Summer transfer window

Coleman just can't be ignored in my opinion. He's having a fantastic season and I wouldn't say no to signing him. Varela looks promising but isn't quite ready yet in my opinion. He's not exactly young but he's not really had good experience at a high level.

If there's one thing I do trust Moyes in, it is his judgement of defenders. He's pretty damn good in that aspect.

Before I move on to the CB spots, what I'll concede is that Coleman offers a lot of game and were he to magically be swapped with Rafael I would be very pleased to have him on the squad. That said, I still see significant upside to Rafael, the main downside is that he's so injury prone. What little I've seen of Varela -- mostly on youtube, to be fair -- suggests to me a fantastic young prospect. Yes, he doesn't have prem experience but with Rafael on the squad we don't need the finished product.

As for CBs, I'm very good with Jones and Smalling. With a consistent run of form I really do have little doubt they will achieve greatness together. Evans worries me, but he's a good squad man. I wouldn't object to Rio for another season, eyes wide open that he's a cameo man and nothing more. But if there's another Stam out there at a reasonable pricetag out there I'd have no problem bring him in at all, but for me that would mean either Jonny or Rio would have step down, probably Rio.
 
"A good squad man" and you wouldn't object to Rio for another year?

Have you watched us this season? Evans has been our best defender.

Its almost doubled standards when you listen to some fans on Evans and Rafael. The Brazilian has made more mistakes and can still be so naive defensively but even the suggestion of buying a right back is almost laughed at.

Its not a dig at Rafael but i wish people would take off the red tinted specs from time to time.
 
Evans has made more errors that have leads to goals this season and that's irrefutable. I say this as somebody who rates the pair of them highly.
 
"A good squad man" and you wouldn't object to Rio for another year?

Have you watched us this season? Evans has been our best defender.

Its almost doubled standards when you listen to some fans on Evans and Rafael. The Brazilian has made more mistakes and can still be so naive defensively but even the suggestion of buying a right back is almost laughed at.

Its not a dig at Rafael but i wish people would take off the red tinted specs from time to time.

That's probably partly down to their different positions though, isn't it? I think people are generally more forgiving of fullbacks making mistakes than centre backs, particularly when you expect your fullbacks to attack as much as we do.

I certainly think we could do with signing a right back but, considering the strengthening we need in other areas and Rafael's potential, someone like Coleman shouldn't be a major priority.
 
We've heard from the likes of Keane, Schmikes and all the so called expert that we need 5-6 players this summer but has anyone specified which positions?

For me we need 1 CB, as i can see Rio leave too.

1 LB, to replace Evra.

2 CM's, with Ando gone this is an area we need a min. of 1 DM and 1 AM.

2 wingers, i can see Young, Valencia and possibly Zaha, if not all leave in the summer.

1 striker, not as important but if RVP and Hernandez leave then another area we need to look at.

That is a total of 7 player....that is some job for Moyes.
 
We've heard from the likes of Keane, Schmikes and all the so called expert that we need 5-6 players this summer but has anyone specified which positions?

For me we need 1 CB, as i can see Rio leave too.

1 LB, to replace Evra.

2 CM's, with Ando gone this is an area we need a min. of 1 DM and 1 AM.

2 wingers, i can see Young, Valencia and possibly Zaha, if not all leave in the summer.

1 striker, not as important but if RVP and Hernandez leave then another area we need to look at.

That is a total of 7 player....that is some job for Moyes.

We aren't going to lose all those players in one Summer. If Rio, Vidic, Giggs and Evra leave/retire, I'd imagine only a couple out of Nani, Kagawa, RVP, Hernandez, Young & Valencia will leave (with Zaha being loaned out again). We certainly aren't going to let 8-9 player's leave in one window.

That'll leave us needing a CB, LB and 2 central midfielders.
 
We've heard from the likes of Keane, Schmikes and all the so called expert that we need 5-6 players this summer but has anyone specified which positions?

For me we need 1 CB, as i can see Rio leave too.

1 LB, to replace Evra.

2 CM's, with Ando gone this is an area we need a min. of 1 DM and 1 AM.

2 wingers, i can see Young, Valencia and possibly Zaha, if not all leave in the summer.

1 striker, not as important but if RVP and Hernandez leave then another area we need to look at.

That is a total of 7 player....that is some job for Moyes.
some job for woodwood as well especially with a world cup and a pre season to fit in
 
Plan B, throw money at Southampton, although tbf I much prefer this option to the throw money at Everton option, they've already had enough of our cash.

http://footylatest.com/david-moyes-will-leave-no-stone-unturned-in-landing-southampton-duo/53770?
Lallana would be a pointless signing. He'd be a squad player at best (already have enough of them) and would further add to our problem of lack of both pace and quality at the same time. Only Nani has both but he's probably on his way out so we need to get somebody quick and somebody who will be a goal threat, like Griezmann, Draxler or Reus if there's any chance to get him (probably not).
 
