It’s been a great window. 8/10
Onana probably the most important signing. Reminds me of when Liverpool bought Alisson.
Onana probably the most important signing. Reminds me of when Liverpool bought Alisson.
Summer Transfer Window
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I mean rating windows isn't about doing it in hindsight, any idiot could do that. It's about rating the process of us going about our business and the prospective players/needs we filled.
It’s been quite underwhelming considering we’ve spent £170m.
Yeah, I’m currently thinking 6/10 at the moment but still potential to get better I guess. Prices do not bother me, used to that by now.
Hoping for a quality DM, CB to come in asap to raise it up to an 8/10.
Yeah I don’t think we’ve made a big step forward unless Højlund score 20 goals. I don’t see that happening this season and I think we’ll have a lot of chopping and changing up front.
I don’t think we’ve solved other huge issue either which was our total reliance on Casemiro being available and in form.
The outgoings are good, especially if they continue but we saw a huge exodus under LVG and it’s about who comes in as well. I like three players we’ve signed but we need a lot more and be interesting to see how many more players come in.
We still have almost 3 weeks.
I'd like to see the sales and signing Pavard, Amrabat/Lavia and Todibo. That'd be superb window, I think the best since god knows when.
I'd like to see the sales and signing Pavard, Amrabat/Lavia and Todibo. That'd be superb window, I think the best since god knows when.
We need more. Lavia and Pavard, for example. Maybe another striker.
Squad looks a bit thin, think we needed at least 2 midfielders, and 2 strikers and a young centre back for it to be a really good window. If we don't add then I'll have the same concerns as last season, not enough quality off the bench to change games, and little chance of rotation leading to tired performances and some hefty defeats.
Squad depth is definitely the issue and as someone said we really need someone who can slot at #6 when required. We're one injury away of going from a decent midfield to makeshift solutions. There's been enough noise to think another signing in midfield (and CB) might happen at least.
Likewise top center where we need someone else. Even if MG is brought back he won't be fit right away. It didn't work great last year but maybe a CF on loan ?
I didn't expect that window to fix all the issues so if it ends with 5 signings including some of the names we're linked to, it's pretty good. Especially if Pavard is included. Amrabat looks interesting but while he makes a competent 6 (reportedly) I wouldn't mind a very defensive minded addition at one point.
However while I think this team core is shaping up nicely and should be good for 3-4 years; Eriksen, Casemiro and Varane might need reinforcement sooner.
Suspect next summer we'll see United dumping 100m on a player just to not feel left out.
Likewise top center where we need someone else. Even if MG is brought back he won't be fit right away. It didn't work great last year but maybe a CF on loan ?
I didn't expect that window to fix all the issues so if it ends with 5 signings including some of the names we're linked to, it's pretty good. Especially if Pavard is included. Amrabat looks interesting but while he makes a competent 6 (reportedly) I wouldn't mind a very defensive minded addition at one point.
However while I think this team core is shaping up nicely and should be good for 3-4 years; Eriksen, Casemiro and Varane might need reinforcement sooner.
Suspect next summer we'll see United dumping 100m on a player just to not feel left out.
With Woodward in charge we could have signed Bellingham, Kim min Jae, Harry Kane & Moises Caicedo*
I'll see myself out.
With any window it’s complicated to judge but it’s more than just saying we signed x,y,z. You have to factor in whether the individual fit is right and compare and contrast to what your rivals have done.
Where I would be concerned about our business with these things in mind is..
Mount seemed a good fit on paper but having watched the pre season games it’s clear the balance is massively off and Ten Haag needs to alter that quickly. Signing Amrabat would probably take some of that concern away.
Onana and Hoijlund are unknown qualities compared to say Rice and Raya or Caicedo and McAllister. The latter four are all proven as big successes in the PL. So that’s two of our potential rivals who there’s a case of saying they’ve strengthened better. On the flip side Newcastle and Chelsea’s business has been meh.
We seem to be getting our sales right and generally speaking those are more black and white to judge. We all know the likes of Fred, Maguire, Vdb are never going to be good enough to play for us. So that’s a big positive.
