Phil Collins in the dressing room pre game then.
Steven Gerrard | Al-Ettifaq Manager
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Based on what?
Lampard had modern ideas. He just couldn't implement them successfully.
Entirely correct. And what they lack is the drive to get stuck in and overcome obstacles, they can just quit and enter punditry if needed or if they feel unappreciated. A disasterous appointment by Aston Villa in every way, this guy does not deserve the chance and he is not qualified to lead a good Premier League-club yet. The problem with the players that just retired is their affiliation with the former club and the lack of loyalty to the new one, it's a playground to entertain themselves after retirement. The Scottish league is no reference either, just as Norway is no reference, those two are much closer to each other relative to the Premier League. Gerrard is a pashun and grit kind of guy, he has never impressed me when it comes to tactical understanding or learning the game. No way he does better than Dean Smith and no way they are going to get Europe with him in charge, something which is extremely difficult anyway - so won't really hold that against him. Gone by the end of next Christmas which is probably going to mess up his chances of getting the Liverpool-gig. I hate Gerrard.
Another potential Ole replacement missed
Confident on Kevin Keegan now
Confident on Kevin Keegan now
Losing Grealish and getting that prick. Tough on Villa.
".....yeeeah uvcoarse"
My bad
…easy mistake both awfulCheers for the insight, kinda annoying to get your manager snatched like that mid season. It's bad enough when they take your best player, but that's still just a cog while the manager is brains, which is something that can't be replaced as easily...
I respect him for choosing the hard way when he could’ve waited for the Nepotism and DNA Way.
Bizarre.
Having got Rangers back to the top of Scottish football, and made them a decent Europa League side, I reckon Gerrard would've been in the conversation for England when Southgate goes after Qatar 2022. Lets face it, who else do we have?
At Villa he won't win anything. He might even get dragged down into the relegation conversation. Hardly the set up for a big job. Weird career management.
Having got Rangers back to the top of Scottish football, and made them a decent Europa League side, I reckon Gerrard would've been in the conversation for England when Southgate goes after Qatar 2022. Lets face it, who else do we have?
At Villa he won't win anything. He might even get dragged down into the relegation conversation. Hardly the set up for a big job. Weird career management.
That’s nonsense Gerrard plays good football and sets his team up right, bet you’ve never even watched Rangers play.
Making all the right moves, good board with money to spend, first goal will be to get them in the top 10 and show progression.
He has a way of playing and sets them up like that, in a 4-3-3. He won the Scottish league so Villa got him on the back of that, not based on his former playing abilities, To state the above before he has even managed them is a overreaction.
Are you trying to set a record for the most stupid posts in a week?
If we relegate him, we might save our season
What are you on about? He got offered a better job in a better league.
"Massive success as a player"
Err, what?
He could’ve waited for Klopp to go and hope Liverpool will do an Ole. Now he’s taken a risk while trying to prove he’s got what it takes to manage Liverpool.
You've literally just concocted your own fantasy based nothing more than a vague impression of what he was like as a person when he was a player.
Yeah, the best thing about this is it makes the league interesting again. I can transfer my emotions from wanting United to succeed to wanting Villa to fail.
We badly need to recall Axel
Oh FFS, it's nothing like Ole and Ole wasn't waiting around for Mourinho to go. I don't buy this taking risk stuff, if he wants to be better manager, he's going to a club which will give him that chance. There is no guarantee when Klopp will go and even if they would hire Gerrard if he stayed at Rangers so its hardly a risk.
Based on your assessment of Rangers over the last 3 years?
I'd have thought his use of a 4-3-3, high line, compact midfield, inverted wingers, overlapping full-backs were pretty much the prototype of what constitutes "modern tactics with modern coaching ideas".
Now of course Gerrard owes much of the tactical preparation to Beale who is the real mastermind in making Rangers dominate Celtic and become such a solid proposition in Europe in recent years. But that's modern football where a management team comes together and, importantly for Villa, they're getting the full package (Gerrard, McCallister and Beale) which should set them up well.
Champions League.
Probably at par with our squad players from the 90s and 00s teams. Actually scratch that, all of them won multiple leagues.2 FA Cups, 3 League Cups, 1 UEFA Cup and, 1 CL, isn't bad.
"Massive"
Being the least deserving team to ever win the CL at that. We'd have to come up with a lot of new words for players who actually won leagues and CLs in their careers.
Hope they go down (sorry Villa fans)
How did his Rangers side play? Is he a progressive manager or a dinosaur?
It's a bold move for him, as others have said, if he messes it up, he'll rule himself out of the Liverpool gig. He's also under more pressure than people seem to realise as Villa have money, a decent squad and ambition to be more than they are now. They won't let him wreck that if he's not up to scratch.
It's a bold move for him, as others have said, if he messes it up, he'll rule himself out of the Liverpool gig. He's also under more pressure than people seem to realise as Villa have money, a decent squad and ambition to be more than they are now. They won't let him wreck that if he's not up to scratch.
Aye there is some to be fair. Guilty of the same Rodgers mistake of saying one thing to the press then doing another thing soon after. We always knew he was going to move on, and he almost got shipped out by the club in early 2020 when the season went tits-up, but given the way he'd handled most things, we thought the timing would have been cleaner when that day did arrive.
Or.. get him to lure this guy into a couple of training sessions which I doubt mr. billy big bollocks will say no to and fly in with a few tackles.We badly need to recall Axel
He did the treble with Liverpool didn’t he, lifted more silverware than most clubs have the last 30 years.
Didn’t he go a little bit down the Lampard “it’s not my fault, it’s the players” route early on on his Rangers career?
That’s always the biggest worry about managers like him (or, say, Roy Keane) No time for players that aren’t as good as them and turn on those players when the going gets tough. Be interesting to see how he handles a bit of adversity and how that goes down with his squad. That’s something he hasn’t properly experienced yet.
The opposite is just as likely. I’m still a bit miffed about Rooney crocking Ireland’s best young midfielder in a Derby training session.
Quite the leap of faith from the Villa heirarchy to sack Dean Smith and hire Gerrard. I hope it blows up horribly in their faces. Mainly Stevie G's.
"Massive success as a player" is something you'd say about someone like Xavi or Maldini or something, not a guy who once won a mickey mouse treble and regularly shat the league season after season. He's not even the most decorated player at Liverpool in the last 30 years let alone when you consider all the other clubs.
Quite. To me, Gerrard had never been anything more than a ball-hogging, Hollywood passing, defensive liability with dubious gangster connections and a slain forehead.
Like Keane he demands high standards of his players which the fans obviously lap up. But I'm not sure the parallels with the likes of Keane are correct to be honest. He has a loyal squad, with next to no departures, who, as far as we know and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise, respect and want to play for him. We've had some poor spells in the last 3 years. We won nothing in the first two seasons and collapsed when set for the title in 2019/20. But he's dug in well and kept the players onside. I agree that it will be a different experience moving from one club where he is expected to win every week, to another where he'll have to manage the response to more regular defeats without the emotion we saw from him as a player.
Always liked Villa, not anymore. Hope they get relegated or at least finish just above relegation places.
I can understand your dislike for Gerrard but let’s not pretend he wasn’t a great player if he had moved to Real Madrid that time I’ve not doubt he would’ve won more than a few LaLiga’s..
Surprised to see him cut short his stint at rangers tbh, especially considering he was doing so well. I guess the lure of the PL is too big.