Lallana would be a pointless signing. He'd be a squad player at best (already have enough of them) and would further add to our problem of lack of both pace and quality at the same time. Only Nani has both but he's probably on his way out so we need to get somebody quick and somebody who will be a goal threat, like Griezmann, Draxler or Reus if there's any chance to get him (probably not).

How would you personally line up your front 4 if you signed someone like Griezmann/Draxler/Reus?
 
As it stands right now we need 3 players:

1. A first choice left back.
2. Central Midfielder
3. A decent experienced CB like that Astori fellow we keep getting linked with. Any combination of Jones/Evans/Smalling is perfectly fine, but going off our injury record we can't go into a season with only 3 cbs. No point in breaking the bank for someone like Mangala when he'll cost alot and will expect to start from the off despite his young age. I do think Jones, Smalling and Evans are good enough and they are young as well.

I think we're fine for wingers. Januzaj will play more as will Mata. We'll probably still have Kagawa, Welbeck can fill in and I doubt anyone will be willing to offer Ashley Young anything close to what he'll make here, so I can see him opting to stick around Wayne Bridge style. That's 5 already and that is enough even if we do sell Nani as the papers suggest, Giggs retires and we find someone stupid enough to pay for Valencia's services. Of course if we can get someone special like Reus, by all means go for it, but it's not all that neccessary.

I don't think we need to sign 5 or 6 players as others have suggested unless a couple of them are ones we sign for the future and will likely play a very small role or even go on loan. Teams who bring in a shit load of players and try to crowbar all of them into the starting XI are asking for trouble and there are countless examples of this backfiring on teams with Spurs being the latest example.
 
How would you personally line up your front 4 if you signed someone like Griezmann/Draxler/Reus?
Something like:

Rooney
Reus Mata Januzaj
I've been of the opinion that one of Rooney or RVP need to leave for a while, but while they're both here to hope they'll come good. It's ruining the balance of our team though, and so is playing Rooney in the hole and Mata on the wing. Now that we bought Mata, we need to play him in the #10 position, use Januzaj on either wing, Rooney up front and then buy a quick inside forward type player for the other side. Doesn't matter if they're right wingers or left wingers since Januzaj is equally adept on either side IMO. That side would have a good mix of pace, directness and goalscoring, as well as being very creative and all the players very good technically.

Then if we also somehow manage to bring in Gundogan (injury free) or Kroos, then we can also change to a sort of 4-3-3, with Reus and Januzaj being advanced wingers, like Neymar and Sanchez for Barca, and then have sort of a midfield trio with Mata at the tip, playing deeper then in the other formation.
 
@bosnian_red

I'd agree with that 4 you have and your comments. One thing which i remember growing up watching United was the counter-attacking play you also had, someone like Reus would be perfect in bringing that back with his pace, coupled with Rooney and Januzaj. The 4-3-3 would help in developing a pressing game further too, which Moyes did to his credit instill in our side in the 12/13 season.
 
@bosnian_red

I'd agree with that 4 you have and your comments. One thing which i remember growing up watching United was the counter-attacking play you also had, someone like Reus would be perfect in bringing that back with his pace, coupled with Rooney and Januzaj. The 4-3-3 would help in developing a pressing game further too, which Moyes did to his credit instill in our side in the 12/13 season.
Mata isn't great on the counter, which is half the reason Mouronho deemed him surplus to requirements. I definitely think we need a pace option on one wing though, more of a wide forward type than a proper winger or a playmaker out wide.

I can definitely see us splashing out, even in positions we are currently strong in. Obviously much more pressing is the midfield though. Kroos and Carvalho or similar alternatives if/when we miss out would plug the gaps. A proper left back is essential, a centre half less so though it wouldn't surprise me.

I'd like us to have a good look at the long term prospects of Keane, Keane, Wilson, Lingard and Powell, amongst others, before splashing out willy nilly though.
 
Mata isn't great on the counter, which is half the reason Mouronho deemed him surplus to requirements. I definitely think we need a pace option on one wing though, more of a wide forward type than a proper winger or a playmaker out wide.

Hence why i said Reus if you bought someone of his ilk, or him. He and Rooney could build a similar relationship to the devastating Ronaldo/Rooney combo on the counter.
 
Hence why i said Reus if you bought someone of his ilk, or him. He and Rooney could build a similar relationship to the devastating Ronaldo/Rooney combo on the counter.
Yeah and I agree with that point, but the fact Mata would struggle in that sort of system means I'd be surprised if we tried it too often as he'll be a crucial cog in the side for years.
 
