Summer Transfer Tweets 2016

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acrebo said:
People need to read the article - the picture may be unfortunate but he isn't even trying to hint that it could be JT. He cites numerous examples of the experience Jose usually likes in defence.
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It is not only Jose but every single manager who wants to succeed. I have been watching football for 25 years and I do not remember a successful team without a very experienced player in the back 5 (gk+defenders), more than 1 player most of the time...That is the backbone of the team and probably the area where we really need experience...
 
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andersj said:
I think its obvious that our central defenders is quite poor, but if we did not feel we could go for Smalling and Bailly, why did we buy Bailly? If we buy an experienced central defender there will be, including Jones, four players infront of Tuanzebe and Williams. How can we expect to develop these talents then?

Oh, and btw, Pepe is probably the experienced defender.
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Buying a new CB does not necessarily indicate a lack of faith in Bailly to partner Smalling. Many of the reports were that Bailly was going to be second fiddle to Jones anyway whilst he adapts to the English game.

You may argue that buying another center back leads to the same issue but you have to remember that Bailly is only 22 and was signed on the back of 40 apps for Villarreal. So for me, this suggests that we're in for an experienced CB in the ilk of a Bonnuci. Jose clearly has no confidence in Jones/Rojo if there's any truth in this article. As ultimately, there's a lot of growth left in Bailly - he's the same age as John Stones for crying out loud, who's lauded as 'one for the future.'
 
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Slavkov said:
Well, mate, first of all Barcelona do not play in the Premiership where 5-6 teams revert to long balls most of the time. Even Barca have used Pique as a centre forward towards the final minutes of some games due to his physical presence...That is what I am talking about.
Secondly, Maldini was a very strong physical player,, especially for a left back and he played the first 10 years of his career as a left back. Baresi was a really smart player, basically they both were. As far as the strong physical players, I do not mean that we need somebody who is above 2 metres, I am talking about physical presence. Saying that only Stam was our only player of that stature is not right in my opinion. Have you forgotten Rio, Vida, Pallister, Johnsen, etc., even Ronaldo was/is very dangerous on set pieces. Keano and Robbo, who you have mentioned were very strong physically as well. They had tremendous stamina and had huge physical presence in a game. We lack that at the moment. Fellaini is shite, I totally agree but still can do a job for us. As I have already mentioned if somebody wants to pay 20-30 million for him personally, I will bring him to the buyer...
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The only time Fellaini has been useful for us was when he played on the left coming in to win the ball in the air.....and that was truly dire football. You are talking about physicality of these players, Fellaini is only physical in his frame, especially in the elbow department and in the air. Big difference between a physical player and a physical specimen that is good in the air (not even that good) and can foul (as he can barely even tackle)

What you are saying above is basically the whole point anyway. Every player you mention had far more to there game than just a physical presence.....Fellaini simply doesnt, never wanted him, in fact if not obvious I really cant stand him in our shirt, talentless, dirty and no football brain whatsoever, why keep a player that the only use is as a big lump to push up for set pieces etc....we are not Jack Charltons Ireland ffs

Anyway, we are both agreeing he is shit, we arent agreeing on Maldini, he played far more than 10 years as a left back
 
jesperjaap said:
The only time Fellaini has been useful for us was when he played on the left coming in to win the ball in the air.....and that was truly dire football. You are talking about physicality of these players, Fellaini is only physical in his frame, especially in the elbow department and in the air. Big difference between a physical player and a physical specimen that is good in the air (not even that good) and can foul (as he can barely even tackle)

What you are saying above is basically the whole point anyway. Every player you mention had far more to there game than just a physical presence.....Fellaini simply doesnt, never wanted him, in fact if not obvious I really cant stand him in our shirt, talentless, dirty and no football brain whatsoever, why keep a player that the only use is as a big lump to push up for set pieces etc....we are not Jack Charltons Ireland ffs

Anyway, we are both agreeing he is shit, we arent agreeing on Maldini, he played far more than 10 years as a left back
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This is absolute hogwash

Fellaini played very well when we played some of our best football under Van Gaal.

Stop rewriting history. He had a very good 2014-15 season .
 
