Sterling rejects new deal | Telegraph

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£70k pw is not the going rate for a player like Sterling these days. He is negotiating from a very strong position. If they don't offer him at least 100, he'll be off to City or Chelsea.
 
Offering just £70k is also ridiculous considering he is also Liverpool's best commercial prospect at Liverpool as well.
 
It can still be used as an effective negotiation tactic for any player entering talks with Liverpool, "Well you pay that kid £100,000 a week, I want as much."
That would make sense if Sterling wasn't arguably their best player.
 
Come now spinmasters... Invent a story on United going for him, offering 150k plus bonuses. Spread the word. I want to see some meltdown...

Caf insiders saying Sterling to Manchester United already done and his new contract with Liverpool (if any) will feature a release clause that United will meet although its all for show and the deal is already done.

@RetroStu
 
Those £35,000 a week figures are his basic wages, excluding size-able add-ons, loyalty bonuses, participation in title winning seasons/ European qualification, appearance bonuses etc (as is customary for most bigger clubs). AFAIK his demands from Villa (£60,000) were similar to what he was earning at United.
But then this applies to everyone, every player gets those add ons you have mentioned, even someone whose base salary is 100 k / 180 k / 250 k.
 
Caf insiders saying Sterling to Manchester United already done and his new contract with Liverpool (if any) will feature a release clause that United will meet although its all for show and the deal is already done.

@RetroStu
Who is that? SolidState/Shite?
 
But then this applies to everyone, every player gets those add ons you have mentioned, even someone whose base salary is 100 k / 180 k / 250 k.

Yes, but one can always discern an estimation of the gross figures from the basic wages. wrt Sterling it isn't mentioned that the wages offered are basic, so I'm working under the assumption that those are gross figures. Could be wrong mind. :)

Who is that? SolidState/Shite?

SS is dead (not IRL).
 
Your probably not that far off the mark, and I did exaggerate a bit calling him average. He's a very useful player. That being said, Hazard also works a lot defensively and is just as quick as Willian is.

Willian is a handy player and probably does a lot of things that go unnoticed. However, to say that he is unique is a bit over the top. He's a bit like Valencia was a couple of seasons ago, with less pace and power but more technique and guile.

I certainly would never say that he's unique. But he is quite rare, being a player with the mentality, brains and work-rate to be a manager like Mourinho's Mr Reliable whilst also having the flair, pace and technical ability to be a dangerous individualist attacker.

But I don't think he's much like Valencia - he's technically very complete, two-footed and capable of playing in a lot of different ways. They're only really similar in that they're defensively reliable and quite direct when they attack.

I realise this all sounds a bit fan boyish. To be clear, I'm not really talking about how good he is - Hazard, for example, is obviously the better player. Just noting that he's quite a rare type of player.
 
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Yes, but one can always discern an estimation of the gross figures from the basic wages. wrt Sterling it isn't mentioned that the wages offered are basic, so I'm working under the assumption that those are gross figures. Could be wrong mind. :)

Well in his case he better get a high enough base salary as they are not winning anything anytime soon!
 
Isn't his current deal expiring in 2016 ? If so, we should definitely try to sign a pre-contract agreement in December 2015, with a view towards a Bosman transfer. Be brilliant if it happens, snatching their best prospect for free at age 21. :D
Oh god that would be sweeter than winning any premier league title, the meltdown would be immense!

I think if he was to move though, it would be to Chelsea or Madrid!
 
I think what Brophs meant was that clubs have an understanding that won't try and sign up a player who decides to use that rule.

That may well be true but would not such an understanding be illegal? It would amount to the behaviour of an openly collusive cartel. And surely it would be impossible to enforce anyway. If Sterling bought himself out of his contract next December, and offered himself as a free agent, are we really suggesting there would be no takers?

I think the real bottom line is that there is little point in retaining the services of an unwilling footballer. It makes the player look bad and it makes the club look bad. So it seldom comes to this kind of showdown. In that sense, contracts are irrelevant anyway, except as a determinant of how much the club gets for the player. If Sterling wants to go in the summer, he will.
 
That may well be true but would not such an understanding be illegal? It would amount to the behaviour of an openly collusive cartel. And surely it would be impossible to enforce anyway. If Sterling bought himself out of his contract next December, and offered himself as a free agent, are we really suggesting there would be no takers?

I think the real bottom line is that there is little point in retaining the services of an unwilling footballer. It makes the player look bad and it makes the club look bad. So it seldom comes to this kind of showdown. In that sense, contracts are irrelevant anyway, except as a determinant of how much the club gets for the player. If Sterling wants to go in the summer, he will.

Tbh I have no idea about the legality of such a thing. But since there is nothing written you cannot prove it. Also, how can you fine/punish a club if it does not want to take on a certain player.

As for your point of whether he would have any takers should such a scenario arise, again, I am not sure. We can only speculate but I actually think that clubs would think more than twice before making a move for a player who has bought himself out under such controversial circumstances. As this would open an Pandora's box and could open up clubs (particularly the smaller ones) to lose players for next to nothing. I don't think anyone would want such a situation to arise.
 
