I can't do this. Made it halfway through the episode but it's goddam awful. A string of goddam identical scenes where one person enters a room or bumps into another on the street, they exchange a few overly-dramatic empty phrases and then one of them storms out, leaving us with a shot of the other's goddamn tense expression and a dramatic goddam melody. It's goddam soap. Literally every scene fits this description. Seriously, try it out.
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Spot on. They have abused what made the show great to a point that it's become a parody now. Who the hell even talks like that in real life ?
Harvey still wears some very nice suits though.
The scarf looked bad though.
so now they have to convince fecking Trevor to lie at the trial 
Just watched the latest show and I see why ^ this explains - this:
… and this:
God-DAMN!
I did notice that it's only the goddam Jessica character that goddam says … oops should have watched all the way through now goddam Harvey's said it! … and now that goddam annoying US attorney woman has said it too … plus one "pretty damn sure" each by Donna and Mike, … oh goddamit Louis too, I goddam give up! Guilty as charged – the Grinder rests!
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I must admit that the show seems to becoming a parody of itself (in a very nice suit) 
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It's been going downhill for a while which is why I stopped watching. Atleast they are finally addressing the elephant in the room, regardless of how soapy they have made it.
so now they have to convince fecking Trevor to lie at the trial
Can't wait to see how all this plays out. One fecking problem after another.What have the characters actually accomplished the past five years? Have they done anything apart from changing the name on the wall?
I hate myself for watching this
I hate myself for watching this
Sarah Rafferty makes it all worth it.
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But anything she adds is cancelled out by that annoying little whining spotty girl that Mike's adopted!
New episode more of the same …
It was always gonna come down to Louis goddamn Litt!
Nah, this one was much better than the last one. Things are happening and people are doing actual things instead of repeating their generic lines.
"We have a problem" must the most used sentence in the show.
Goddam
Goddamn it, we have a problem.
Donna's answers and manners etc when she was on the stand was so out of character, it was awful writing. She couldn't remember what he said to get into the interview but could remember the name that he said.
made it onto this page thinking this thread was actually about suits
Here we go, the cycle of Louis Litt.
Halfway through season 5 and i just find Mike Ross the most boring predictable character in the show. 5 series now and they still haven't dropped the not going to law school storylines - should've moved well beyond that ages ago. Him and Rachel scenes are so boring. I can't really complain because the writing has never been good but the Harvey storyline has been quite well done this year. If Mike dissappeared in the show he wouldn't be missed.
That was a very good episode tbf.
Agree - she crumbled within a minute and it felt as though she hadn't even thought of what questions would come up. Not in character at all.
Thought Harvey was v good - loved how he went after Rachel and then Trevor on the stand - absolute shark!
Why's it awful writing? They wanted to show that the "cold, nothing can get to me" image of hers was fallible and they did so. They pretty much explained it using her meeting with Rachel later. You could see it coming too because she had earlier admitted to Rachel that the thought of giving up Harvey to save her dad had been on her mind even though she trusted Harvey to save his ass.
It was awful writing because she literally remembers everything then claims she can't remember the witty comment that Mike said to her yet remembered the name he used.
I'm rewatching the series right now and Rachel's transformation is actually stupidly bad from 1st season to now.
Agree with this as well. She was a strong character in season 1, but has quickly gone to being someone totally different, and so much weaker.
Ah, that I agree with. I thought you meant it was awful because it wasn't like the Donna that they have created in terms of persona.
Last episode was good. Still, I feel like the show is starting to run on fumes a little bit.
Yeah I think it's got 1 more season in it, Maybe 2 if they use the next one as a build up series.
I'm pitching a potential series thread this afternoon that next season concentrates mainly on the Dent, Florrick, Goodman, Litt merger
Harvey and Louis could carry the series on by themselves at this point. Just pack Mike off to jail to play someone's rag doll and be done with it.
He's pretty much looked like he was only there on work experience since episode 1.
He's pretty much looked like he was only there on work experience since episode 1.
Harvey and Jessica claiming to have no idea about his lie? Can't see how they could sell it and still keep the show realistic
I just want rid of Mike's shitty character really.
I don't mind him too much. It's Rachel I can't stand, irritates the shit out of me.
Yes. She needs killing off.
Last episode (14?) was one of the better ones this season. Less use of 'Goddam' and some actual action in the courts like it should be.
Once this season is over, they need to get back to making this show more about the law and about the sharpness of the lawyers rather than inane side stories about their personal lives. The show needs a revamp of sorts.
Once this season is over, they need to get back to making this show more about the law and about the sharpness of the lawyers rather than inane side stories about their personal lives. The show needs a revamp of sorts.
I think the point of that scene was that she clearly could remember exactly what witty comment Mike made, but knew that she would be incriminating him by telling the court what he said. Remember that he was trying to run away from cops after a drug deal, hardly the behaviour of a Harvard law graduate. She either had to make something up, which was risky, or say that she couldn't remember what Mike had said. When asked if she remembered what name Mike had used, she knew immediately because it was true. I don't think it was bad writing at all, since it showed the difficult position Donna was in, where she was forced to lie in order to protect Mike or tell a version of the truth in order to protect herself.