Bench: Cleverley, Anderson, Jones, Giggs.
Potential replacements: Fellaini or Strootman.
Strootman or Fellaini?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Bench: Cleverley, Anderson, Jones, Giggs.
Potential replacements: Fellaini or Strootman.
Scholes and Ando didn't play much anyway this season. So the argument would be Fellaini should be brought in strengthen the squad. I'm all for strengthening the squad, but do you really do that with a 24m player? Maybe, but I doubt it.
I assume we don't have unlimited funds, wihch may or may not be a warranted assumption. My hunch is that our warchest for summer transfers is somewhere in the 60-80m range. Even that could be wildly optimistic. Unless rumors that Ronaldo is interested in coming back to OT -- and as of just a few hours ago the media speculation has it down to United and PSG -- are definitively refuted by Moyes or Ronaldo himself, we'd be absolutely fukking crazy to spend 24m on Marouanne Fellani and not that money to better use bringing in Ronaldo.
And if we have the warchest to bring in both Fellaini AND Ronaldo, then who am I to argue against Moyes brining in both?
We actually could use a bit of depth to supplement our midfielders (I assume Ando will be gone soon), although I don't know why we wouldn't give Cleverley a clearer shot at staking his claim and even giving Powell more minutes. But as we saw this season when he was fit, Kagawa was a dominating presence in the last third of the pitch, easily finding the right man with the perfectly weighted ball or easily scoring when the chances presented themselves.
What Fellaini would give us is a massive target on crosses. That would be a nice tool to have in the toolbox. He's a bit clumsy in the middle third, but he does get stuck in defensively and you have to love that. However, the legitimate criticism of our central midfielders this season was the lack of playmaking ability. Fellaini just isn't a playmaking central mid. But on the oddball occasion where we're down late in the game and we need to hoof long balls into the box, I really can't think of a better man with proven experience in the prem for the job than Fellaini.
A good argument for Fellaini is that we need cover for Carrick, who's been relatively injury-free for a very long time now. Fellaini is no Carrick, but he's a tough guy with very sharp elbows (he'll be a favorite referee target if he joins United and continues to throw elbows at opponents) who's got the ability to pillage up and down the pitch. I've only seen snippets of Strootman so I can't judge who's the better player in this regard but everything I've read in other forums and media scouting reports suggest Strootman has vastly more potential than Fellaini. If we're looking for cover or an eventual replacement for Carrick, perhaps we should took a harder look at him.
Seriously, why are you talking about Ronaldo in a thread with a topic that has NO relevance to Ronaldo, his position, his hair or his cock?
A conclusion based on a very strong reasoning
. As I said before, PM me if you want to watch full games of Strootman with Netherlands, then maybe your opinion is a bit more valid.(or, am I being wooshed here?)
If we signed either Fellaini or Strootman it would be as CM partners for Carrick; a position in which we desperately need players. I'd imagine that either one would start almost every game for us if fit.
Ruud, how have you got it into your head that they'd be little needed squad players? Do you think it's 2005? Don't you watch football? WTF has Ronaldo got to do with our central midfield?
Ruud, how have you got it into your head that they'd be little needed squad players? Do you think it's 2005? Don't you watch football? WTF has Ronaldo got to do with our central midfield?
Ruud is trolling right?
Why would he be trolling? It's all about bringing Ronnie home these days. Haven't you made your pledge yet?
It certainly is the position we desperately need players. Plus Carrick played 46 times for us last season, I don't think we should be planning on the basis that he will manage that again.
Probably why we need two midfielders, but Fellaini could also come in as the defensively stronger midfielder in games where Carrick doesn't play. Not that I'm particularly keen on fellaini coming but he would help both give us a more solid partnership with carrick and also act as an alternative to him so we could rest him more. Not seen Strootman play so can't comment on what he would bring,
I think we need two central midfielders as well. I'd hope for someone better than Fellaini, but I note it would be handy to have a midfielder as good as he is in the air, for set pieces at both ends.
I agree with Rudeboy, you don't want to be paying £24M for an average player like Fellaini. You want real quality or potential.
I have only noticed him whilst playing FM. Is he any good? He has 4 caps for Netherlands at 19, decent going.
Fellani.
He's not a glamour signing but this type of player would make us much stronger.
He's not a glamour signing but this type of player would make us much stronger.
It seems obvious to me you don't spend big money for a squad man, but maybe the game now is all about building a second squad to win the FA Cup. Neither Fellaini (or Fellini, as my iphone spellchecker keeps insisting) nor Stootman gets us any closer to beating Barcelona or Bayern.