We've heard from the likes of Keane, Schmikes and all the so called expert that we need 5-6 players this summer but has anyone specified which positions?

For me we need 1 CB, as i can see Rio leave too.

1 LB, to replace Evra.

2 CM's, with Ando gone this is an area we need a min. of 1 DM and 1 AM.

2 wingers, i can see Young, Valencia and possibly Zaha, if not all leave in the summer.

1 striker, not as important but if RVP and Hernandez leave then another area we need to look at.

That is a total of 7 player....that is some job for Moyes.

Well it all depends on alot of things that are currently uncertain. We know alot of players will leave and be replaced but don't know exactly which players.

We know Vidic is certain to leave and Anderson won't come back
Evra, Rio and Nani are likely to leave
RVP, Hernandez and Kagawa might leave but they also might stay
Valencia, Büttner, Young and Cleverley alot of us want to leave but probably won't happen

Which means we'll probably be looking for players for a lot of different positions and I'am convinced we'll sign around 5 or 6 players in the summer. But who and for what positions really depends who will leave, how much money will have to spend, which players we'll able to get without CL football, which other teams will be in the market for our targets. If we can't attract our targets for the money we wish to spend we might look to alternative solutions like promoting from within and than it depends on which players are ready to step for the first team. On top of that we don't even know what system Moyes will want to convert to, is it a modern 4-4-2, a 4-3-3 a 4-2-3-1, the system might depend on the players that will stay and on the players that we'll be able to get in and in turn the players that will stay and we'll try to bring in might depend on the system we want to play. In short it is very diffuclt to say which players/postions we'll be getting exactly as there are many uncertain influential factors.

I think it is fair to say we might have to solve the following issues:

Improve the quality in the midfield

Replace Evra with a new leftback

Solve the issue of a lack of decent cover for the fullback positions

Replace Vidic and potentially also Ferdinand, which we can do by playing Smalling and Jones as CB but than we definitley have to make certain that we don't need them anymore on other positions (RB and Midfield)

If Nani and or Kagawa leave we'll need to look into a new winger

If RVP and Hernandez leave we'll need to bring in a new striker

Worst case scenario is we'll need around 7 new players: Striker, Winger, 2 Midfielders, CB, LB, RB

Striker however is very uncertain as we don't need to bring one in if RVP or Hernandez will still be here next season (you don't need more than 3 strikers). We might even only let them go if we have a good replacement ligned up. For example Moyes might only let RVP go if he has gotten Cavani for example.

For the winger, I think it is likely we'll get one. I don't think Moyes is happy with Valencia, Nani and Young, I can see Valencia and Young staying but hopefully only as squad players. For the rest it depends on the tactics if he wants to play with wingers that cut inside he might be happy with Mata, Januzaj and kagawa, so alot will depend on what role he sees for Kagawa and how happy he is with him, I guess the last couple of matches this season we'll teach us more on that respect. Might also depend on if there are any players available that prove to be an upgrade on what we have. However I think it is likely we'll get one, Griezmann, Lucas, Gaitan, perhaps Turan, Di Maria or Xhaqiri. However I don't think we'll be able to get Reus from Dortmund.

Midfielders we'll definitley get one (defensive controlling midfielder) and we'll be looking to bring in two but only if we find the right player. I think we'll only go for a second midfielder if we find a real playmaker in the mould of Scholes like Kroos or Rakitic for example. If we don't find the right player I think we might just settle for a defensive midfielder and convert to a 4-2-3-1 with Mata or Kagawa as the nr10 to provide the nesc creativity from the center (the defensive midfielder can partner Carrick or Fellaini).

CB I think we'll only spend big on one if the right player is available like Benatia or Mangala, if they prove to be unachievable than I think we'll solve the departure of Vidic in another way. Smalling and Jones will definitely need to become fulltime CB (which is also the reason why we definitley need to sign a def midfielder and provide a new cover for the RB). We may just sign a CB purly as a cover option if he won't cost too much money, I can't see us spending alot of money on players that won't provide anything extra on what we don't currently already have with Smalling, Jones and Evans. If we don't find any suitable player to sign up we might just chose to take up Keane as a coverup player and decide to spend our money on other positions.

For the fullback postions we'll definitley sign a new leftback be it Coentrao, Baines, Shaw or somebody else like Moreno, Sandro or Luis. We'll also need players to cover for Rafael and whoever we sign as first choice lefttback (we can't play Smalling anymore on RB and I'am also not sure we are really happy with Büttner). If we settle for Büttner we might just sign a player for the rightback, if we don't settle for Büttner we might also sign two players one for leftback and one for right back, we might also not sign another rightback at all but promote Varela for that position or we might solve both positions at once by signing a versatile fullback like Santon or De Sciglio who can play both as leftback or rightback.
 
