Who are we getting? The suspense is killing me!!!!
Summer Transfer Window 2017
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Don't get hyped up, you'll be left disappointed.
Unfortunately, I don't know enough about European football any more. All I can do is comment on some of the names you've included in your top 11.
I thing De Gea/Romero, Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Rojo, Pogba, Herrera, Mkhitaryan, Mata, Rashford make a decent squad. Costa hasn't done much of note and any other new buys will depend on how they adjust to the Premiership. Mourinho bought very well last year so I feel confident he will do well again this summer especially, if he can get his first choice targets.
Get a crate of whiskey or learn yoga to help you through the summer.
If The Independent's reports of our 5 transfer targets is true, and it seems possible as we are negotiating with all 5 then it would have been a good and interesting bit of trading.
Strikers: OUT Zlatan & Rooney IN Belotti & Morata - as a combination this is clearly an upgrade
Wingers: OUT Depay & Januzaj IN Perisic - no matter your doubts about Perisic he will struggle to do worse than those leaving
CM: OUT Schneiderlin & Schweinsteiger IN Fabinho & Pereira - Definitely an upgrade and will give tactical options and ability to rotate and not rely on Fellaini too much
Defense: OUT Smalling IN Lindelof An upgrade in passing and end of hoofball
Seems LB is going to be unchanged but maybe a late bid for Tierney. Guess though we will see Shaw, CBJ and Mitchell get chances to shine esp. in pre-season for the kids.
All in all a good window which despite some bad luck (Zlatan, Griezmann, Mbappe) will still improve us a lot particularly in goal scoring.
Strikers: OUT Zlatan & Rooney IN Belotti & Morata - as a combination this is clearly an upgrade
Wingers: OUT Depay & Januzaj IN Perisic - no matter your doubts about Perisic he will struggle to do worse than those leaving
CM: OUT Schneiderlin & Schweinsteiger IN Fabinho & Pereira - Definitely an upgrade and will give tactical options and ability to rotate and not rely on Fellaini too much
Defense: OUT Smalling IN Lindelof An upgrade in passing and end of hoofball
Seems LB is going to be unchanged but maybe a late bid for Tierney. Guess though we will see Shaw, CBJ and Mitchell get chances to shine esp. in pre-season for the kids.
All in all a good window which despite some bad luck (Zlatan, Griezmann, Mbappe) will still improve us a lot particularly in goal scoring.
Getting a little bit worried about the lack of movement in the midfield department, we haven't had any serious link to anybody.
Fellaini, Herrera, Pogba and Carrick aren't going to win us the league. We need a solid midfielder in there with them.
I'd also like to see a new left back being mentioned, Shaw looks like he could be the type of player who spends more time on the physio's table than playing.
Fellaini, Herrera, Pogba and Carrick aren't going to win us the league. We need a solid midfielder in there with them.
I'd also like to see a new left back being mentioned, Shaw looks like he could be the type of player who spends more time on the physio's table than playing.
If we signed the five Delaney wrote about yesterday, I think that would be some very good improvement of the squad.
Linked with Fabinho again yesterday, as well as by Di Marzio's crew earlier in the summer. Could see that happening potentially.
I agree, however I think it is a sure thing that we will get a holding midfielder.
What worries me the most is that we will not get any more attacking players apart from Morata. Supposedly, Morata is the replacement for Zlatan. Where is the replacement for Griezmann? Don't tell me it is Perisic, no problem if Mourinho wants him, however we need one more player in the type of Alexis Sanchez (wish he could be the one), who can help us with the lack of goals. Otherwise I don't see much individual improvement than last year's team.
James could be a good shout, even though he is more of a 10. But better than nobody.
What worries me the most is that we will not get any more attacking players apart from Morata. Supposedly, Morata is the replacement for Zlatan. Where is the replacement for Griezmann? Don't tell me it is Perisic, no problem if Mourinho wants him, however we need one more player in the type of Alexis Sanchez (wish he could be the one), who can help us with the lack of goals. Otherwise I don't see much individual improvement than last year's team.
James could be a good shout, even though he is more of a 10. But better than nobody.
Is it possible that smalling and jones will survive another transfer window?
Surely 20 mil for smalling and 10-15 mil for jones any PL club can afford
Surely 20 mil for smalling and 10-15 mil for jones any PL club can afford
I can't see us signing two big money strikers when we play a one striker system (and nor should we) and I think Perisic wouldn't improve us much either.
Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
To me that looks like a hard working team that will work well as a unit and will be difficult to beat, but again lacking goals. The front 3 have the ability to score about 40 goals total, which isn't enough.