But if we're looking for an upgrade for Ando and still have plenty in the bank to bring in top quality players then I have no objections to Fellaini.
Despite the muppetry on here he is a very good player, has a big future ahead of him and would fit in with our youth approach beautifully. He would be a superb signing and would settle in easily.
Is he actually a CM though? I looked up his Muppet videos on youtube and he seems to play either wide or as a #10.
Just seen this posted on Facebook
Incoming Manchester United manager is considering a bid to bring Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini with him to Old Trafford, according to the Guardian. Everton will be able to do little to stop the Belgian leaving, with the player having a clause in his contract allowing him to join a club in the Champions League for a fee of £24 million. It is said that United would be prepared to meet that figure.
Incoming Manchester United manager is considering a bid to bring Everton midfielder Marouane Fellaini with him to Old Trafford, according to the Guardian. Everton will be able to do little to stop the Belgian leaving, with the player having a clause in his contract allowing him to join a club in the Champions League for a fee of £24 million. It is said that United would be prepared to meet that figure.
There's a picture of him on his twitter holding up an RVP #20 United shirt. There are also quotes from him saying that he'll leave this summer and that he knows where he would like to go, but will have to wait and see who puts in a bid.
He would become one of the most expensive signing in United history at 24 million and he is most definitely not worth it. For just a few million more we could get a midfielder at plenty levels above.
Every time I've watched Strootman, he seems to remind me of the midfield version of RVP. I think he'd thrive here.
I'd be thrilled with Fellaini, but if it was completely up to me, I guess I'd take the Stroot.
I'd be thrilled with Fellaini, but if it was completely up to me, I guess I'd take the Stroot.
Strootman does have lovely technique. People are being picky now based on a few rumours linking the club to players who have turned us down before. 20m for a respected international isn't really that much, and Strootman may even cost much less.
Considering Moyes was linked to Strootman and scouted Benfica, we could very well end up with one of him, Fellaini, or Matic. Personally i feel Matic offers the best of both but his price might reflect that.
Considering Moyes was linked to Strootman and scouted Benfica, we could very well end up with one of him, Fellaini, or Matic. Personally i feel Matic offers the best of both but his price might reflect that.
What this fella said.
Who?
Inflation.
Yeah that is one of the problems with Fellani, we'd be paying upwards of 20m for a player who is hitting the headlines playing a role completely different to what we'd need him for. He's got talent as a deeper midfielder no doubt but we haven't seen him there enough in the last season or two to make it worth spending upwards of 20m when someone like moutinho, an established player in that role has gone for a similar price.
He's got a point, stylistically he's very similar to RVP. They're both tall and elegant players, both left-footed, both not the quickest but are capable of going past a man and both dark-haired Dutchmen.
I'm warming to the idea of getting Strootman, I've never been impressed with him on the 15 or so occasions that I've seen him but I think if we saw something in him that we could work with then stylistically he's a very good player to have alongside Carrick. From what I've seen of PSV this season he's very similar to Carrick in terms of playing the simple pass the majority of the time whilst occasionally playing it out to the wings and then following the play up to the edge of the box.
Fellaini is just a no go.
Strootman. At least we would have our first confirmed CM signing in 5 or so years. Fellani might play behind the striker.
I agree, I would say about £10 mil to much for Fellaini.
Strootman AND Fellaini and I will be more than happy. I'd say we'd have to sign a replacement for Rooney if he really left.
Strootman by an absolute country mile and it's not even close to be perfectly honest. Am finding it quite comical that some on here are trying to claim Fellaini is a better player though.
I want both
There's a surprise.
Considering how highly you rate Anderson, you'd probably think Charlie Adam would be a good signing.
Considering how Charlie Adam is not any where near as talented or as good as Anderson. I'd say you are out of your mind.
Or, you know, joking
Not sure I'd want either.. I agree with one of the previous posters that said we should be aiming higher.. We only need one or two signings this summer, so we might just as well splash the cash!
If we sell Rooney, we need another striker. Thats one!
Then we need a CM - Cleverly is not turning out as hoped and Scholes has retired again... I'd love to get Modric or Fabregas! I think even Song would be a good signing for us!
If we sell Rooney, we need another striker. Thats one!
Then we need a CM - Cleverly is not turning out as hoped and Scholes has retired again... I'd love to get Modric or Fabregas! I think even Song would be a good signing for us!