Yeah and I agree with that point, but the fact Mata would struggle in that sort of system means I'd be surprised if we tried it too often as he'll be a crucial cog in the side for years.
I don't think he'd struggle at all in that system. He's a very quick thinker on the ball and that's the most important part for a counter attacking teams, having players who don't need to take 4-5 touches to release a pass and be able to break at pace. Similarly with Kagawa who was great for Dortmund and their counter attacking style, yet at United he hasn't shown that yet for various reasons that are being argued in his thread. We just need some players with pace and good movement though to give options for Mata to release the ball to.
 
What kind of numbers are leaving and arriving this summer.Heading for the exit are Rio,Vidic and Giggs for sure.Then probably Evra and one or two of Nani,Tony V and young and then there's Hernandez,Shinji and Buttner.So i'd say a minimum of 6 leaving and probably 5 coming in and the promotion of youth! It's gonna be hilarious on here and I can't wait!!
 
I personally want this next year.

------------DDG
Rafael--Ginter--Hummels--Evra
----------Carvalho
-----Kroos-------Gundogan
-Mata-----Rooney-------Reus

Defense:

De Sciglio (£10-15M): A very good young RB/LB for Milan I think if the right offer came in they would listen, they are 10th in Serie A right now, I think they have struggled in recent years.

Ginter (£10-15M):
very capable young CB capable of playing CDM, he's one for the future but I think he's also ready to play at a higher level than he is currently although in the bundesliga for Freiburg.

Hummels (£30M):
He is for me the best CB in europe aside from Thiago Silva, for his age, however him leaving Dortmund is unlikely, plus being able to snatch 3 Dortmund players is even harder, so that's why I put the price of £30M on his head, he reads the game so well, he can pass from the back, in my eyes much better than Rio Ferdinand could in his prime, Hummels would just make our defense look so calm and composed, it's his mentality and that would really calm things up at the back, also would be a perfect mentor for Jones/Smalling/Ginter, also they could rotate freely too.

Midfield:

William Carvalho (£30M):
Reads the game so well, having him in the squad gives a good balance between attack and defence, he anticipates and reads the game very well also patrols an area of the field where is most dangerous to the team (around the edge of the box) to block shots and make key interceptions he has good passing ability, can tackle and will be a threat on set pieces too, he's also very young and would learn from the likes of Rooney, Kroos around him (if kroos were to come) he would learn how to pass better and also be a better all round player).

Toni Kroos (£40M): Capable of controlling a football game, much like Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes, spreads the play well and always looks for the forward pass, retains the ball very well and would be a key component to the team, transforming the midfield, downside to Toni Kroos is he's not the most aggressive into tackles so with him on the team you would need a player like Carvalho, or even Jones/Ginter/Fellaini in the midfield.

İlkay Gündoğan (£30M): Great potential he's very mobile, good with his feet and can be a box to box player to support the attacks he can dribble, pass, his goal scoring record isn't the best but he's more of a player who keeps the play ticking over in the build up to the goal, he's a very neat and tidy player that I'm sure will be a fan favourite very early on (his dream club was Manchester United in 2011 before joining Dortmund, not only that he has one year on his contract left, and Dortmund don't want him leaving on a free as Lewandowski is this summer, he will most likely be sold in the summer).

Midfield Overview: These three in the midfield, I liken much to Barcelona in their play style, Carvalho a ball winner (Busquets), Kroos (Xavi), Gundogan (Iniesta) in how they operate within the team not only this but they are all below 24 years of age, (Kroos 24 this january) meaning they have 6-8 years to give to the team, that's a lot of trophies and also competing for Champions Leagues with a midfield of those 3, it's a perfect balance also can win big games for us.

What this midfield does too is it gives room to rotate, Fellaini can fill in for Gundogan in some games as box to box, or even in the CDM, so could Ginter or Jones in CDM, Gundogan is capable of playing in Kroos position, so is Carrick, it's very flexible in how the team sets up if a player needed a rest.

Attack:

Marco Reus (£30M): He has a buyout clause active in the summer of 2015 of 35M Euro, so could possibly be tempted this summer if the right offer comes in, he's a modern winger, capable of playing up top as a striker, or on the wing, he's clinical and he's also blisteringly fast, having him in the team would enable for quick counter attacks (Which dortmund are famous for).

Rooney: In the system I put above he's capable of dropping deeper to pick up the ball if it was required with inverted wingers, but he would be in his favoured position here, the team would be very flexible with systems with the players I put.