You don't think Pogba will play no.8 rather than no.10? That seems to be his best position, but would leave us needing a no.10Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
For me that team isn't anywhere near good enough, on paper at least. Who knows what Jose can manage though.Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
I agree, I really like the balance of the midfield and defence, especially if we add a quality LB, but the wide areas of the attack are sorely lacking in a bit of creative magic and a potential 20 goal output.
If we buy Fabinho I think we'll play a 3 man midfield and IMO an unshackled Pogba will do more for us than any #10 we could buy right now.
Good shout
Fabinho in terms of age and potential is of course a very good defensive midfield option but out of all available midfielders out there I'd love Nainggolan. He'll give us real energy and thrust but also score goals from midfield, something we've lacked for a while.
Fabinho will strengthen us and make us more difficult to beat but I don't think he'll take us to that next level we keep talking about. I don't think that he'll provide much more than what Herrera has done in that position in the short term at least. We shall see, happy to be proven wrong as always.
Fabinho will strengthen us and make us more difficult to beat but I don't think he'll take us to that next level we keep talking about. I don't think that he'll provide much more than what Herrera has done in that position in the short term at least. We shall see, happy to be proven wrong as always.
I don't get this argument about unshackling Pogba. It's an absolute myth. He's played in a 3 man midfield many times this season. I also don't buy the theory that in that 3 man midfield because he had Herrera and Fellaini instead of X (insert any defensive midfield player that you think is better) that he was somehow weighed down in an attacking sense. Whoever we bring in next season is not going to allow Pogba to have less defensive responsibility especially in a Jose Mourinho team.
Imo you'll see the best of Pogba in an attacking sense if he has better/quicker ATTACK minded players around him to link up with.
Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
The problem with that midfield is that you need an absolute blast of a front 3 to make it work because it lacks a proper attacking midfielder to support that front 3. Pogba just isn't that type of player for me, he is worldclass but just not that type of player.
This team will be hard to beat but it will also struggle unlocking defences and it has a serious lack of goals in it. It is an improvement on what we have had this season but not by much. It really lacks a good playmaker who can unlock games.
According to twitter. Jose wants ADM to return.
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I kind of agree with that. Herrera has been excellent in pretty much a #6 role. Another attacking mid with flair would take the attention from Pogba and give him a chop out. It would allow us to attack with menace from deeper on the pitch.
Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
It doesn't excite me right now when I look at it.
A left back who isn't a left back and no pace as well.
I haven't watched Lindelof at all so I don't know how to describe my feeling after we announced that we signed him.
Wingers looked meh and striker isn't a world class. Looked very dodgy when I compare that front three with Real, Chelsea, City, Barcelona, Bayern attackers.
Since the front three are dodgy, the midfield turn into meh in my eyes since there are 2 defensive mind of midfielder (Herrera and Fabinho) with a midfielder who can't score 15+ goals (Pogba).
However, that XI looked very good for parking the bus though
I think if we can field both Rashford and Morata together, that's probably will excite me more. Two young players with pace, attackers and great link up play.
Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
What this team is lacking is Sanchez on the LW. Add a quality player like that and it suddenly transforms the feel of the team. We need to do everything we can to get a gamechanger like Sanchez - he's the player that can add 20+ goals and 10 assists from the wing.
Then we have guys like Martial, Rashford and Mata all to come on as very good impact players to cover the front 3 positions.
------------Morata----Bellotti-----------
-----------Pogba--------Herrera----------
------------------Fabinho---------------
Perisic-------------------------------Valencia
-------Rojo------Bailly-----Lindelof
------------------DDG-----------------
Deal with it xx
-----------Pogba--------Herrera----------
------------------Fabinho---------------
Perisic-------------------------------Valencia
-------Rojo------Bailly-----Lindelof
------------------DDG-----------------
Deal with it xx
I agree in general, but maybe the plan is to fix the defense and midfield this summer and then complete the attack next summer.
It doesn't excite me right now when I look at it.
A left back who isn't a left back and no pace as well.
I haven't watched Lindelof at all so I don't know how to describe my feeling after we announced that we signed him.
Wingers looked meh and striker isn't a world class. Looked very dodgy when I compare that front three with Real, Chelsea, City, Barcelona, Bayern attackers.
Since the front three are dodgy, the midfield turn into meh in my eyes since there are 2 defensive mind of midfielder (Herrera and Fabinho) with a midfielder who can't score 15+ goals (Pogba).
However, that XI looked very good for parking the bus though
I think if we can field both Rashford and Morata together, that's probably will excite me more. Two young players with pace, attackers and great link up play.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with Morata.
