Sturridge vs Welbeck

The way he sucked all defenders away from Suarez then laid on a sumptious ball to Luis was perfection personified. The defending wasn't exactly world class but they are still the premiership defenders that had previously only conceded 8 goals at their ground.

Then his reaction for his own goal, composure to chest then head and then take a breath before striking cleanly was magnificent. Couldn't see Sterling, Henderson or Coutinho do that. Its a shame he's so injury prone, he's always given me edge of the seat moments for LFC (not for England but don't give a shit).
 
Chabon said:
This is a decent moment for making comparisons, because they've now played almost the exact same amount of minutes in the league this season. So you may as well explain in what possible sense has Sturridge 'been on a whole other level?'
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Maybe if there wasn't so much hostility in the tone of your question I would
 
Should really have laid it off to Suarez when he scored, he was in a better position in front of an "open" goal, greedy bollox he is. Wins hands down in the who's got the shittest, gayest celebration dance though, cringe worthy.
 
gasmanc said:
Should really have laid it off to Suarez when he scored, he was in a better position in front of an "open" goal, greedy bollox he is. Wins hands down in the who's got the shittest, gayest celebration dance though, cringe worthy.
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:boring:
 
Only in your "I must be as negative as possible about everybody other than United as it makes me a better fan" world.

I agree about the dance from a non-Liverpool perspective. I used to hate it, until he joined us. Now, for obvious reasons I fecking love it. I like it even more as it is obvious he knows it's ridiculous and does it to take the piss out of himself.
 
M'n'M said:
Only in your "I must be as negative as possible about everybody other than United as it makes me a better fan" world.

I agree about the dance from a non-Liverpool perspective. I used to hate it, until he joined us. Now, for obvious reasons I fecking love it. I like it even more as it is obvious he knows it's ridiculous and does it to take the piss out of himself.
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It's generally just aimed at Liverpool TBF, historical scars and all that, or I am joking, I think he will regret that dance in a similar fashion a 50 year old woman regrets that made in England tattoo she had round her belly button when she was 18.
 
Both have their positives and negatives really. Sturridge is looking pretty quality in the final third of the pitch nowadays and has the edge on Welbeck in a few of those areas. That said, Sturridge could never do the job that Welbeck has in games such as Madrid away in Europe, where Welbeck was used to hassle and pressure the opposition.

They're both bloody good with potential to get better and better.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
Nah he probably thinks it's a humongous dance.
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The crowd took the piss a bit at his celebration last season and he had a good laugh at it. Doesn’t take it very seriously at all.

Sturridge is a great lad.
 
B20 said:
The crowd took the piss a bit at his celebration last season and he had a good laugh at it. Doesn’t take it very seriously at all.

Sturridge is a great lad.
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Yep, I've been very pleasantly surprised following all the idle chat and internet gossip about his so-called bad attitude and arrogance before he arrived. I've seen none of it, in fact the complete opposite.
 
Burn this thread now. Burn it, disperse the ashes in the Ganges and everyone wash their eyes with soap.

The travesty must end.
 
Before this thread is burned, that is how you finish a chance in a cup game.
 
Dumbstar said:
Before this thread is burned, that is how you finish a chance in a cup game.
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1 goal against a team in the championship and the idiotscome running out. I'm not surprised.
 
In all honesty, it's been a lot more than one goal against a championship team.

Welbeck has scored a few in recent weeks, but Sturridge's been doing far more.
 
Sturridge has found his level. Playing with a team who will drift around 6-8th. He couldnt hack it at a big club.
 
Proud_Lyon said:
At least be fair about it. We all like Danny, he can be brilliant, but let us face facts, Sturridge is on another level to Welbeck, whether we like to dismiss it or not, Sturridge is a good player in an average team.
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Still yet to see any actual justification for this. It used to be the goalscoring, but the difference between the two this season is marginal and can even be put largely down to Danny's handful of games marooned out on the left.

What exactly is it that puts Sturridge on another level, his dancing?
 
Chabon said:
Still yet to see any actual justification for this. It used to be the goalscoring, but the difference between the two this season is marginal and can even be put largely down to Danny's handful of games marooned out on the left.

What exactly is it that puts Sturridge on another level, his dancing?
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I can't say I watch Welbeck game in game out, but Sturridge has now reached that level where he's consistently creating things/looking dangerous. Whenever he's on the ball, you expect something to happen. Can you say the same about Welbeck?
 
