I'm not denying in the past some Liverpool fans have been very quick to condone his actions but in this case most of them have refused to do so. He's gone too far with most of them as far as I know and done it too many times, they can't really defend him any longer.
Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"
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I'm not denying in the past some Liverpool fans have been very quick to condone his actions but in this case most of them have refused to do so. He's gone too far with most of them as far as I know and done it too many times, they can't really defend him any longer.
How are these calls silly? You think he'd care if he got a fine for that? This isn't the first time the guy has done this and I doubt it will be his last. Biting someone isn't something that should be taken lightly and its quite astounding how anyone can find his actions not worthy of an international ban.
that's at least involved in gameplay. this is completely unprovoked
Chiellini's got a right chip on his shoulder now!
Why is anyone defending him with utterly ludicrous comparisons to two footed tackles? One of the two you expect to happen in a football game. Hint: it's in the name.
The recently dicovered love for the game by the Americans will only add to his ban: http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/story/1909004/luis-suarez-reaction----the-bite-debate -- even Evander Holyfield has tweeted... Nice.
By bans from international football I meant permanently.
Stop it then.
Suarez to get banned, they disallow all his goals and England get through.
Heard it here first.
Heard it here first.
Get him one of these:
And once again Suarez has committed some horrible challenges himself.
We'll just have to agree to disagree, then, since I've made my case already and you've dismissed it. No hard feelings or anything, since this is all a matter of opinion, but I think it's a pretty valid statement that an off the ball incident of deliberate violent conduct requires as lengthy a ban as a swinging elbow to the face. To summarize, my point is this: it's not the actual damage done to the opposition player, nor even the potential damage that could be done to the opposition player (i.e. elbow vs. bite), but rather the intent here that really matters, and that probably deserves a hefty ban from FIFA. If it were a punch or a kick off the ball, I'd be saying the same thing, even though those acts would likely cause more harm to the opposition player. It's the deliberate violent conduct toward another player with (what we assume is) no provocation that really justifies a deserved ban. Fighting for the ball, in the midst of a scrap, many players throw elbows and many get sent off. But when uninvolved in the play, if you throw an elbow, that surely must result in a longer ban, since it's purely violent with no relation to the play. Anyhow, we'll agree to disagree, and I'd like to say it was nice having a thoughtful interaction about this rather than some of the hysterical fanaticism I've seen around the internet today regarding the incident.
That Ajax one where he pretty much tried to shatter a guys leg, that was grim.
I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure Ramos played after that injury. With all else I agree.
You're quite correct that Ramos did play after the injury (he spent a good 3 or 4 months in the hospital before he could even begin recovering, though). With Ramos, he never was the same after the incident and many believe that the fracture actually damaged his brain, which is what I was referring to. Clearly, he was never right after the blow which, as I said, is too bad since he was a true talent.
I can't agree with people saying he shouldnt even be banned. Im not calling for a lifetime ban but at least this WC and a couple of months at the start of the season. I mean this isn't the first time he has done it. I can understand if it is his first. You can argue it was the heat of the moment or whatever but this is the THIRD time! Its unbelievable really. He has to be banned at least for the remainder of this WC.
And on a side note, if this world does turn into Zombieland, I would be worried if Suarez was part of my camp. You have to fear him more than the zombies itself. He'll eat you first and leave the remains for the zombies.
And on a side note, if this world does turn into Zombieland, I would be worried if Suarez was part of my camp. You have to fear him more than the zombies itself. He'll eat you first and leave the remains for the zombies.
In terms of injury, yes a two footed leg breaker is by far worse. But it's still, however extreme, just a bad tackle. And tackles are at least a part of the game. But biting? It's despicable on a whole different level. It's a vile and animalistic act, and definitely deserving of a hefty punishment, ESPECIALLY since this is the 3rd time.
FIFA let him off after he punched a Chilean player in qualifiers. I wouldn't be very surprised if FIFA doesn't do anything.
wouldn't be surprised if nothing happens to him til after the cup. he is one of the top 3 biggest names in the competition after all.
