Totally agree. At some point we need to trust players or they will stagnate. You don’t progress past a certain stage by sitting on the bench. We have two huge talents and two oldies, who can also play in this role. Nobody wants to go into a season with only one 18 year old guy without any alternatives, but if the current situation doesn’t allow us to make good use of them, we can really should stop buying any talent. Fans who want to buy another forward are imo mental.
Strikers we could buy?
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Totally agree. At some point we need to trust players or they will stagnate. You don’t progress past a certain stage by sitting on the bench. We have two huge talents and two oldies, who can also play in this role. Nobody wants to go into a season with only one 18 year old guy without any alternatives, but if the current situation doesn’t allow us to make good use of them, we can really should stop buying any talent. Fans who want to buy another forward are imo mental.
Ok, I just think we are seeing a pattern that managers don't see Martial as a #9, but has a goal scoring wide forward, which are just as hard to come by as a striker.
And I see "shite" circumstances, Memphis failed and Rooney needed to be pampered. Martial started as a striker for us and has been moved wide because he is better than everyone else.
Why should we? He'll cost a bomb and he's not very talented either. Id rather see us give Martial/Rashford a go and bring in an average striker like Lukaku on cheap as cover.
Well even with that train of thought he's also better than anyone else we could buy for the left anyway, but we could by a much more proven striker.
FM has created this "need to buy" for some reason, we have Martial & Rashford as young upcoming talents, Ibra who is good enough for us, we need to play the younger lads in the striking position rather than wingers. We need to manage Ibra's time better and setup to make the most of him, it's only Valencia crossing for Zlatan most of the time.
Reading your posts I can understand where you are coming from and it's not that I disagree necessarily, it's just the timing of it. It's always fun to speculate or talk about interesting players, who could potentially sign for us, but I think it's a bit soon to deem Martial, Rashford and Ibrahimovic not good enough as options for the striker position. To your point why I want to see him as a strker, first and foremost, that's where he impressed me the most, more so than out wide, and Martial himself thinks it's his best position. I tend to agree.
What are suggesting specifically? Buying Aubameyang next summer? Are there alternatives for you?
And yet you suggest Vardy. Makes little sense. His purple patch seems to be over and he's definitely worse than Lukaku.
Why do we need to buy anyone? Why not play Martial? He's like super talented, plus we've got Rashford...
It's not so much writing them off it's just the reality of Ibra's age, we are only 2 months in and he already looks to be slowing down and the way he's started losing the ball so often is down to age as well IMO, he's used too much more time on the ball, so to me to go into next season with him as a striker at 36 would be crazy. As for Rashford and Martial, with Rashford I simply think it's way too soon, he is good but very overhyped on here in my view, there's still a lot to learn and I think how City are blooding Ineacho is the way to go. As for Martial, I guess we just disagree, to me his biggest talent is running from deeper at defenses, his movement isn't great for a #9 and he's hit and miss as a finisher, but if Jose were to decide to make him #9 we'd have to pull off something big like Bale for the wing to add some genuine goal threat out there as we won't get it from our midfield 3.
Aubameyang would be the best choice IMO, I don't think Lacazette or Lukaku are good enough for the fees they'd cost. Icardi has personal flaws but I think he suits Jose's style, and @Invictus mentioned Andre Silva who has the right qualities, however he's young as well so I am unsure. If Jose were willing to have a less conventional striker I think Dybala would be great.
Basically I am saying I think Martial can get us 15 from wide so lets get a 30 goal striker, but if we played Martial as #9 then we'd need to get a 20+ goal player into one of the other positions in the forward line.
Move Martial up front which is where he wants to play and sign a left winger. Rashford can back Martial up.
I can understand where you are coming from and I am going to leave it at that. Andre Silva is an interesting suggestion.
What makes people think Auba would want to come to us? If we're still shit in January who would want to?
Rashford is a very clinical striker, he deserves to start. I remember last season, almost every time he got the ball in the box he'd smash into the back of the net.
I would love Bale.
Not in January, in the summer it could be a different thing as long as we scrape a CL place.
Yeah mate, there isn't a solution that seems totally ideal but I do think there will have to be a choice made in the summer one way or the other.
I suggest vardy because he wont cost a bomb and he wont mind the bench too much.
Because we don't give players the time to develope anymore. If young players have a couple of bad games for us it seens that 2/3 of our fanbase want them either sold or Woody to bring in an established replacement.
Shiny new toy
We need to sign a RvP again. Not a young talent with potential, not a gamble on someone who is just coming back from a long term injury, not a player who is on the wrong side of 30.
I don't watch a lot of football outside England so I don't really know who fits that profile.
Also, for everyone saying we have Marial and Rashford, we had Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez when we signed RvP. Add to that, we had Macheda, King and another South American youngster I keep forgetting the name of. I really hope Ibra can start scoring like we know he can, but even then he's only a short term fix.