The Stain said:
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That didn't take long.

If we're going to loan him out it wouldn't actually be a bad move to send him there. At least we know Moyes rates him and will give him starts.

Where it leaves him in terms of his United career though would not be good. If he went there for the season, he'll come back with just a year of his contract left.

Big season for him, wherever he plays his football.
 
I am all for it. Would be a very good move in terms of playing time. Adnan needs to play in the PL week in week out.
 
Would be a good move, yeah. He'd get plenty of game time.

Now get Fellaini as well, Moyes-boy.
 
jesperjaap said:
The only time Fellaini has been useful for us was when he played on the left coming in to win the ball in the air.....and that was truly dire football. You are talking about physicality of these players, Fellaini is only physical in his frame, especially in the elbow department and in the air. Big difference between a physical player and a physical specimen that is good in the air (not even that good) and can foul (as he can barely even tackle)

What you are saying above is basically the whole point anyway. Every player you mention had far more to there game than just a physical presence.....Fellaini simply doesnt, never wanted him, in fact if not obvious I really cant stand him in our shirt, talentless, dirty and no football brain whatsoever, why keep a player that the only use is as a big lump to push up for set pieces etc....we are not Jack Charltons Ireland ffs

Anyway, we are both agreeing he is shit, we arent agreeing on Maldini, he played far more than 10 years as a left back
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Yes mate, I did not say it literally. You are absolutely right. I am just afraid that we lack that physical presence but I am 100% sure Mou will address it.

A nice reference of that Irish team :) :) :) they made it to the 1/4 in Italy though :) :) :)
 
Devil may care said:
feck that, buy Fellaini instead.
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Maybay he'll do both, Fellaini and Januzaj were really Moyes darlings when he was here.

I just don't know how cash strapped he is and how much money the club would want for Fellaini, if Fellaini actually does want to leave or if Mourinho has plans for him. What I don't doubt is that if he has the cash Moyes will definatley be interested. But it would be a massive step down for Fellaini and wages could be a problem aswell.
 
K2K said:
This is absolute hogwash

Fellaini played very well when we played some of our best football under Van Gaal.

Stop rewriting history. He had a very good 2014-15 season .
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Our best football under Van Gaal

Im assuming you mean those 5 or 6 games we played well consistently around the time of the Spurs game in Van Gaal's first season

Fellaini did well enough relatively speaking (awful under Moyes), had some good games under Van Gaal in season 1 and declined in season 2.....

Dont fool yourself - Fellaini is not a good footballer and certainly not good enough to play for us - he is one of our most limited footballers with no standout talent apart from his chest control

Poor passer, lacks bravery in decision making, is filthy and funnily enough isn't even that good in the air
 
K2K said:
This is absolute hogwash

Fellaini played very well when we played some of our best football under Van Gaal.

Stop rewriting history. He had a very good 2014-15 season .
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We never played good football for any consistant period of time under Van Gaal and I could count on one hand the number of games Fellaini has played "very well" the whole time he has been here...actually Tommy Two Fingers could...I think you are the one rewriting history.

That is all simply stating an opinion anyway rather than rewriting histroy, but if we are doing that then wtf are you on about the last three years will go down in history as one our our worst periods in 30 years in terms of performance, results & entertainment and I doubt anybody will look back with fond memories of Fellaini as a player.
 

Article says it could do with the fact he wants them to sign older players like Candreva and Yaya whereas the owner Thohir wants them to focus on younger players. I'm sure the possibility of Inter selling Icardi and Brozovic could also have something to do with Mancini throwing the toys out.
 
The Stain said:
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Really think that If Adnan believes in himself and Jose backs him, he can be a better 2nd choice left winger to Martial then Memphis can.

He should fight for his place against Memphis who i can't see being a United player for much longer then a season
 
settembrini said:
But every time he is asked about transfers he says that he wanted four and that's going to be Bailly, Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan and a midfielder, most likely Pogba.

If he wanted an experienced centre back he'd have bought one already, instead of Bailly.
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He said he we need to sign a nucleus of 4 key players - that doesn't necessarily means that's all we're buying.
 