Januzaj/Mata
: I do think these two players are capable of playing through the middle, as is Reus, having these players as our forward options would allow for rotation making it hard to pick up defensively.

Total Spend before Outgoings = £180M

These would be my buys personally, makes us have a dominant but balanced team, world-class across the board, there's alternatives in players like Turan (Atletico), Griezmann (Sociedad), Koke (Atletico), Benatia (Roma) but I don't think they would bring the same balance to the table and they just don't have that special something to their game as the players above do.

I personally would love to make way with a lot of players for the line up above, with some staying as squad players, I think that would set our team up for many leagues and even champions leagues to come.
 
My first Summer window in the mains. I will lead a sad, muppet-induced existence.

I don't know why, but today is the first time I've been excited for the Summer. I'm praying that Moyes and Woodward have got things sorted. Mayhem on the Caf.
 
We've heard from the likes of Keane, Schmikes and all the so called expert that we need 5-6 players this summer but has anyone specified which positions?

LB - Shaw/Coentrao
CB - Who knows...
DM - Carvalho
CM - Kroos
CM - Gundogan
LW - Reus

Imagine...
 
LB - Shaw/Coentrao
CB - Who knows...
DM - Carvalho
CM - Kroos
CM - Gundogan
LW - Reus

Imagine...

If we got the bottom 4 you mentioned it would just set us up for so many more years, the CB position is the tough one, City, Barca, Chelsea all need a CB this summer.
 
It is incredibly tiresome to see Reus on so many peoples transferlist. You might as well add Ronaldo and Messi to your transferlist because there is about as much chance we sign them as that we sign Reus this summer.

Borussia Dortmund has already publicly stated they won't be selling him and Reus has already said he has no intention on leaving Dortmund. The clause in his contract only kicks in from the summer of 2015, so this window there won't be any movement on Reus whatsoever, just forget that name, he is completley unachievable for us and if you are hoping on him joining us this summer (definitley with no CL) than you will be severley disappointed.
 
It is incredibly tiresome to see Reus on so many peoples transferlist. You might as well add Ronaldo and Messi to your transferlist because there is about as much chance we sign them as that we sign Reus this summer.

Borussia Dortmund has already publicly stated they won't be selling him and Reus has already said he has no intention on leaving Dortmund. The clause in his contract only kicks in from the summer of 2015, so this window there won't be any movement on Reus whatsoever, just forget that name, he is completley unachievable for us and if you are hoping on him joining us this summer (definitley with no CL) than you will be severley disappointed.

It's possible if there's a bid over the buyout clause, but it doesn't make financial sense for clubs do to that (still its achieveable), there are players like Griezmann but not on Reus level.
 
It's possible if there's a bid over the buyout clause, but it doesn't make financial sense for clubs do to that (still its achieveable), there are players like Griezmann but not on Reus level.

As I said Dortmund said they won't consider selling him at all. The only way you would change that stance if you'd made such a ridiculously high offer for him that Dortmund would be mad not to accept it. Looking at last year with Neymar and Bale you kinda get the idea on what would constitue a ridiculous offer these days. In case of Reus I think about offers in the general area of around £60-£70m atleast (probably more) to make Dortmund change their mind on this (they are very determined not to let another star player go this summer).

Even if you managed to convince Dortmund on selling Reus this summer than still you would have to convince Reus on joining and I don't think he'd want to. He is better off at Dortmund under Klopp than at United under Moyes, if he joins he'll be giving up CL football next season and he knows if he wanted to leave Dortmund in the future (and I think he will) there will be plenty more opportunities for him than United. He knows if he wants to make a move he can do so next year when the clause kicks in and he'll probably get to cherrypick the topclubs because of that clause. In short there is absolutley no reason whatsoever Reus would be joining us in the summer, there is no short term gain for him and there is also no long term gain for him because if he waits he can make a better move next year.

I can't think off any remotley realistic scenario where we might end up siging Reus in the summer, definitley not for the amounts of money I see some people posting here (£30m, yea right...). The club won't be mad enough to offer the kind of money it would take to make Dortmund change their mind and even if they did the chance that Reus would want to come is so small you might aswell call it unexistent. I'am sorry for being a funkill but Reus is not happening this Summer, forget about him because if you don't it will end in disappointment.
 
I personally want this next year.

------------DDG
Rafael--Ginter--Hummels--Evra
----------Carvalho
-----Kroos-------Gundogan
-Mata-----Rooney-------Reus

Defense:

De Sciglio (£10-15M): A very good young RB/LB for Milan I think if the right offer came in they would listen, they are 10th in Serie A right now, I think they have struggled in recent years.
Ginter (£10-15M): very capable young CB capable of playing CDM, he's one for the future but I think he's also ready to play at a higher level than he is currently although in the bundesliga for Freiburg.

