I never heard about these rumours. Can you elaborate?
Stephen Ireland - We could do with him
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I never heard about these rumours. Can you elaborate?
I rate him highly.
Well the rumours have circulated on various forums. To be honest it could be all bollox but something must have really pissed Ireland off to retire from International football. Someone just posted this article in this thread already and it does not give any concrete evidence at all but the same rumour keeps doing the rounds so maybe there is an element of truth in it. I have also seen the same rumour talked about on the Irish site www.elevenaside.com
http://www.universityobserver.ie/200...same-old-trap/
....Instead, we are happy to make Ireland out as the villain, to accede to the demands of the likes of Stephen Hunt, who bullied Ireland out of the squad to begin with. Surely if the choice is placating the likes of Hunt, who has the fi rst touch of Dirk Kuyt on ice skates, or picking a midfi elder who could add true dynamism we have lacked ever since, dare I say it, Roy Keane donned the Irish jersey, surely Trap and his lieutenants can only have one choice? A true pragmatist would win at all costs, even if that meant spiting himself to pick the best team.
Sadly, we have the wrong man for that in Giovanni Trapattoni, and we will not see Stephen Ireland under the present management, and likely under the next regime. This means that this qualifying group will likely go on to be a damp squib for us, with an inevitably elimination at the hands of a second rate nation in the play-offs.
Never want to see that twat in a United shirt, he's a complete prick!
It bothers me to think he might someday wear an Ireland shirt after all the embarssment he created for our football community with regards to his Grannie's etc.. but we need a player of his quality - which we dont have already
It bothers me to think he might someday wear an Ireland shirt after all the embarssment he created for our football community with regards to his Grannie's etc.. but we need a player of his quality - which we dont have already
Huh! I never heard that before. I know someone on the staff of the Ireland squad and have discussed with him at length about various things including Stephen Ireland, and he has never mentioned that. It's a strange one.
I hadn't heard about them attacking him in his room, but it was suggested that they put him on the ground during training and all tried to pull it off. Stephen Hunt all but admitted it on the Late, Late Show.
Though this is a quote from the Independent:
There are also suggestions Ireland has been taunted by team-mates over an alleged hair transplant, or hairpiece, resulting in two team-mates pinning him to the floor and attempting to remove the "evidence". Reading's Irish full-back Stephen Hunt has denied this. "There wasn't even any banter about his hair. It's grown four inches in a year. He knows that," he said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...x-ireland-out-of-irish-retirement-808215.html
I'm sure I've seen him admit it though
Though this is a quote from the Independent:
There are also suggestions Ireland has been taunted by team-mates over an alleged hair transplant, or hairpiece, resulting in two team-mates pinning him to the floor and attempting to remove the "evidence". Reading's Irish full-back Stephen Hunt has denied this. "There wasn't even any banter about his hair. It's grown four inches in a year. He knows that," he said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...x-ireland-out-of-irish-retirement-808215.html
I'm sure I've seen him admit it though
Ireland should expect a bit of slagging for the hair thing though. Stephen Hunt isn't one to slag though, feckin Traveller.
The rumour of some of his Ireland team-mates taking the piss out of him regarding his hair, have been spoken at length by everyone, even by Dunphy & Giles etc on RTE..
I think Ireland is just a proper gobshite & the influence of his bird hasnt done him any favours either!
Cant see him coming back anytime soon, as he's let this episode drag on far too much, and he most likely feels the Country is embarassed by his actions & doesnt want to be anywhere near the Irish football public as he fears he'll get taken to the cleaners - which he will - but it wont last forever so the sooner he takes it on the chim the better for all concerned!
I think Ireland is just a proper gobshite & the influence of his bird hasnt done him any favours either!
Cant see him coming back anytime soon, as he's let this episode drag on far too much, and he most likely feels the Country is embarassed by his actions & doesnt want to be anywhere near the Irish football public as he fears he'll get taken to the cleaners - which he will - but it wont last forever so the sooner he takes it on the chim the better for all concerned!
Spot on - he's a shitebag alright!
He is just a young lad RHD. Everyone seems to have an opinion on the lad - but he is very quiet and does not handle the media well. In my opinion he needs an arm around his shoulders and a word in his ear.
I often think how unfair it is the way people slate someone like Adriano for falling out of love with the game. We have no idea of the background these people come from and expect them to take to it like a duck to water, like how difficult must it be to live your life under the gaze of the world, not least nowadays with the internet and forums and all that. We don't know if they have a strong family support or not, which probably leads to many of the problems.
