Sturridge vs Welbeck

That was an imperious performance from him.

Coutinho is just amazing. Asked to go into the engine room and get his hands dirty, does it so well, embarasses the Everton midfield with the way he glides away from them and still finds time to play decisive passes in the final third. One of his best games in a red shirt. Positively surprised at his graft in midfield.
 
B20 said:
That was an imperious performance from him.

Coutinho is just amazing. Asked to go into the engine room and get his hands dirty, does it so well, embarasses the Everton midfield with the way he glides away from them and still finds time to play decisive passes in the final third. One of his best games in a red shirt. Positively surprised at his graft in midfield.
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The first half was his best half in a red shirt, he was incredible.
 
BarneyLFC said:
The first half was his best half in a red shirt, he was incredible.
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Yepped. Robbed of what looked like a certain goal from a wongly called offside as well with both him and luis clear on goal.
 
That hatrick would have nice but hey, spunking it over the top is character building, well done to his Captain for putting him on the spot.

Wightly or wongly
 
gasmanc said:
That hatrick would have nice but hey, spunking it over the top is character building, well done to his Captain for putting him on the spot.

Wightly or wongly
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You're not being serious are you? Of course it was right for his captain to give him the penalty.
 
27 in 34 now. Great overall performance as well.

But no, wellbecks handful of goals around december surely proves it's only a small gap, if he's not actually better anyway.
 
No, he's not better but the talent divide isn't quite as Zidane vs Bramble as the Scousers are making out.

Problem is, it's unlikely we'll ever see Welbeck get a proper run up front to compare the two statiscally with Rooney and RvP here.
 
Is this thread still going? There is a yawning chasm between the 2 of them. Look at their respective goal records.
 
Not forgetting Sturridge played on the left at times. That seems to be a big issue too don't forget, along with the stats and all.
 
Sturridge is more of a killer when it comes to scoring, his finishing is much better than Welbeck's and it simply explains the current main difference between the two.
 
I don't understand how this is a thread.


Sturridge is better than Welbeck. Plain and simple. Welbeck couldn't finish even if he was on bang bus.
 
Sixpence said:
Is this thread still going? There is a yawning chasm between the 2 of them. Look at their respective goal records.
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Embarrassing that there remains quite a number of caftards sitting there typing a ''welbeck is still equal to him or better'' post stonefaced-style.

Shameless and disgusting.
 
The craziest thing about Sturridge is that he's actually managed to bag 27 in 34 without even being the team's main goalscorer. A record like that for any other club's main striker would be outstanding. It's a better strikerate than anything Van Persie, Torres, Fowler or even Shearer and Henry managed in a season and only just short of Nistelroy in his best season for you (and sturridge hasn't taken scored penalties to amp up his record either).

I suppose you could say he should keep it up for some 50 games before making that comparison but 34 games is decent sample nevertheless.

He's going to be immense. You'd never guess he's only just come back from injury either.
 
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Rooney in Paris said:
Is this still a thing?
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Robbie Boy said:
I think Sturridge has shown himself to be the better player for now anyway.
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For now? Forever. I know fans tend to be biased - so take it from a neutral, in terms of who is the best striker, Sturridge is and always will be far better than Welbeck.
 
Sturridge is obviously better right now but there's nothing to suggest that in a few years Welbeck can't be as good/better.
 
No, I disagree, Welbeck has shown nothing to suggest he'll be as prolific as Sturridge. I was sure he was going to miss than peno last week as he walked up. Not since Tony Cascarino have I had that little confidence in a forward taking a spot kick.
 
This reminds me a bit of the Carrick/Alonso debates we used to have. Ie, only ever a debate on the caf.

I'd even venture the gap between those two is less than between Sturridge and Welbeck.
 
moses said:
No, I disagree, Welbeck has shown nothing to suggest he'll be as prolific as Sturridge. I was sure he was going to miss than peno last week as he walked up. Not since Tony Cascarino have I had that little confidence in a forward taking a spot kick.
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Oh ok, I thought you read it as "he's shown nothing to suggest he can be as good".

Anyway yeah, nothing was probably the wrong word there, Sturridge is clearly better at certain things than him. As a forward I think he can be better, maybe/probably not as a goalscorer.

