Mahrez would be a game changer on budget.
Still Need that Game Changer
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We have to hope Matic opens up the game for Pogba to be that driving force and hope Martial can take a big step forward. Last year we created a bunch of chances but were inept at finishing at times. I loved what Ibra brought, but he dropped deep a lot playing more like a 10 and creating a bit of a cluster in the middle of the park and wasn't clinical. Lukaku is a perfect 9 with pace to stretch the opposing D and with Matic shielding, the D behind opens up the field for Pogba and Herrera.
I feel next summer we shall go all out for a world class attacker. Unless a miracle like Bale leaving Real pops up this summer
Atletico's transfer ban cost us the title I think.
Lucas is bang average and a new Nani, Mahrez is a right winger where we have options.
Pogba, Martial, Rashford.
Griezmann was that player. This summer, it seems that Alexis Sanchez and Gareth Bale are available. If City sign Sanchez, we should try to sign Bale (If Madrid decide to sell him).
If they are not realistic, Mahrez, Dembele (my muppet signing), Moura or Di Maria are good options to improve our attack.
If they are not realistic, Mahrez, Dembele (my muppet signing), Moura or Di Maria are good options to improve our attack.
If we got Griezmann and another left back it would have been the perfect summer. However we will get neither. Jose likes a challenge I suppose
Alexis Sanchez would be perfect right now
I think Martial has HUGE potential and has shown in glimpses he could be world class, I'm not making a comparison but at 21 was Ronaldo better for us at the same age ?
If I had to choose where we need a potential game changer it should be on the right side rather than where Martial is so I'd rather we go for Dembele, having Dembele and Martial flying down both flanks at full pace would be frightening for defenders especially with Rashford or Lukaku through the middle or interchanging with the wide players.
If I had to choose where we need a potential game changer it should be on the right side rather than where Martial is so I'd rather we go for Dembele, having Dembele and Martial flying down both flanks at full pace would be frightening for defenders especially with Rashford or Lukaku through the middle or interchanging with the wide players.
I agree.
Arsenal would be stupid to sell him to any other team in the EPL but I would ensure that we make them an offer they found difficult to refuse and outbid City for him.
Dembele would be perfect for us on the RW/RF but I havent seen one credible link to him as yet
He showed loyalty to Atletico. Not to us.
Much like Di Maria was loyal to R.Madrid. He did not want to leave, but was forced out...so he joined us.
Somebody like RvN didn't really show loyalty to PSV, but he did show loyalty to us.
Griezmann has made his choice and its pretty clear that he values Atletico Madrid over everything else...fair play. Given this, I don't see him joining any club, anytime soon.
I realise that some of you think Martial is going to win the Ballon dor.
I also realise that some fans think L.Shaw is the best LB in the World and the only reason we didn't win the league 2 years ago, was because of Shaw's injury.
But to compare Martial with Ronaldo is err....deluded?
Ronaldo was very exciting to watch in his very first season for us. His end product was lacking, but he did everything, but score a goal. By the age of 21, he was already one of the best players in the league. By the age of 23, did he not win the Ballon Dor?
Martial, in comparison has scored 4 league goals in his last season. He was abysmal. Even the word abysmal is perhaps too good to describe how bad Martial was last season and some believe that if he has another one of those seasons, he'll be gone in the Summer. I said this 2 seasons ago: Martial would not have even made the bench in the 1999 squad. That's how good Martial is right now.
Does he have potential? Yes. Of course. But realising that potential is a whole different story.
Given City are reportedly willing to spend at least £150m on Mbappe, we realistically have no hope of outbidding them on any player they want to beat us to signing. Not until FFP is properly enforced anyway.
The good news - if the Neymar deal to PSG happens, it has the potential to shake everything up again in regards to FFP. Because once this oil money starts robbing one of the sacred Spanish giants of marquee players, UEFA will take a very keen interest in coming down hard on this stuff again.
Pogba and Lukaku need to be those game changers. For the prices we paid that's what we expect.
Obviously we still need a winger who can actually dribble past players and put a good cross in.
Obviously we still need a winger who can actually dribble past players and put a good cross in.
Our players have to step up without the need to pay again.
That has to come from our current squad. We can't keep relying on transfers window after window. It's time for some of our players with "potential" to come good and perform, that's what will make or break this season.
He'll be a Utd player next summer if we're still interested, obviously.
Neymar??
Need to hope for internal improvement(mostly from the likes of Rashford, Martial and Mkhi).
I don't think we'll get a 'game changer' this transfer window.
I don't think we'll get a 'game changer' this transfer window.
Mahrez would probably be more productive than Mhikitaryan
I think we are weakest on our left though- Rashford/Martial kinda give you the same thing
I think we are weakest on our left though- Rashford/Martial kinda give you the same thing
I agree with the OP - we've spent close to £150m and haven't really addressed the problems that hampered us last year. I keep on reading how Matic will 'unleash' Pogba - I hope so but the expectation seems to be that after a year of PL experience, a proper pre-season and now a player that will play the holding role, he'll be able to transform our frankly poor performing attacking output on his own...I think that people are going to be disappointed and we'll see some good improvement but nothing like the the levels some are hoping for.
It also applies to all of the other players in our attacking positions - the likelihood that Rashford goes to another level, Martial gets back on track, Mkhitaryan gains consistency, Lingard doubles his goal tally etc....well it's just really unlikely. The reality is that some players will progress, others will have OK seasons and some will be poor. Applies to all of the teams. Anyway, I think we'll improve but as per the OP, we'll still be lacking a few game changers and will suffer too many games in which we fail to break down the opposition. It's a bit frustrating because we are so close to a REALLY good squad - I guess theses players don't grow on trees and cost ridiculous amounts but still...