Hummels (£30M):
He is for me the best CB in europe aside from Thiago Silva, for his age, however him leaving Dortmund is unlikely, plus being able to snatch 3 Dortmund players is even harder, so that's why I put the price of £30M on his head, he reads the game so well, he can pass from the back, in my eyes much better than Rio Ferdinand could in his prime, Hummels would just make our defense look so calm and composed, it's his mentality and that would really calm things up at the back, also would be a perfect mentor for Jones/Smalling/Ginter, also they could rotate freely too.

Midfield:

William Carvalho (£30M):
Reads the game so well, having him in the squad gives a good balance between attack and defence, he anticipates and reads the game very well also patrols an area of the field where is most dangerous to the team (around the edge of the box) to block shots and make key interceptions he has good passing ability, can tackle and will be a threat on set pieces too, he's also very young and would learn from the likes of Rooney, Kroos around him (if kroos were to come) he would learn how to pass better and also be a better all round player).

Toni Kroos (£40M): Capable of controlling a football game, much like Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes, spreads the play well and always looks for the forward pass, retains the ball very well and would be a key component to the team, transforming the midfield, downside to Toni Kroos is he's not the most aggressive into tackles so with him on the team you would need a player like Carvalho, or even Jones/Ginter/Fellaini in the midfield.

İlkay Gündoğan (£30M): Great potential he's very mobile, good with his feet and can be a box to box player to support the attacks he can dribble, pass, his goal scoring record isn't the best but he's more of a player who keeps the play ticking over in the build up to the goal, he's a very neat and tidy player that I'm sure will be a fan favourite very early on (his dream club was Manchester United in 2011 before joining Dortmund, not only that he has one year on his contract left, and Dortmund don't want him leaving on a free as Lewandowski is this summer, he will most likely be sold in the summer).

Midfield Overview: These three in the midfield, I liken much to Barcelona in their play style, Carvalho a ball winner (Busquets), Kroos (Xavi), Gundogan (Iniesta) in how they operate within the team not only this but they are all below 24 years of age, (Kroos 24 this january) meaning they have 6-8 years to give to the team, that's a lot of trophies and also competing for Champions Leagues with a midfield of those 3, it's a perfect balance also can win big games for us.

What this midfield does too is it gives room to rotate, Fellaini can fill in for Gundogan in some games as box to box, or even in the CDM, so could Ginter or Jones in CDM, Gundogan is capable of playing in Kroos position, so is Carrick, it's very flexible in how the team sets up if a player needed a rest.

Attack:

Marco Reus (£30M): He has a buyout clause active in the summer of 2015 of 35M Euro, so could possibly be tempted this summer if the right offer comes in, he's a modern winger, capable of playing up top as a striker, or on the wing, he's clinical and he's also blisteringly fast, having him in the team would enable for quick counter attacks (Which dortmund are famous for).

Rooney: In the system I put above he's capable of dropping deeper to pick up the ball if it was required with inverted wingers, but he would be in his favoured position here, the team would be very flexible with systems with the players I put.
Januzaj/Mata: I do think these two players are capable of playing through the middle, as is Reus, having these players as our forward options would allow for rotation making it hard to pick up defensively.

Total Spend before Outgoings = £180M

These would be my buys personally, makes us have a dominant but balanced team, world-class across the board, there's alternatives in players like Turan (Atletico), Griezmann (Sociedad), Koke (Atletico), Benatia (Roma) but I don't think they would bring the same balance to the table and they just don't have that special something to their game as the players above do.

I personally would love to make way with a lot of players for the line up above, with some staying as squad players, I think that would set our team up for many leagues and even champions leagues to come.

Jaysus.
 
I personally want this next year.

------------DDG
Rafael--Ginter--Hummels--Evra
----------Carvalho
-----Kroos-------Gundogan
-Mata-----Rooney-------Reus

Defense:

De Sciglio (£10-15M): A very good young RB/LB for Milan I think if the right offer came in they would listen, they are 10th in Serie A right now, I think they have struggled in recent years.
Ginter (£10-15M): very capable young CB capable of playing CDM, he's one for the future but I think he's also ready to play at a higher level than he is currently although in the bundesliga for Freiburg.

Hummels (£30M):
He is for me the best CB in europe aside from Thiago Silva, for his age, however him leaving Dortmund is unlikely, plus being able to snatch 3 Dortmund players is even harder, so that's why I put the price of £30M on his head, he reads the game so well, he can pass from the back, in my eyes much better than Rio Ferdinand could in his prime, Hummels would just make our defense look so calm and composed, it's his mentality and that would really calm things up at the back, also would be a perfect mentor for Jones/Smalling/Ginter, also they could rotate freely too.

