Sterling rejects new deal | Telegraph

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He's just seen an injured Sturridge sign a £150k a week deal; I'd tell them exactly the same.

If he bides his time their offer will be increasing to around the £125k mark over the next year. Hell he'll probably get around £150k if he goes into the last 3-6 months of his contract and they risk losing him on a free.
 
Spielmacher said:
Hey, he was United fan, once you play for the mighty Liverpool at the magic Anfield Road you automatically become a huge Liverpool fan.
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Exactly. That club "has a lasting hold on players who dawn the red shirt."

Except Suarez. But he was shite anyway.
 
glazed said:
Aren't their rules about how you can buy yourself out of contract after 3 years? He's two years into a 5 year contract so he can leave next Xmas for the sum of 2 years wages - not very high wages thanks to scouse stingyness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_ruling
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No one uses that rule. I know that G14 (or whatever they were called) had an agreement they wouldn't use the rule and everyone else seems to have followed. Given how long it's existed for without being utilitised I would imagine it's unlikely to be used.
 
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No one uses that rule. I know that G14 (or whatever they were called) had an agreement they wouldn't use the rule and everyone else seems to have followed. Given how long it's existed for without being utilitised I would imagine it's unlikely to be used.
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It's not up to them. It's up to to the player. But you're right. It's traditionally more of a bargaining chip. Release me on your terms or lose me anyway.
 
Brophs said:
No one uses that rule. I know that G14 (or whatever they were called) had an agreement they wouldn't use the rule and everyone else seems to have followed. Given how long it's existed for without being utilitised I would imagine it's unlikely to be used.
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I don't think it was the G14 that decided that (I don't think they even exist anymore although I might be wrong) as its not a decision they can make as its a player decision not a club decision.

I think there's an unwritten agreement between all agents though that they won't use it as it opens a whole can of worms where trust is concerned as it makes contracts of players 24 and over (again, I think) worth a lot less than they should be.
 
Even if he wanted to come to United I think he would be afraid to make that move due to the abuse he would get. I reckon he would join City who would want another English player or Chelsea.
 
Perhaps not only does he think that 70k a week isn't enough, but he's also thinking of his career. He's 20 and a massive talent in the game, regardless of his form ATM. The next stage of his career is going to be a very important one, and lets be honest, why would you want to spend those years at Liverpool? He would have a list of big clubs competing for his signature if he doesn't sign a new contract. Regardless of whatever Liverpool offer him now, he would be wise to stall for a year or so and assess his options. I can see him ending up at Chelsea tbh.
 
glazed said:
Down to agents acting honourably then? Well that should work out well...
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Not honourably, smart. If one of them breaks the deal and uses the Webster ruling, all other clubs will get paranoid and that makes contracts more complicated from there on in. It essentially makes the last 2 years of a contract not worth the paper it's written on. Players worth £70m could move for £20m.
 
Yeah I don't think it's necessarily the money at the minute. I think he's more than likely seeing what options he may have.
 
devil in me said:
Perhaps not only does he think that 70k a week isn't enough, but he's also thinking of his career. He's 20 and a massive talent in the game, regardless of his form ATM. The next stage of his career is going to be a very important one, and lets be honest, why would you want to spend those years at Liverpool? He would have a list of big clubs competing for his signature if he doesn't sign a new contract. Regardless of whatever Liverpool offer him now, he would be wise to stall for a year or so and assess his options. I can see him ending up at Chelsea tbh.
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He doesnt want to end up like Suarez and be nearly 28 and only have played in the group stages of the CL. Why stick it out with Liverpool and take the risk of missing the Cl regularly when you can go somewhere else like Chelsea or City where its guaranteed.
 
What's his age got to do with it? He should be paid what's he's worth, hes top 3 in regards to influence/performances in that team, therefore he should be paid an equivalent wage.
 
ivaldo said:
What's his age got to do with it? He should be paid what's he's worth, hes top 3 in regards to influence/performances in that team, therefore he should be paid an equivalent wage.
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Well if you pay the player well enough then Webster confers no financial advantage. It's only underpaid players that seek to buy themselves out. In almost all circumstances the club recognises that they're underpaid and rectifies it. But Rogers had this self serving phony moralistic idea about how young players shouldn't get big wages because it's bad for them. Would serve him right if Sterling now exacts revenge.
 
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devil in me said:
Regardless of whatever Liverpool offer him now, he would be wise to stall for a year or so and assess his options. I can see him ending up at Chelsea tbh.
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Chelsea at the moment have enough good players in his position in the squad, academy and on loan. Sterling has had one and half good seasons and he feels he is worth more than 100K. This will not be acceptable at Chelsea where even Schurrle is not earning that much.
 
glazed said:
Well if you pay the player well enough then Webster confers no financial advantage. It's only underpaid players that seek to buy themselves out. In almost all circumstances the club recognises that they're underpaid and rectifies it. But Rogers had this self serving phony moralistic idea about how young players shouldn't get big wages because it's bad for them. Would serve him right if Sterling now exacts revenge.
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I'm not sure what this has got to do with my post, but okay...
 
Must cost a bomb to maintain his hairstyle and I'm sure Ed wouldn't have a problem chucking 100k a week at him, sign him up!
 
Hemil said:
Chelsea at the moment have enough good players in his position in the squad, academy and on loan. Sterling has had one and half good seasons and he feels he is worth more than 100K. This will not be acceptable at Chelsea where even Schurrle is not earning that much.
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Sterling is good enough now to warrant a place in the Chelsea squad, let alone in a couple of years time. He's already better than Willian and any other academy player that you have there right now.
 