It also applies to all of the other players in our attacking positions - the likelihood that Rashford goes to another level, Martial gets back on track, Mkhitaryan gains consistency, Lingard doubles his goal tally etc....well it's just really unlikely. The reality is that some players will progress, others will have OK seasons and some will be poor. Applies to all of the teams. Anyway, I think we'll improve but as per the OP, we'll still be lacking a few game changers and will suffer too many games in which we fail to break down the opposition. It's a bit frustrating because we are so close to a REALLY good squad - I guess theses players don't grow on trees and cost ridiculous amounts but still...
Did you scroll past the point in which I said "I'm not making a comparison" ? Was Martial not exciting to watch in his first season ? Was Ronaldo in any way consistent for us at 21 ? Sometimes I wonder if some people only remember Ronaldo post World Cup in 2006 and forget his first few seasons.
I don't think Martial is destined to be anywhere near Ronaldo seeing as Ronaldo is in the discussion for top 10 at least of all time and a modern day goalscoring freak, nor do I think Martial is destined to take over the mantle of Balon D'Or winner once Messi and Ronaldo stop making it a two player prize.
What I do think though is Martial has enough potential to be a game changer for us if he becomes consistent, I think Martial has already shown he has an ability to win a game with a moment of brilliance and that in my eyes is a game changer which if he realises his potential he'll consistently be.
Exactamundo.
Matic, Herrera, Pogba, Martial/Rashers, Miki/Mata, Lukaku is as good a front 6 as there is in the Prem.
Squad depth might be a weakness however, the second string aren't as strong as I'd like.
This.
Ridiculous perspective if you ask me.
He stuck with his teammates and manager at a tough time for the club.
I am fairly certain he will leave next season though, most likely to us unless Barca come sniffing too.
Agreed. And I am sure we will be.
Perisic anyone ?
We need a player that can drive through the middle. Closest I've seen from a Utd player is lingard, which is saying as lot.
Rashford is the man.
He will be the best striker in the world at some point. I'm that confident in him. He shows glimpses of being that "matchwinner" you all crave. Look at the Chelsea game and the Semi Final against Celta Vigo. That free kick was immense. It reminded me of something a young Ronaldo would do.
I honestly think he's our best young talent since Ronaldo.
He will be the best striker in the world at some point. I'm that confident in him. He shows glimpses of being that "matchwinner" you all crave. Look at the Chelsea game and the Semi Final against Celta Vigo. That free kick was immense. It reminded me of something a young Ronaldo would do.
I honestly think he's our best young talent since Ronaldo.
No. We don't need one now.
Mahrez would be more productive than Martial, Rashford and Miki.
Or make Di Maria look energetic and enthusiastic.
Tough one. I would love him in our squad. As a last resort if other options fall through though. We need consistent greatness. Sanchez would be first choice.
yes I agree completely
Sanchez has that determination and will to win that Tevez/Suarez/Vidal have, a nice combination of skill and aggression - he could play left/right or as a SS
we are a direct top 4 rival though so can't see Wenger selling to us
I'd consider going back for Di Maria deprnding on the reason he left the club previously - if PSG are in for Neymar and ffp is a factor they will need to move some on - after selling for 44 million he could be available for a similar if not smaller fee
Mahrez is technically very good - he should be on the list
We have some great options tbf. This is a really tasty front 6 IMO.
Lukaku
Martial _ Pogba _ Mkhitaryan
Matic _ Herrera
Martial _ Pogba _ Mkhitaryan
Matic _ Herrera
if two of martial, mkhitaryan and rashford step up we should be fine. the question is could they? mkhi maybe, rashford maybe, martial i don't know. big question mark here.
pogba is also capable of getting into double figures (goals) and with matic alongside him now, he should be targeting at least 15.
jose is still looking for one more attacker though, and rightly so. think it is between perisic and bale now. perisic seems to be the main target while bale is a small possibility as it depends much on the Mpabbe's transfer. wanted alexis sanchez but the reality is it is unlikely to happen.
pogba is also capable of getting into double figures (goals) and with matic alongside him now, he should be targeting at least 15.
jose is still looking for one more attacker though, and rightly so. think it is between perisic and bale now. perisic seems to be the main target while bale is a small possibility as it depends much on the Mpabbe's transfer. wanted alexis sanchez but the reality is it is unlikely to happen.
Jesus. Did he feck your mother then burn the house down?
He was no worse than Rashford (for the majority of the season) or Lingard and in terms of goals plus assists per minute he was only behind Ibrahimovic...
This seems good on paper, but I would rather have Pogba in midfield rather than as a no. 10. He should have the licence to roam instigating attacks from deep while making those late runs into the box.
He's tailormade for being a box to box mid.
Sorry to tell you, but City have signed all of them...!
If neymar moves to PSG or Mbappe moves to Madrid it will lead to other players like di maria, moura, bale (maybe) moving.
I still think we will sign a winger that can play on the right or the left. It might end up being late in the window but it will happen IMO.
I still think we will sign a winger that can play on the right or the left. It might end up being late in the window but it will happen IMO.
Your assumptions are based on what you saw last season. We've added 3 big players, wait and see how that will impact the current side. I will always use 06/07 team as an example. Most people felt that side needed 3-4 more players, SAF bought 1 player (Carrick), Rooney and Ronaldo grew one year older and everything just clicked.
2017/18, you will witness Rashford and Martial that are older and more developed, more experience, a settled Mkhitaryan, a striker that has played more than 5 years in premier league and still only 24yrs, a very experienced midfielder that knows how to win, a world class midfielder that finally got much deserved rest and pre-season under his belt. Big difference.
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