Where I would be concerned about our business with these things in mind is..
Mount seemed a good fit on paper but having watched the pre season games it’s clear the balance is massively off and Ten Haag needs to alter that quickly. Signing Amrabat would probably take some of that concern away.
Onana and Hoijlund are unknown qualities compared to say Rice and Raya or Caicedo and McAllister. The latter four are all proven as big successes in the PL. So that’s two of our potential rivals who there’s a case of saying they’ve strengthened better. On the flip side Newcastle and Chelsea’s business has been meh.
We seem to be getting our sales right and generally speaking those are more black and white to judge. We all know the likes of Fred, Maguire, Vdb are never going to be good enough to play for us. So that’s a big positive.
On the new attitude to sales, I think the big test will be a year for now. If Sancho has another season like he did so far in a red shirt (and I'd very much like to see him turn it around), will the team put him on the shelf ?
I get this. I do think Hojlund will score the goals that we couldn't last year due to the lack of CF/Weghorst. I also believe there's no way that the rest of our players bar Rashford will be as bad as finishing. Last year it seemed if Rashford wasn't gonna score then we weren't going to score at all. I'm hoping they've worked on that over the summer - pre season says not exactly due to the chances we were still missing but let's see.
Hoping for another midfielder or even 2 + a defender.
Keep Fernandez dont care about the rest.
This is the most important signing we should have made straight after confirming Onana and Hoijlund. How Mount became our priority signing I will never know but I will he happy of he surprised me and did well. I'm shocked we actually turned down 30m from West Ham though, maybe ETH plans to use him in that advanced role besides Bruno/Mount depending on in-game situations.
The age profile of our signings has been good. We’ve also bought in clear and obvious positions of need. But we need more. We can’t go into the new season without another midfielder; it’s suicidal. A long-term injury to Casemiro and our season is effectively over. I’m really worried we won’t bring somebody in.
We also need a centre half in to replace Maguire. To be fair, I think we’ll do that. It’s the midfield I’m worried about.
We also need a centre half in to replace Maguire. To be fair, I think we’ll do that. It’s the midfield I’m worried about.
Basically since the end of the summer we have upgraded on:
DDG -> Onana
Sabitzer -> Mount
Weghorst -> Hojlund
The bar was pretty low so we have improved but it isn’t really exciting and won’t take us to the next level.
Hopefully more to come.
DDG -> Onana
Sabitzer -> Mount
Weghorst -> Hojlund
The bar was pretty low so we have improved but it isn’t really exciting and won’t take us to the next level.
Hopefully more to come.
Caceido would have been a monumental signing for us, however, Amrabat, Pavard and maybe a striker (Greenwood or a loan) then its a 8/10 window.
6/10
Onana is great and was much needed
Hojlund has the potential to be great but right now he's far from the finished product.
Mount was pointless imo and that money should've been used elsewhere.
Onana is great and was much needed
Hojlund has the potential to be great but right now he's far from the finished product.
Mount was pointless imo and that money should've been used elsewhere.
When I look at what some of our rivals have done and are doing I think we have done great so far, got our 1st 2 choices in the GK and MF, likely got a 2nd option for a forward but I don't think that's a big deal, all we have to do is shift some more out and then we'll get maybe 1 or 2 more in
Not good enough
In the CF position, we are again one injury away from being in a spot of bother. Martial is an unreliable backup ST
We have no viable backup for Casemiro either.
We have though, brought in a young CF with potential and a keeper that will alow us to play how we need.
I'll reserve judgement on Mount.
We need another 3 signings (backup CF, backup DM, Maguire replacement)
In the CF position, we are again one injury away from being in a spot of bother. Martial is an unreliable backup ST
We have no viable backup for Casemiro either.
We have though, brought in a young CF with potential and a keeper that will alow us to play how we need.
I'll reserve judgement on Mount.
We need another 3 signings (backup CF, backup DM, Maguire replacement)
i think we will see a lot of Marcus at CF this year with Garnacho play much more regularly...i'd prefer to see us add a real top class winger with whatever monies we have left after sales
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...elay-decision-mason-greenwoods-future-sources
Surely you'll sell him abroad? I don't see how he can play in the UK now as too much scrutiny and bad PR for Utd.