As far as Rashford goes, well he could end up in the LWF spot depending on what happens with the signings there.Yeah, adding in a true top class wide attacker would be the key, then the others can scrap it out for the alternate wide role and if none of them make it their own then we can reshuffle next summer. We miss that secondary top class goal threat like Sanchez, Hazard, Griezmann, Dybala, Reus, Robben etc....Even Dele Alli comes into the category.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with Morata.
It's not only about Morata though the idea of having those 3 attackers, any defenders from top club who see that XI before the season start will not be afraid with it. Perisic - Morata - Mkhy with combination of two defensive mind midfield (Fabinho and Herrera). The front three are at the moment look too small compare to the other top club's attackers and that's why it doesn't get me excited at all when I see it. That XI is relying on one player only to score a lot of goals.
At least if they see Rashford and Morata together the defenders will be afraid with their pace and they are pure attackers or forwards who wants to score goals not midfielder or attacking mid.
This is a solid team no doubt but nothing spectacular about it. It's missing one top attacker. But this is the best we can do right now.Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
Yep Mendy at left back or someone like him, and the defence is perfect. Not sure we actually are in for a left back though strangely. With the attack... If martial rediscovers his form and fulfills the potential, he would slot in that front 3 perfectly IMO. For the mean time though it'll be Perisic or someone who can be a winger.Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
Spot on.
Think that team looks very good and should challenge any team in the EPL. Also gives us a great platform to add to next season where we can spend big on 1-2 players as opposed to 4-5 that are needed in this window.
It would be strange to not address the LB situation, the forward line has availability problems but with LB I think there are a few options that could come in and give us a proper starter there who can attack as well as defend.
Unless for stronger team's away games, that 4-3-3 formation doesn't make any sense. Usually, most of our games we would play just a midfield two and add Rashford upfront.Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
Right now it's looking like the below is on the cards, I think the defense and midfield look good with hopefully a LB added as a 5th signing to really complete that back 4. I don't think the front 3 is good enough for more than a top 4 battle though, just not enough quality support for Morata and lacking in that bit of stardust you need from at least one wide player in a front 3.
That's what I think we should be looking at. Pogba with more freedom to roam on down the left, more width from our fullbacks and positions 1 and 2 are rotated between Morata, Belotti and Rashford. In a 60 game season with no injuries they could have 40 starts and 20 sub appearances each which they would all be happy with imo. That's a team with goals in it.
Morata and Belotti are both hard workers, Belotti doing dirty work and carrying forward from deep with Morata working the channels pulling centrebacks around and creating space in the middle. That midfield would be hard to beat but most importantly, the front line can break down defence with physical play, technical dribbling and in the air with two tall, strong and good in the air strikers.
The most important thing though Is that we are buying two proven goal scorers and goal scorers win league titles.
You're deluding yourself if you think Rashford won't be a starter, even if those two strikers come. And no, that 4-3-3 doesn't make any sense with these players.
That's what I think we should be looking at. Pogba with more freedom to roam on down the left, more width from our fullbacks and positions 1 and 2 are rotated between Morata, Belotti and Rashford. In a 60 game season with no injuries they could have 40 starts and 20 sub appearances each which they would all be happy with imo. That's a team with goals in it.
Morata and Belotti are both hard workers, Belotti doing dirty work and carrying forward from deep with Morata working the channels pulling centrebacks around and creating space in the middle. That midfield would be hard to beat but most importantly, the front line can break down defence with physical play, technical dribbling and in the air with two tall, strong and good in the air strikers.
The most important thing though Is that we are buying two proven goal scorers and goal scorers win league titles.
I think you're the one who is deluded if you think Rashford is a guaranteed starter. He isn't that good.
Of course he will be a starter, I've said he will and I want him to be. 60 games, 3 strikers for two positions = 40 starts each. Perfect.
We'll have to disagree on whether it would work or not, that 3 man midfield is a great blend. That defence is a great blend on paper and Mendy supplying crosses to Morata and Belotti is mouthwatering. As I said Morata (or Rashford) can run the channels well and Belotti can get stuck in and carry forward from deep. Pogba with a free run of the left channel and a fullback supporting is also where he has played his best football. Especially with two hard working midfielders dominating the middle with him.
It's pretty close to what Morata has been used to with Real and what Belotti is used to with Torino.
Maybe, but Mourinho clearly doesn't think so, and since he's the one choosing them...
I just think Mourinho is going to start from his initial trials of 4-2-3-1 earlier last season, with Pogba in a midfield two. No sense otherwise, if the team failed converting those enormous chances. He's going to crowd the attack, no way Herrera will be our 5th attacking man.