To be fair, Sturridge's spot-kick was just as abysmal.
 
moses said:
Maybe so, but the scary thing about Danny was I knew that before he took it. He's more Alan Smith than RVN.
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To be fair to him, he had 6 goals in 6 games when he was the main man up front, he hasn't had the privilege Sturridge has of playing week in week out in his best position.

he's obviously not a penalty taker though, but then, Rooney's a bit shite at them too isn't he? Even Messi's not great at them. Obviously I'm not comparing him to those two players but I don't think penalties are a fair way to judge a striker, a lot of the best penalty takers in the game are actually midfielders.
 
Cina said:
To be fair to him, he had 6 goals in 6 games when he was the main man up front, he hasn't had the privilege Sturridge has of playing week in week out in his best position.

he's obviously not a penalty taker though, but then, Rooney's a bit shite at them too isn't he? Even Messi's not great at them. Obviously I'm not comparing him to those two players but I don't think penalties are a fair way to judge a striker, a lot of the best penalty takers in the game are actually midfielders.
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That sounds like you are trying to convince yourself as much as me. Danny has missed a fair few sitters in play too. He has had the two main men injured for most of this season and hasn't pulled up any trees, and yes he did have a small run of goals, but I wasn't convinced by his play in most of those games. Sturridge stepped up and the scousers barely missed Suarez when he was banned. We always looked a CF short.
 
moses said:
That sounds like you are trying to convince yourself as much as me. Danny has missed a fair few sitters in play too. He has had the two main men injured for most of this season and hasn't pulled up any trees, and yes he did have a small run of goals, but I wasn't convinced by his play in most of those games. Sturridge stepped up and the scousers barely missed Suarez when he was banned. We always looked a CF short.
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He is easily one of our best players this season, how can you criticise him at all? Only Rooney and de Gea are probably having better season than him in our team.
 
moses said:
That sounds like you are trying to convince yourself as much as me. Danny has missed a fair few sitters in play too. He has had the two main men injured for most of this season and hasn't pulled up any trees, and yes he did have a small run of goals, but I wasn't convinced by his play in most of those games. Sturridge stepped up and the scousers barely missed Suarez when he was banned. We always looked a CF short.
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Don't we all want to try convince ourselves a talented academy player can make it, though (well, except Lynk)? I'm hardly his biggest fan on here, never really been convinced he can be this great player that some do, and they mainly do because there's a large bias towards academy players on here at times.

I agree Sturridge is comfortably the better player right now, no doubt, but I do think Welbeck has enough in the locker to become a really good player, whether he does that is another story. I don't think you can say he's not capable of being as good but I don't think you can say he definitely will be either.
 
Amar__ said:
He is easily one of our best players this season, how can you criticise him at all? Only Rooney and de Gea are probably having better season than him in our team.
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He leaves me cold, I just don't rate his ability. He works hard, but he's A Dirk Kuyt or Alan Smith, neither of whom I liked.
 
Amar__ said:
He is easily one of our best players this season, how can you criticise him at all? Only Rooney and de Gea are probably having better season than him in our team.
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Come on. He's had some 3 good games.

Januzaj has easily been better.
 
Cina said:
Don't we all want to try convince ourselves a talented academy player can make it, though (well, except Lynk)? I'm hardly his biggest fan on here, never really been convinced he can be this great player that some do, and they mainly do because there's a large bias towards academy players on here at times.

I agree Sturridge is comfortably the better player right now, no doubt, but I do think Welbeck has enough in the locker to become a really good player, whether he does that is another story. I don't think you can say he's not capable of being as good but I don't think you can say he definitely will be either.
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The bias towards Academy players is finite, when you see so much of them and they still leave you cold, you draw a line. The same for Tom. As for definitely, well no, but I wouldn't be putting too much money on Danny becoming a fixture in the side.
 
moses said:
He leaves me cold, I just don't rate his ability. He works hard, but he's A Dirk Kuyt or Alan Smith, neither of whom I liked.
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OK, that's your perception, but I disagree with that, his all-round play in last month or so, or pretty much anytime he played as striker this season was better than van Persie's pre injury(this season).

amolbhatia100 said:
Come on. He's had some 3 good games.

Januzaj has easily been better.
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:lol:
 
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