Midfield:

William Carvalho (£30M):
Reads the game so well, having him in the squad gives a good balance between attack and defence, he anticipates and reads the game very well also patrols an area of the field where is most dangerous to the team (around the edge of the box) to block shots and make key interceptions he has good passing ability, can tackle and will be a threat on set pieces too, he's also very young and would learn from the likes of Rooney, Kroos around him (if kroos were to come) he would learn how to pass better and also be a better all round player).

Toni Kroos (£40M): Capable of controlling a football game, much like Xavi, Pirlo, Scholes, spreads the play well and always looks for the forward pass, retains the ball very well and would be a key component to the team, transforming the midfield, downside to Toni Kroos is he's not the most aggressive into tackles so with him on the team you would need a player like Carvalho, or even Jones/Ginter/Fellaini in the midfield.

İlkay Gündoğan (£30M): Great potential he's very mobile, good with his feet and can be a box to box player to support the attacks he can dribble, pass, his goal scoring record isn't the best but he's more of a player who keeps the play ticking over in the build up to the goal, he's a very neat and tidy player that I'm sure will be a fan favourite very early on (his dream club was Manchester United in 2011 before joining Dortmund, not only that he has one year on his contract left, and Dortmund don't want him leaving on a free as Lewandowski is this summer, he will most likely be sold in the summer).

Midfield Overview: These three in the midfield, I liken much to Barcelona in their play style, Carvalho a ball winner (Busquets), Kroos (Xavi), Gundogan (Iniesta) in how they operate within the team not only this but they are all below 24 years of age, (Kroos 24 this january) meaning they have 6-8 years to give to the team, that's a lot of trophies and also competing for Champions Leagues with a midfield of those 3, it's a perfect balance also can win big games for us.

What this midfield does too is it gives room to rotate, Fellaini can fill in for Gundogan in some games as box to box, or even in the CDM, so could Ginter or Jones in CDM, Gundogan is capable of playing in Kroos position, so is Carrick, it's very flexible in how the team sets up if a player needed a rest.

Attack:

Marco Reus (£30M): He has a buyout clause active in the summer of 2015 of 35M Euro, so could possibly be tempted this summer if the right offer comes in, he's a modern winger, capable of playing up top as a striker, or on the wing, he's clinical and he's also blisteringly fast, having him in the team would enable for quick counter attacks (Which dortmund are famous for).

Rooney: In the system I put above he's capable of dropping deeper to pick up the ball if it was required with inverted wingers, but he would be in his favoured position here, the team would be very flexible with systems with the players I put.
Januzaj/Mata: I do think these two players are capable of playing through the middle, as is Reus, having these players as our forward options would allow for rotation making it hard to pick up defensively.

Total Spend before Outgoings = £180M

These would be my buys personally, makes us have a dominant but balanced team, world-class across the board, there's alternatives in players like Turan (Atletico), Griezmann (Sociedad), Koke (Atletico), Benatia (Roma) but I don't think they would bring the same balance to the table and they just don't have that special something to their game as the players above do.

I personally would love to make way with a lot of players for the line up above, with some staying as squad players, I think that would set our team up for many leagues and even champions leagues to come.

Man you are going to be left disappointed at the end of the summer

My personal sigings if I'd be living in the same (dream)world as you would be: Marcelo, Thiago Silva, Dani Alves, Modric, Yaya Touré and Ronaldo for the summer.
 
Man you are going to be left disappointed at the end of the summer

My personal sigings if I'd be living in the same (dream)world as you would be: Marcelo, Thiago Silva, Dani Alves, Modric, Yaya Touré and Ronaldo for the summer.

none of those are available though, the players I listed are available, I fail to see how it's a dream world? do you not understand how the players I listed have buyout clauses available in their contracts, are said to be interested or have a year left on their contract?

The only question mark in the list I put would be Hummels and De Sciglio, the rest are pretty much if you meet the right valuation, available, Reus has one more year left before a bidding war ensues for a set price, so any price over that threshold is a possibility his loyalty doesn't lie with Dortmund, although he criticises players for leaving for rivals like Bayern.

Gundogan = 1 year left on his contract, will be sold in the summer.
Kroos = 1 Year left on his contract it's pretty likely he will be leaving in the summer.
Carvalho = At sporting wants to leave for a bigger club
Reus = Buyout clause active, club would potentially listen to higher offers.

