I would have been happy if somebody else said it... at least then it might have some element of truth in it
Summer transfer window
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
I would have been happy if somebody else said it... at least then it might have some element of truth in it
Oh great if Balague is saying we have 200 million € to spend it means it's either 20 million € or 200 million yuan in reality.
I do think we'll be talking about spending 200m
No, I won't be happy to see Moyes spending it.
No, I won't be happy to see Moyes spending it.
I dont want us to spend anything with him in charge.
200m ... I'll believe it when I'll see it.
Think of how many Fellaini's that would buy us 
It's gonna be a leftback, a centreback, a midfielder and some sort of attacking player.
To replace Fabio, Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic, Anderson, Zaha, Kagawa, Nani, Giggs, and one of Van Persie or Hernandez. Maybe both.
To be fair, you do have way too many players attached. The worry is less about the numbers as it is who goes and who gets to stay (young/valencia ahead of kagawa/nani, vidic/ferdinand leaving behind jones/smalling).
The only way we'll come close to reaching that expense is if the 'right' players are available and others leave. I personally, would be happy with one of following 'linked' players: Vertonghen/Garay, Shaw/Alex Sandro/Ricardo Rodriguez, Axel Witsel/William Carvalho/Kevin Strootman, and Marco Reus/Antoine Griezmann(my favorite) - to replace the departed.
Of course, if there really was 200m to spend you wonder why a genius like Fergie either didn't want to spend it or wasn't allowed!
Why are we spending 200m to create a squad "even Moyes can win with", instead of trying to find a good manager who can win with the squad we already have (and already won things with)?
Brilliant.
it seems so anti-glazer to me as well
what would they suddenly start acting like oil barons throwing money around recklessly
I don't buy it
It's mental isn't it? People have just accepted that we basically need a squad so good a chimp could manage it and only then can we judge Moyes.
TBF, that's pretty much the last thing he'd have done, don't you think? He was waging a one-man war against the crazy money in football during those last years. And he was winning, too.
Yeah I always wonder that. It's like the board are willing to give him whatever money he needs to negate his obvious lack of talent, instead of just getting a good manager who would challenge for the title with what we already have. Basically what Moyes is telling us is that he needs a squad and starting 11 like what Bayern or Madrid have, just to qualify for the champions league, and we seem to be okay with that. Shocking really.
Are we thinking of appointing Bale?
I'd be disgusted if after this season Moyes got anything remotely close to £200m to spend so he could get them to compete for top 4.
I agree with you 100% Moyes is not a catastrophe waiting to happen he is one that has already happened. I am amazed that he is still manager and I question the mental integrity of the club.
I think £200m is about what is needed to get these squad back to a level where it competes on all fronts.
Two top quality CMs - £80m would be a decent budget for that.
Quality CB - Easily £30m
Leftback - The kid Shaw would cost £25-30m
Winger - £40m
So you would have change from £200m but not much.
People who think those figures are inflated in anyway are simply out of touch. Just look at the fees paid in the last two years and think about the sort of caliber players we really need.
Moyes has done terrible - worse than we could imagine. But this isn't Moyes team - Hopefully he can build one himself with better quality in it. Let's see - we're going to have to, either way as he is not going anywhere and will get the summer.
Two top quality CMs - £80m would be a decent budget for that.
Quality CB - Easily £30m
Leftback - The kid Shaw would cost £25-30m
Winger - £40m
So you would have change from £200m but not much.
People who think those figures are inflated in anyway are simply out of touch. Just look at the fees paid in the last two years and think about the sort of caliber players we really need.
Moyes has done terrible - worse than we could imagine. But this isn't Moyes team - Hopefully he can build one himself with better quality in it. Let's see - we're going to have to, either way as he is not going anywhere and will get the summer.
You're so annoying with your attitude, our teams is all right and we don't need £200m spending.
I think we all know what Moyes in doing on his iPad in his new bunker:
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Do we need a winger in this transfer window? Valencia and Young are obviously awful (for the level we want to at at least) but even ignoring them, in terms of the three or four attacking places on the pitch we'd still theoretically have Mata, Kagawa, Giggs, Januzaj, Nani, Zaha and Lingard to rotate with the gruesome twosome to play around the strikers (depending on formation) - these might already be too many players to keep satisfied with a season of just 38 league games and however many Premier League sides we manage to get past in the domestic cup draws.
Of course if some of them leave (Kagawa and Nani probably, maybe Zaha and Lingard either on loan or permanently?) I suppose we'd have the space in the squad, but I think that might be too many new faces to settle in at once - the other positions you highlight there should be the priority, centre-back especially as we amazingly seem to survive whenever we ignore the central-midfield but the defence has been shocking this season and will lack numbers next season (even if Michael Keane is promoted).
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I see no reason for not including Giggs in the 'may potentially leave' list. He is the least likely of the players you mentioned to be there next season.
Fair enough - I didn't include him given how unique he is, and as we've heard nothing about his future either-way (he's close to 1,000 games for the club, but he's hardly playing any more anyway). I think we're unlikely to allow all those attackers to leave at once, but even so I would be concerned about bringing in too many new faces at once. For me, the defence and midfield should be the priority.
Thank goodness that guy isn't in control of our budget, we'd be broke within about a year.
Two of our Targets in Pjanic and Benatia have been invited by the PSG owner Nasser Al-Khelaifi to watch the game between PSG vs OM
We just CAN'T compete. Once those two sit down and watch our match....
We just CAN'T compete. Once those two sit down and watch our match....
Meh, wasn't overly interested in either myself.
someone twitter them they will have no european football soon enough
A shame, both would be perfect for us (we'd still need a more defensive midfielder but that's besides the point). Both top class players for sure though.
Has Moyes been to Italy this season? He's frequented Germany and Spain.
PSG have built a great team by almost exclusively pillaging Serie A talent.
He was at the Juve/Cagliari game last month.
Cheers, he certainly enjoys Germany anyway.
I think that is a complement to Moyes. He even said at Everton that he would like to manage in Germany.
He knows that Germany are advancing in the footballing world .
€50m?? Is that a sensible fee?
I wouldn't pay it.
Indeed made smart use of the financial situation at Milan to get Thiago Silva and Ibrahimovic at discount prices. They added Lavezzi and Cavani from Napoli, Motta from Inter and took a gamble that paid off with signing Verratti from Pescara. Signed Sirigu and Pastore from Palermo and added centreback toptalent Marquinhos from Roma.
Like 90% off their team comes from signing Serie A players.