I don't watch a lot of football outside England so I don't really know who fits that profile.
Also, for everyone saying we have Marial and Rashford, we had Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez when we signed RvP. Add to that, we had Macheda, King and another South American youngster I keep forgetting the name of. I really hope Ibra can start scoring like we know he can, but even then he's only a short term fix.
Your'e right. While at it we should consider buying Evra and bringing VDS, Rio, Vidic, Gaz and Giggs out of retirement. Imagine the team.
---------VDS-----------
Gaz----Rio---Vidic-----Evra
------Bastian---Carrick-------
Rooney----------------Giggs
--------Ibra-----RVP--------
We'll be unbeatable in 2006
yeah you do realize he said a RVP, not THE RVP.
Looks brilliant on paper doesn't it? Imagine having a midfield of Bastian and Carrick with Ibra and RvP as forwards. Pity we got both Ibra and Bastian so late.
About the general tone of your post, refer to what GBBQ said.
About the general tone of your post, refer to what GBBQ said.
I think Aubameyang is really eyeing a transfer to Real Madrid.
Suarez, would actually be the ideal player to lead to the line after Ibra has his season. Can't see him wanting to play for us, or us wanting him after what happened though.
, would actually be the ideal player to lead to the line after Ibra has his season. Can't see him wanting to play for us, or us wanting him after what happened though.We could trade Pogba for Higuin?
I've always liked Salomon Rondon. Has always put in a shift whenever I've watched him, often surrounded by a pretty weak supporting cast.
He's a fantastic player, would not mind him in our team at all.
Rashford - Aubameyang - Martial
Moussa dembele or Icardi or that young French dude we used to have who scored that Liverpool debut goal, we should buy him back.
Realistically - we can buy anyone spare the usual galacticos like Messi et al.
Its quite plausible that we will flush out about £1m of weekly wages out of the wage bill this summer.
Rooney - 250
Ibra - 220
BFS - 200
Carrick - 80
Jones - 50
Fellaini - 80 (possibly)
Young - 110
Adnan - 40
That's plenty of overhead reduction to make a few massive buys.
Its quite plausible that we will flush out about £1m of weekly wages out of the wage bill this summer.
Rooney - 250
Ibra - 220
BFS - 200
Carrick - 80
Jones - 50
Fellaini - 80 (possibly)
Young - 110
Adnan - 40
That's plenty of overhead reduction to make a few massive buys.
I think Martial is better suited to a wide-forward sort of a role really. Ideally, we'd get someone like Dybala to partner him and Mkhitaryan in a front three.
Realistically, if we do get a new striker it'll be Lukaku, which would be pointless.
I don't see Dybala as a striker at all, more like a 2nd forward in a 2-striker system or the right wide-forward in a front three.
I can see you going for that lad Leko at West Brom.
I know he's not a central striker but he does look good and I think that you recently hired the coach who brought him through?
I know he's not a central striker but he does look good and I think that you recently hired the coach who brought him through?
Didn't Young take a big wage cut when he signed his last contract? Either way you're right, there's a lot of money to be free'd up in this squad.
He'd be an awful choice and ludicrously expensive.
Agreed. We need a technically gifted player who can create chances for themselves; someone in the same mould of player as Aguero, Tevez or Suarez.
I have no doubt in my mind that Lukaku will be top of the list though, unfortunately.
All this striker talk seems a bit premature when we've still got Rashford, Ibrahimovic and Martial on our books.
Signing four or five first-team players every summer can't be good for the squad and there's other positions more concerning than this one.
Signing four or five first-team players every summer can't be good for the squad and there's other positions more concerning than this one.
I hope you're wrong mate, he's never going to be an elite striker and Everton would bleed us dry, we need a much more mobile and inventive striker than Lukaku.
Scoring goals is pretty much fundamental in winning games and we don't have a top striker, Ibra is also 35 so realistically I can't see how we go into another season with him or a teenager as our main #9. I also don't see what positions are more concerning, we need another CB and CM as well but not more than we need a lethal goal scorer.
I don't see Ibrahimovic going anywhere fast as long as Mourinho is the manager, he might have a reduction in minutes next year but I'm sure he'll be sticking around and Rashford can pick up that slack instead of being wasted out wide. Age really shouldn't matter if he's good enough to play in the first team, Rooney and Owen were both key players for their respective clubs at that age. As long as he has good players around him, he'll be fine.
I think both of those positions are more important to us than a striker, and a proper winger too. We still have too many multifunctional players making up our wide options which is quite surprising considering how much of a fuss Mourinho kicked up about wanting specialists in the summer.
No need for another striker. With the exception of IwantaNacho we have the two brightest young strikers in the PL.
What we need is a LW so Martial and Rashford doesn't have to deputize on the flank anymore.
What we need is a LW so Martial and Rashford doesn't have to deputize on the flank anymore.