I think if that was the plan, it would've happened months ago, not near the end of the transfer window.
Very happy with the window so far. Onana will reinvent the playing style more than any other position we could've changed. Finally a young striker who isn't a stop gap. Excited to see more of Mount but could see him not in our best XI. If we also end up with Amrabat and another CB can't really complain. Kane was always my dream but you can easily add 40% to what Bayern are paying if we wanted him and I don't think we should be offering those types of wages to a 30 year old anymore eiter.
Really?
The sales and acquisitions have been sound, but the proof will be provided on the pitch. We need to bring in Amrabat and with that we will have done as much as could be reasonably expected under the present circumstances this summer on the acquisition front.
People pinning their hopes in Amrabat will be thoroughly disappointed. Also we signed Mount in a window where Bellingham moved clubs. Shows how far we have fallen in the transfer power chain.
Amrabat is the Casemiro back-up we sorely missed last season.
Have you seen him play other than the WC?
I’m inclined to agree with those saying it’s been underwhelming.
Just waiting patiently for the Glazers to piss off so we can start acting like a really ambitious club again.
Obviously, fingers crossed that all our signings exceed expectations.
Just waiting patiently for the Glazers to piss off so we can start acting like a really ambitious club again.
Obviously, fingers crossed that all our signings exceed expectations.
Imo, we had 3 priorities; striker who will give us 30 goals in all competitions, midfielder who brings difference and ball playing gk.
For ball playing gk we went for the best on the marked which is great and what United should do.
Mount will not resolve our midfield problem about controling the game but he will bring something else (mobility, high press and goals probably). Good signing but nothing more and nothing less.
Hojlund; i am devided about this. I am glad that we have striker with huge potential and who is probably our long term solution but he will not be game changer this season. I expected/hoped that we will go all in for best of the best here (like we always did with strikers). I know that Osimhen and Kane were expensive but still, they would turn us in title contender.
Regarding sales; we shall see how good we were when transfer window ends.
For ball playing gk we went for the best on the marked which is great and what United should do.
Mount will not resolve our midfield problem about controling the game but he will bring something else (mobility, high press and goals probably). Good signing but nothing more and nothing less.
Hojlund; i am devided about this. I am glad that we have striker with huge potential and who is probably our long term solution but he will not be game changer this season. I expected/hoped that we will go all in for best of the best here (like we always did with strikers). I know that Osimhen and Kane were expensive but still, they would turn us in title contender.
Regarding sales; we shall see how good we were when transfer window ends.
A club is only as ambitious as it’s owners.
And the Glazers have literally zero ambition to challenge City for top honours, or to challenge Europe’s elite. The thought of them doing so is literally laughable.
A top 4 / 5 finish is the owners’ ambition, and the transfer activities of Utd this Summer reflect that, no matter how much fans try to delude themselves otherwise.
It won't be Pavard it will be Tobido
I'm no fan of the glazers but saying this when we have spent over 400m in two summers is a bit overly harsh even for them.
The truth is our squad is way behind the other top teams so a lot of our investment is to improve things across the team, and not to put the cherry on the top with a Kane.
He will never be more than a squad player. When Casemiro won't play our performances will still nosedive.Erm not even that. YouTube compilations.
https://one-versus-one.com/en/compa...s, 118 aerial duels,total number of 6 tackles.
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No marquee signings for the first time in a long time.
Good.
We've filled in the gaps in the squad rather than buying for the sake of the sponsors. Very happy with that, to be honest.
Good.
We've filled in the gaps in the squad rather than buying for the sake of the sponsors. Very happy with that, to be honest.
Seen him play a few times for Fiorentina, he'd be a good addition to our squad and add some traits we're missing.
Also, he outclassed Rice in the European match they played, which by scouse maths at least means he's worth £150m, and we're only going to pay £25, so drinks and canapes all round
Is it different if we compare with McT instead?