Pity he plays for Liverpool. The only way we're signing him is on a free in 2 years time. Start tapping him up now.
 
devil in me said:
Sterling is good enough now to warrant a place in the Chelsea squad, let alone in a couple of years time. He's already better than Willian and any other academy player that you have there right now.
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Willian is a player who is unique in the world and is in the Chelsea team for his qualities of pace and power and not guile and dribbling. Jose likes him as a cover to Ivanovic when he bombs forward. I haven't seen Sterling tracking back till now. Besides, we already have Schurrle too. If we need a player in his position, we need an upgrade like Reus.
 
Hemil said:
Willian is a player who is unique in the world and is in the Chelsea team for his qualities of pace and power and not guile and dribbling. Jose likes him as a cover to Ivanovic when he bombs forward. I haven't seen Sterling tracking back till now. Besides, we already have Schurrle too. If we need a player in his position, we need an upgrade like Reus.
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Willian unique? Jeez.

Sterling is good at tracking back too though - well...he was last season anyway, not as good defensively this time.
 
Hemil said:
Willian is a player who is unique in the world and is in the Chelsea team for his qualities of pace and power and not guile and dribbling. Jose likes him as a cover to Ivanovic when he bombs forward. I haven't seen Sterling tracking back till now. Besides, we already have Schurrle too. If we need a player in his position, we need an upgrade like Reus.
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Willian? Really?

The only way Willian is unique is that he's a £30m winger who's better at tracking back than he is at scoring goals.
 
There's no way Sterling will end up at Chelsea. He's too young and whilst there is a lot, there still is development of talent needed. Mourinho doesn't like that sort of stuff.
 
Not too worried about this. Everything I've heard about his agent has been negative, but to be fair, I'd take the club for a ride in his situation too.

And reading the Independent article, it sounds as if this is a money thing as their 'source' says he's committed to the club.
 
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Hemil said:
Willian is a player who is unique in the world and is in the Chelsea team for his qualities of pace and power and not guile and dribbling. Jose likes him as a cover to Ivanovic when he bombs forward. I haven't seen Sterling tracking back till now. Besides, we already have Schurrle too. If we need a player in his position, we need an upgrade like Reus.
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Willian is a bit average. For all his pace and power he didn't stand a chance against Smalling in terms of pace. He's solid defensively though.
 
Hemil said:
Willian is a player who is unique in the world and is in the Chelsea team for his qualities of pace and power and not guile and dribbling. Jose likes him as a cover to Ivanovic when he bombs forward. I haven't seen Sterling tracking back till now. Besides, we already have Schurrle too. If we need a player in his position, we need an upgrade like Reus.
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Reus on the bench?
 
Chelsea and City will probably be interested, he kills two birds with one stone for 'em as he's English.
 
Rossa said:
Willian is a bit average. For all his pace and power he didn't stand a chance against Smalling in terms of pace. He's solid defensively though.
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If you think Willian's average then you don't understand Mourinho. Ask him who out of Hazard and Willian who would be harder to replace and he'd probably tell you Willian. Mourinho builds teams around players like him, who always put in 100%, who combine tactical intelligence, teachability, hard work and technical skill, who can play possession football, counter-attacking football and just plain park-the-bus football with equal commitment.

Look at who is given the key role in those difficult games where Mourinho decides to play very defensively and score on the counter - Willian. He's the guy who has to pitch in with the defending but also keep himself in the right position to spring the inevitable counter-attack. Last season's Liverpool game is a good example - both of the brutal counter-attacks near the end of the game (one of which produced the goal which settled it) were started by Willian through his perfect positioning, pace, and brilliant execution of a counter.

(OT I know but I see this opinion a fair bit and it irritates me.)
 
He doesnt have any affiliation to liverpool, he isnt a scouse youth product, he will probably just follow the money.
 
Brightonian said:
If you think Willian's average then you don't understand Mourinho. Ask him who out of Hazard and Willian who would be harder to replace and he'd probably tell you Willian. Mourinho builds teams around players like him, who always put in 100%, who combine tactical intelligence, teachability, hard work and technical skill, who can play possession football, counter-attacking football and just plain park-the-bus football with equal commitment.

Look at who is given the key role in those difficult games where Mourinho decides to play very defensively and score on the counter - Willian. He's the guy who has to pitch in with the defending but also keep himself in the right position to spring the inevitable counter-attack. Last season's Liverpool game is a good example - both of the brutal counter-attacks near the end of the game (one of which produced the goal which settled it) were started by Willian through his perfect positioning, pace, and brilliant execution of a counter.

(OT I know but I see this opinion a fair bit and it irritates me.)
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Your probably not that far off the mark, and I did exaggerate a bit calling him average. He's a very useful player. That being said, Hazard also works a lot defensively and is just as quick as Willian is.

Willian is a handy player and probably does a lot of things that go unnoticed. However, to say that he is unique is a bit over the top. He's a bit like Valencia was a couple of seasons ago, with less pace and power but more technique and guile.
 
In what world is getting paid £70k a week unacceptable? I would literally murder someone for that sort of money.

Anyway, I'd love us to sign him... if he wasn't just going to sit in a que with Rooney, Mata, Fallaini, Di Maria and Januzaj for the #10 position.
 
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