Henderson will be able to demand £100 grand a week too now.

Yeah he could, but unlike Sterling he is less likely to get £100k a week elsewhere which is why he will "make do" with what he has at Liverpool.
 
Tbh I have no idea about the legality of such a thing. But since there is nothing written you cannot prove it. Also, how can you fine/punish a club if it does not want to take on a certain player.

Yes you can punish them if it's illegal. Happens to the banks all the time. Police can be brought in to investigate if necessary. People can be required to give evidence under oath in court and sent to jail if they lie. And with a couple of exceptions, most clubs are owned and run by law abiding people.

I actually think that clubs would think more than twice before making a move for a player who has bought himself out under such controversial circumstances.

In my view as they didn't seem that squeemish about complying with Bosman, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't care about this either. But it really only arises in a club that (a) tries to keep a player against his will and (b) pays him below his market value. That's pretty rare.
 
How much are we paying Shaw? £100k? Sterling should be getting at least £100k imo - can't believe I've just written that - but its true......£100k per week, every f**king week of the year. Wow.

If Liverpool continue to collapse this year and finish 7th/8th which looks likely at the moment I can see him holding off from signing a new contract until the summer and Liverpool being forced into a cheap(ish) sale. That would be funny to watch......
 
Does anyone by chance know who the highest earners are at Liverpool?
 
Probably Gerrard, Sturridge and Johnson (:()
Do you know any figures? Sterling certainly deserves to be paid more than Johnson (which he will next season) and something close enough to what Gerrard and Sturridge are getting paid.
 
Regardless of his age, he knows it, his agent knows it, the fans know it and the club do, he's one of the first names on the team sheet. Look at the way the team looked to him on Tuesday. He's become THE player with Sturridge out.

He'll be looking to get paid at the top end of the wage structure. He's in a very good position to ask for it. He'd be stupid not to.
 
Come now spinmasters... Invent a story on United going for him, offering 150k plus bonuses. Spread the word. I want to see some meltdown...

'I attend the same "fathers for justice" group / <insert other believable mutual venue> as Raheem Sterling and he told me last night that he dreams of making the switch to Old Trafford and that he was mortally offended by Liverpool's contract offer'

#ITK #Prisonerof Scouseland #FreeRaheem
 
He would suit us down to the ground and has no real loyalty to Liverpool. But I can see him going abroad if he doesn't sign a new contract which would probably be the best move for him.
 
Ah, forgot about Mario. Yeah I'm sure he'd be up there in the top earners list.
 
Henderson will be able to demand £100 grand a week too now.
Which club would give 100k/week to him though? Well, I can't guess of any.

If Sterling is available, I could see Chelsea, City, United and likely a few of European teams (like Madrid) to give him 100k+/week. If Henderson is available, I can't see any of those teams being interested on him, even if he would ask only for 70k/week or so (regardless that I think that Henderson was very good last season).
 
Sturridge is on £150k a week. Gerrard is on somewhere around £170k, but figures vary.
If Sturridge is getting paid that much, Sterling absolutely has a right to be annoyed at being offered a paltry £70k. £130k is something I'd be looking for if I was Sterling.

Gerrard's wages' are almost certainly going down next season too so there'll be some cash freed up.
 
He will sign a new deal.
Not even sure if he has rejected a contract. The usual agent leaking bits to get his client the best possible deal.
Nothing new here.
 
Rejecting £70,000 a week as a kid is ridiculous in my opinion, regardless of his place in the squad, he's still the unfinished product.

Why not? Its a short career so try and earn as much as possible, because you'll still have another 40 odd years to live once you're done.
 
I bet Rawk are loving this.:D

EDIT. I can't actually see anything about this on Rawk. I guess they banned it because it was a negative.
What a forum lol.:lol:
 
A mixed reaction from me of
- LOL @ Liverpool
- He'll sign
- Er, let's nick him ...
- ... er, maybe not
- He'll definitely sign as he's been a must-pick for them, they'll offer him what he wants (eventually)
 
He's locked for Madrid anyway for me, maybe not this particular time but he's going to Madrid in the future imo.
 
That's a terrible offer from Liverpool to be fair.
 
As an important first teamer, he's probably targeting 90k - 120k. Will never come here but I'd love to see Madrid swoop for him, and Liverpool go back to where they belong. Bottom half.
 
He's locked for Madrid anyway for me, maybe not this particular time but he's going to Madrid in the future imo.
At this stage in his career from a pure footballing sense it is best for him to stay at Liverpool where he is one of their main players and plays every week in a team that is set up to get the best out of him without the intense pressure and expectations at a club like Madrid or Barca as it is very important that he keeps developing and improving. Moving to a club where he may not play so often could be very detrimental for him. Right now his main focus should be to keep improving and bettering himself and if down the line he feels that he has gone as far as he can at Liverpool (like Torres and Suarez did) and what is best for his career at that point is to move then he should but I do not feel that right now is the best time.
 
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