ShadesOfTomato said:
I can't say I watch Welbeck game in game out, but Sturridge has now reached that level where he's consistently creating things/looking dangerous. Whenever he's on the ball, you expect something to happen. Can you say the same about Welbeck?
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No. Welbeck is incredibly frustrating to watch. Sturridge is much better.
 
They aren't that close really. Sturridge has 25 goals in 33 appearances in all comps for Liverpool, which is a fantastic record. Welbeck is only a year younger, so this thread can be bumped when he finds a similar period of consistency and shows that striking ability but as it is, Sturridge is a far better striker then Welbeck.
 
Both are very good at football and have shit hair. I reckon Sturridge is the better finisher, but Danny is the better goal celebrator.
 
Sturridge made the right move, dropping down to a team where he could be one of the main strikers. Welbeck may step up to be a main player or he may need to make a decision (squad player or move) like Sturridge did.
 
bosnian_red said:
Sturridge has 25 goals in 33 appearances in all comps for Liverpool
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I read he's scoring at a more frequent rate than Torres in his days at Liverpool. Not a lot of people realise how good he's actually been for us. His impact has been absolutely unprecedented.
 
This under rating will at least keep the money clubs away for a while. I hope he has a stinker in the world cup while Welbeck scores 3.
 
You don't need to hope, Welbeck will be better than him at the WC, as he always is for England.
 
Chabon said:
Still yet to see any actual justification for this. It used to be the goalscoring, but the difference between the two this season is marginal
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9 goals in 19 games vs 14 goals in 17 games.

#marginal
 
ShadesOfTomato said:
I read he's scoring at a more frequent rate than Torres in his days at Liverpool. Not a lot of people realise how good he's actually been for us. His impact has been absolutely unprecedented.
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That chip of the keeper that went off the crossbar was Fowleresque.

Not as good a dribbler as Torres or the same physical presence up front. Better in the buildup though and simply a better goalgetter. The fact that he's matching Torres of old for goals playing second fiddle to Suarez whilst Torres had everything set up around him scoring the goals says a lot as well.

Torres obviously was a far more elegant player and dazzling to watch at times, and he got a fair share of his goals as winners in some very big games. Sturridge hasn't had the same opportunities to shine yet (and inevitably gets outshined by Suarez anyway) but Sturridge is performing as well as could be expected of anyone partnering a player like Suarez.
 
SATA said:
Welbeck's the better footballer and more intelligent, Sturridge's the better goalscorer
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Doesn't mean a whole lot really, does it? Welbeck's intelligence and better footballing skills (not sure how true that is anyway...) still don't make a dent in Sturridge's actual end product.

Sturridge is streets ahead of Welbeck.
 
Some people need to take a step back from the keyboard and ask themselves whether their opinion would change if Sturridge played for United.

This is just one step away from the Cleverley v Wilshere thread.
 
B20 said:
That chip of the keeper that went off the crossbar was Fowleresque.

Not as good a dribbler as Torres or the same physical presence up front. Better in the buildup though and simply a better goalgetter. The fact that he's matching Torres of old for goals playing second fiddle to Suarez whilst Torres had everything set up around him scoring the goals says a lot as well.

Torres obviously was a far more elegant player and dazzling to watch at times, and he got a fair share of his goals as winners in some very big games. Sturridge hasn't had the same opportunities to shine yet (and inevitably gets outshined by Suarez anyway) but Sturridge is performing as well as could be expected of anyone partnering a player like Suarez.
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Sturridge is a better more technical dribbler than Torres, Torres relied a lot on his pace to beat players. Don't really agree with your assessment about him being more elegant either, if anything Sturridge is the more elegant one, but Torres at his best had the sheer explosiveness and physical power that made him unstoppable on his day.
 
B20 said:
9 goals in 19 games vs 14 goals in 17 games.

#marginal
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A fairer comparison would be league starts where it is 8 in 12 vs 11 in 12, of which Welbeck has started a few on the left.. and is playing in a team where the most creative players outside of Rooney (who has missed the last month) are Patrice Evra and an 18 year old.

That's not to say that Sturridge isn't the better striker at the moment, but I'm sure he'd be struggling to maintain that impressive scoring rate in this team.. and Welbeck would be doing better in yours. The difference isn't anywhere near as massive as people seem to believe.
 
Nah Drainy, don't be daft, Danny may have scored eight times in 10 matches as a striker this season, but Sturridge scored a brace against the mighty Notts County.

Hell, Febian Brandy scored a hat trick against those toughest of opponents yesterday, I guess we let the wrong local lad go...
 
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