but it's a good tactic to pick up them sort of players.
aye, most of the players(probably minus Giggs) we've went for are versatile enough to play in different positions. Glad Pessotto wasn't taken as he is one of my favs in drafts like this and he also doesn't block that many players(those he will aren't available for reinforcement either way).
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg
Pat Mustard 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer
@Aldo @prath92 use this list
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg
Pat Mustard 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer
@Aldo @prath92 use this list
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar
Pat Mustard 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer
@Pat_Mustard
I think a slightly bigger bench would be far more realistic, imagine a real team only being allowed three bench players. Nevertheless we started the draft with that rule so it should be for the future. Your bench has to cover all defensive positions, all midfield positions and wingers/forward one. So it is impossible to have the option to also have replacement for some key parts of the team at the same time.
Also possible double injuries means that you can get two injuries on the same part of the team, I.e both of your centre backs, and now you've got one defender on the bench - but the other two remaining options also has to be able to play as forwards and as centre backs.
IIRC when the Premiership started there were three subs on the bench? I'm positive we often didn't have a goalie on the bench for this reason.
A double injury in the same area would be a bastard beyond draftmastery, but tough shit I guess.
Gio - 1. Messi 2. Cafu 3. Cannavaro 4. Gerrard 5. Makelele 6. Brian Laudrup 7. Prosinečki 8. Claudio Lopez 9. Filipe Luís
The Stain - 1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Batistuta 3. Iniesta 4. Mauro Silva 5. Sagnol 6. Popescu 7. Terry 8. McManaman 9. Jarni
OneNil - 1. Maldini 2. Ferdinand 3. Henry 4. Mendieta 5. Mascherano 6. S. Ramos 7. Marchisio 8. Caniggia 9. Maicon
DavidG - 1. Ronaldo 2. Godin 3. Bergkamp 4. Evra 5. Veron 6. Conte 7. Ledley King 8. Albelda 9. Mostovoi
Raees/Invictus 1. Nesta 2. Davids 3. Scholes 4. Ribery 5. Chiellini 6. Essien 7. W Samuel 8. Jens Lehmann 9. L Guily
Bleezy 1. Sammer 2. R. Carlos 3. D. Alves 4. Torres 5. Ballack 6. Del Piero 7. Petit 8. Sneijder 9. Couto
Skizzo/Annah 1. Ronaldinho 2. Lizarazu 3. Robben 4. G. Neville 5. Guardiola 6. Simeone 7. Gamarra 8. Baraja 9. Buffon
Mazhar/Enigma 1. Desailly 2. Zanetti 3. Giggs 4. Vidal 5. Shevchenko 6. Raúl 7. David Silva 8. Wörns 9. Pessotto
Tuppet 1. Zidane 2. Schweinsteiger 3. Stam 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Luis Enrique 6. Forlan 7. Panucci 8. Kompany 9. Cech
VivaJanuzaj/EAP 1. P Lahm 2. L. Suarez 3. Effenberg 4. Shearer 5. Overmars 6. Pires 7. Abidal 8. Hyypia 9. Senna
Physiocrat 1. Thuram 2. Modric 3. T.Silva 4. van Nistelrooy 5. Sol Campbell 6. G. Signori 7. Serginho 8. Kanchelskis 9. O.Kahn
Downcast 1. R. Baggio 2. Kaka 3. Etoo 4. Ayala 5. Maniche 6. Xabi Alonso 7. Candela 8. F. De Boer 9. Camoranesi
P-Nut 1. R. Keane 2. Vieira 3. Drogba 4. Rui Costa 5. Puyol 6. Barzagli 7. Carrick 8. Ginola 9. Garay
Aldo/prath92 1. Totti 2. Rivaldo 3. Vidic 4. Hierro 5. P. Montero 6. Z. Boban 7. Deco 8. Ljunberg 9. Julio Cesar
Pat Mustard 1. Redondo 2. Figo 3. A. Cole 4. Ferrara 5. Gascoigne 6. Villa 7. Petrescu 8. Boli 9. Larsson
Joga Bonito 1. Xavi 2. Nedved 3. Seedorf 4. Carvalho 5. Deschamps 6. Lucio 7. Benarrivo 8. Neuer
@Joga Bonito
was hoping to have him on my bench
He deserves better than picking splinters out of his arse on the subs' bench
Gazza, Larsson and Boli? I like this SPL dream team feel you're going for @Pat_Mustard. Now there's a draft - all-time Scottish Premier League. We could fully embrace Physio's injury concept and have a broken leg and a couple of teeth knocked out per match.
There you go. I was wondering why he wasn't picked sooner.
Nice to see the player i was going to build around get picked after i forgot about his loan spell with you and bottled my second pick when DavidG took my first choice.
I think a slightly bigger bench would be far more realistic, imagine a real team only being allowed three bench players. Nevertheless we started the draft with that rule so it should be for the future. Your bench has to cover all defensive positions, all midfield positions and wingers/forward one. So it is impossible to have the option to also have replacement for some key parts of the team at the same time.
Also possible double injuries means that you can get two injuries on the same part of the team, I.e both of your centre backs, and now you've got one defender on the bench - but the other two remaining options also has to be able to play as forwards and as centre backs.
As Anto said the EPL only used to have a bench of three (I actually would like a return to this as it prevents the top teams from stockpiling the best players as many won't make the bench and will be mush more irritated than having a guaranteed bench position)
Two injuries per side is very unlikely. Also the reason for having two potential injuries is so that changes could be made at 8 hr intervals which makes it much easier to administer than one at 12hr.
We wanted him as one of our strikers but bloody Scholes blocked him off. Luckily we have another rabbit in the hat to pull out.
Keepers can get injured or no ?
No. Number it 1. Only 2 onwards can get injured. Otherwise I'd have picked O'Shea.
We'd have to reverse Anto's disciplinary record idea from the Vegas Draft and penalise managers for picking players with insufficient red cards. Its criminal that Chic Charnley has never took centre stage in one of these drafts.Nice. personally i was hoping to have Larsson and Henry and then pull Henry's quote from the 2006 final about how Henry didnt see Ronaldinho but he saw Henrik Larsson.
Once we've all finished drafting I'd be interested to see an outline of the team you planned to draft around him. I love Larsson, so its nice to see that he's got some fans on here.