I'd like to see Januzaj go on loan to Sunderland. I think Moyes would make him a regular starter and that's what he needs at this stage of his career. Can't see him featuring much for us.
 


And now Witsel. Prime candidate to replace Pogba. The push for the Zenit man resumes: the Belgian ace prefers Juve.
Everton are offering more, but Marotta can count on the player’s preference. As for Paul, no discounts for Man Utd: €120m
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Witsel Hernanes Sturoro in midfield while Marchisio and Khedira are out. Not great, but will take it.
 
buckooo1978 said:
Our best football under Van Gaal

Im assuming you mean those 5 or 6 games we played well consistently around the time of the Spurs game in Van Gaal's first season

Fellaini did well enough relatively speaking (awful under Moyes), had some good games under Van Gaal in season 1 and declined in season 2.....

Dont fool yourself - Fellaini is not a good footballer and certainly not good enough to play for us - he is one of our most limited footballers with no standout talent apart from his chest control

Poor passer, lacks bravery in decision making, is filthy and funnily enough isn't even that good in the air
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He was certainly better than Herrera last season

If anyone should be packing their bags first,it would be the latter

However he doesn't seem to suffer as much vitriol on here .

It's Jose's call. And all the noises coming from him are that Fellaini is going nowhere. He will not be influenced by the pitchfork job

And Fellaini played well in many games beyond that famous run. One of those games was Chelsea's game at Old Trafford where he was one of the standout performers . Jose will have seen that.
 
jesperjaap said:
We never played good football for any consistant period of time under Van Gaal and I could count on one hand the number of games Fellaini has played "very well" the whole time he has been here...actually Tommy Two Fingers could...I think you are the one rewriting history.

That is all simply stating an opinion anyway rather than rewriting histroy, but if we are doing that then wtf are you on about the last three years will go down in history as one our our worst periods in 30 years in terms of performance, results & entertainment and I doubt anybody will look back with fond memories of Fellaini as a player.
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You make it sound like Fellaini is solely responsible for our terrible 3 years.

Yet he has actually been one of those that actuallyvstood up to be counted when the going really got tough while the more fancied names toiled.

We have had very limited success in this three years ,but our only success can be really seen as winning the FA cup and qualifying for the UCL(It's relative success). It was Fellaini that scored the goal that sealed UCL qualification and added 6 other goals that season including one in the derby. It was Fellaini that got one of the crucial goals in the FA cup quarters .

He stands up to be counted. The best thing about him is that he doesn't seem to let the vitriol get to him. Like water of a ducks back. Good for him.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Could be a good move, actually. Whilst Sunderland will almost certainly be lingering around relegation, Moyes would quite likely give him a lot of game time.
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Yeah, I think it would be a good move - let's see if he can do it in the Premier League. But, Adnan will probably refuse it and opt for some cushy mid-table Serie A loan instead.
 
K2K said:
He was certainly better than Herrera last season

If anyone should be packing their bags first,it would be the latter

However he doesn't seem to suffer as much vitriol on here .

It's Jose's call. And all the noises coming from him are that Fellaini is going nowhere. He will not be influenced by the pitchfork job

And Fellaini played well in many games beyond that famous run. One of those games was Chelsea's game at Old Trafford where he was one of the standout performers . Jose will have seen that.
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A handful of good games shouldn't be good enough for any player to survive....

As for Herrera he was really disappointing last season....in his defence he barely played a consistent run of games and deserved more opportunities - Herrera has proved at United he is a far more effective and talented player than Fellaini

I have no idea why Jose would want to keep such a limited player as Fellaini but then again Mikel survived at Chelsea under him....Mikel was an efficient enough defensive midfielder against lesser teams though where Fellaini's only real strength is causing a bit of chaos in the last 10 when chasing a game...an expensive tactic considering what we paid in fees and ongoing wages

The big issue with Fellaini is that to get the best out of him you need to play a certain type of football...if Jose's game plan is Moyes at Everton i will eat my shoes

It's up to Jose but I will be very surprised if the Belgian survives - much prefer to see a more mobile and better footballer like Fosu-Mensah provide backup
 
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