Say how it is unrealistic that given the right offers with £200M to spend that a club cannot sanction those kind of moves, if it were a talisman of the squad perhaps, but only if they were a spanish giant would they refuse, it is also down to the players and their desires.
 
none of those are available though, the players I listed are available, I fail to see how it's a dream world? do you not understand how the players I listed have buyout clauses available in their contracts, are said to be interested or have a year left on their contract?

The only question mark in the list I put would be Hummels and De Sciglio, the rest are pretty much if you meet the right valuation, available, Reus has one more year left before a bidding war ensues for a set price, so any price over that threshold is a possibility his loyalty doesn't lie with Dortmund, although he criticises players for leaving for rivals like Bayern.

Gundogan = 1 year left on his contract, will be sold in the summer.
Kroos = 1 Year left on his contract it's pretty likely he will be leaving in the summer.
Carvalho = At sporting wants to leave for a bigger club
Reus = Buyout clause active, club would potentially listen to higher offers.

Say how it is unrealistic that given the right offers with £200M to spend that a club cannot sanction those kind of moves, if it were a talisman of the squad perhaps, but only if they were a spanish giant would they refuse, it is also down to the players and their desires.

On what planet do Dortmund allow their four best players to leave in one summer?
 
On what planet do Dortmund allow their four best players to leave in one summer?

It depends on their transfer targets, I don't think Hummels will decide to leave, but Reus and Gundogan I can see as a possibility.

The reason I did list Hummels was for the reason that many clubs in Europe this summer need a defender, Barcelona do, Chelsea do, Liverpool do, Man City do, and they all have a lot of money to spend, Mangala there will be a bidding war for, there's not many quality centre backs in europe to go for, Hummels is in that bracket, not many defenders out there who are calm enough to pick a pass either.

Lewandowski is leaving on a free transfer, they see no money from that, so the question is how do you rebuild a squad with only champions league revenue, dortmund aren't the most profitable club so they buy young, or buy players from that league, clubs like Dortmund sell at the right price, if they didn't want to sell then they would not have clauses on their contract or negotiate for contracts a little sooner instead of letting them run so low.
 
The same planet in which a club spends 180m in one window. Pretty sure only Madrid have done that, once. But that was due to the freak Ronaldo fee.

EDIT: The whole transfer record for the premier league summer window is 630m. United would be spending 1/3 of that. I mean, come on.
 
The same planet in which a club spends 180m in one window. Pretty sure only Madrid have done that, once. But that was due to the freak Ronaldo fee.

EDIT: The whole transfer record for the premier league summer window is 630m. United would be spending 1/3 of that. I mean, come on.

The squad needs refreshing and there are a lot of departures in that squad, it's going to be a transfer window which sees 4-5 come in and equally 2-4 go out, I don't think I'll be the one who's disappointed in the summer, because the club knows its ambitions the scouting trips haven't just been for nothing, there are targets this is the summer where he buys a few key players and fleshes out the spine of the squad in latter seasons, this is a rebuilding process, there's a list of areas in the squad which never have been replaced.

Scholes, never replaced.
Giggs, never replaced
Ferdinand, Vidic, never replaced.
Ronaldo, never replaced.

Thats 5 key players who were never replaced, we had world-class players and replaced them with squad players, and this season is showing it, the coaching staff know that, and people saying "it's the same squad that won it last year" it isn't true, Scholes retired, and a lot of our senior players have aged, become slightly more injury prone and they're past their prime.

Plus on-top of that, all the rivals in the league has strengthened considerably, have more strength in depth, so there is the point where they strengthen even more next summer... meaning the squad needs work, and it does need a considerable investment if Man Utd is to rally a title challenge next year.
 
So Moyes will have spent 240m in 3 windows. I just can't see it.

He's already spent more in a season than Fergie ever has. He'd be tripling the amount Fergie ever spent in a season in one window.
 
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So Moyes will have spent 240m in 3 windows. I just can't see it.

Don't forget we are likely to sell some players that will get us atleast decent money.

Kagawa
Chicharito
RvP
Valencia/Young
Nani
Anderson

Together that should make 40-50m in sells alone. Don't forget that Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra will leave on a free. The times of a huge squad like we had under SAF are over. With that our annual wage bill should decrease quite dramatically and I see Moyes spending atleast 100m this summer. According to many journalists and pundits like Cappello we had a bid for Bale accepted but he turned us down. Times are changing.
 
Times are changing, yes, but it's a dangerous strategy to go all out in one window. Look at Spurs.

How willing will the board be in giving all this money to Moyes? They've already let him spend 70m. I realise that for United getting into the CL is paramount but they might be cagey in giving him loads of cash, again.
 
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He won't and we won't.

@TheNewEra, you are in for a whole lot of disappointment if you think we are going to buy anywhere close to all this talent. Also, we don't need three new midfielders and 2 new central defenders.