His royal majesty kicked a racist thug in the face and should be rightly applauded for following the kick racism out of football campaign to the letter, Suarez bites other players for no reason, no comparison
Personally I wouldn't bother banning him as it has no effect whatsoever. Just let it be known that the next person he bites has complete freedom to turn around and kick his teeth down his throat without any fear of sanctions or repercussions.
From a management of risk point of view, how can the FA ask any defender to go on the pitch against him? Does he need a muzzle to be allowed to play?
The guy needs help. It's just not normal behaviour, and cultural differences in attitude towards biting etc don't wash. You don't see other Uruguayan players doing it habitually. To put it into context, we have all seen worse. IMO elbows to the face like Sheffield United's Chris Morgan years back are worse, but still, it really is unacceptable. He should be helped, and maybe a ban to enable him to get help may be a good thing. Shame, for as much as we like to take the piss, he is a damn fine footballer.
I've just read this thread back, Liverpool fans never fail to deliver.They're just in a world of their own when it comes to Suarez.
"Suarez is the one that suffers" - I lost all composure at that bit
Yep, its just like spitting. Whilst that isn't going to cause injury and isn't dangerous, its still the lowest of the low in terms of what you can do to someone. The argument that what Suarez did wasn't particularly dangerous isn't relevant, IMO.
I'm sure this has been discussed and answered but can't be bothered looking through all the posts. Does anyone know if any potential ban will just be international football or can it carry across to club football too?
But surely by biting, the intent to harm is less than it would be if Suarez elbowed Chiellini? There are different types/levels of violent conduct. But yes, I respect your opinion and we'll agree to disagree.
when Suarez bites, he bites hard
"Somos todos jugadores de fubol, sabemos lo que pasa dentro la cancha, no hay que darle importancia a nada", by Suarez
priceless
priceless
What is wrong with him?
I actually think he may have an illness or disorder and I'm not joking. How can you be that talented, and successful and then out of the blue bite an opposing player......three times.
I mean how childish and sick can you be? Biting...really?
I actually think he may have an illness or disorder and I'm not joking. How can you be that talented, and successful and then out of the blue bite an opposing player......three times.
I mean how childish and sick can you be? Biting...really?
@MrBoywunder: James Pearce - #LFC officials stunned by Suarez. They were determined to retain Suarez’s services prior to this & that remains the case.
@MrBoywunder: James Pearce - In extreme circumstances FIFA have the power to impose a ban which includes club football but that is highly unlikely.
@DamianLFCpl: Luis Suárez’s wish to join Real Madrid lies in doubt after another biting controversy – Tony Barrett, The Timeshttp://lfc.pl/files/pdf/2014_06_25_tony.pdf …
@MrBoywunder: James Pearce - In extreme circumstances FIFA have the power to impose a ban which includes club football but that is highly unlikely.
@DamianLFCpl: Luis Suárez’s wish to join Real Madrid lies in doubt after another biting controversy – Tony Barrett, The Timeshttp://lfc.pl/files/pdf/2014_06_25_tony.pdf …
When can we expect his Liverpool teammates to make warmup shirts with "Justice 4 Suarez" on them?
Get him one of these:
Oh that will be the case. After this there might not be teams coming in for him and Liverpool will absolutely not sell him even if he murders somebody because they won't be as good without him.
Yes, because the evil English media made him bite that Italian and forced him out of Liverpool. If it weren't for them, he'd still be at Liverpool.
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The media and opposition fans are going overboard though. Even Pepe with his violent history didn't get this much stick for his headbutt.
Whatever ban he gets it should be mirrored for the idiotic Pool fans in this thread. They really would defend anything to stop that joke of a club being tainted.
Liverpool fans not so willing to stand up for him this time because event did not happen in a Liverpool game?
Biting someone three times is strange though, not adult behavior..
He's actually fecked up mentally. Once is bad enough, but what the feck goes through your head to bite someone, 3 times??? World class player, but wow is he fecked up. Cantona was a flawed genius as they say, but he wasn't mentally fecked like Suarez.