I just think it's not right that Ireland made a decision to lie when in the worst situation of his life just so he could get back to his missus, and the whole country makes a laughing stock out of him.
I'm not a huge Stephen Ireland fan (despite the article I posted on the previous page), and his pink rims and angel tattoo are ridiculous. But give the man a break, he obviously isn't 100% all there and I'd like to see all of you stand up to the pressures people like him do.
I just think it's not right that Ireland made a decision to lie when in the worst situation of his life just so he could get back to his missus, and the whole country makes a laughing stock out of him.
I'm not a huge Stephen Ireland fan (despite the article I posted on the previous page), and his pink rims and angel tattoo are ridiculous. But give the man a break, he obviously isn't 100% all there and I'd like to see all of you stand up to the pressures people like him do.
Completely agree. The boy is off the mark a bit but come on under the scrunity these guys play under 3/4s of the year if you're not completely sound you're bound to fall off a bit.
With they way the rumors are going, I'd stay away from the locker room too. There's a profound difference between teasing and bulling and pinning a kid (he's still pretty damn young) and trying to pull his hair off when it's clear he's already embarrassed is a travesty.
I can't imagine Keane standing by and allowing that to happen to one of his fellow team mates if he were still captain of Ireland. Stuff like that leads kids to use knives in the UK and guns in the US and all the media can do is egg it on, pathetic.
He made a mistake but under the circumstances pinning him on a cross is for people who just don't like him. He's got a weird sense of well everything but he's not out sleeping around with wild women, getting rape charges once a year, drinking and driving, etc. If the worst you have to worry about when having him on the team is a crap selection of tattoos and pink rims in today's modern world with modern footballers that's not too shabby.
I don't want to come off as overly defending him because although he's really shown a talent this season he's still a tosser but the unrelentless abuse he gets over buying a pair of rims and tattoos is beyond me...
well said davis.
he's had an unusual childhood in that he was off to Manchester with his mother and young brother when he was only 15 or so. his Dad stayed behind in Cobh and still lives there.
add to that the expectations heaped upon him by a small Irish town and the money thrown at him at a young age no wonder he's made a few mistakes. he's hardly killed anyone has he? apart from both his grannies
that all said I'd still like him to change his mind on the Rep team.
he's had an unusual childhood in that he was off to Manchester with his mother and young brother when he was only 15 or so. his Dad stayed behind in Cobh and still lives there.
add to that the expectations heaped upon him by a small Irish town and the money thrown at him at a young age no wonder he's made a few mistakes. he's hardly killed anyone has he? apart from both his grannies
that all said I'd still like him to change his mind on the Rep team.
hunt didnt bully him - it sounded like a bit of banter which ireland took the wrong way....
remember this is a guy who lied about grannies dying and miscarriages so he didnt have to play for ireland - that sounds like something a 12 year old would come out with
he's obviously a talented player but i think he's a bit of a strange character - maybe a bit mentally unstable
remember this is a guy who lied about grannies dying and miscarriages so he didnt have to play for ireland - that sounds like something a 12 year old would come out with
he's obviously a talented player but i think he's a bit of a strange character - maybe a bit mentally unstable
I like Ireland.
He DID NOT lie about a miscarriage. To be honest, losing a child is a good enough excuse to leave international duty, he panicked, so what?
But why did he have to lie in the first place, considering that losing a child is more than good enough reason to leave international duty? And not only did he lie once, he did so twice. For a professional footballer and a rolemodel to so many people that's just unacceptable.
He didn't, but the point I've made about five times in this thread is that he panicked, and I have no idea what that;s like. His responsibility as a role model was hardly the first thing on his mind.
I think that he lied because for whatever reason he was under pressure. When your scared of something, you can become irrational and you can develop a blindspot
Which is to say you focus on one thing but you don't think about the bigger picture and obviously it's so high profile people will say your weird etc.....
If it was me, i'd beat the feck out of who is responsible because Eire don't have the players to mess about and these people are denying the irish public the best chance to qualify for tournaments again - IF he has been bullied or whatever
Regardless people should be willing to understand some people need more support then others...
I wouldn't hold Ireland responsible - You can't do much about someones mental 'make up'.
Irelands a goal scoring midfielder and the challenge for him is to maintain this consistancy next season
Which is to say you focus on one thing but you don't think about the bigger picture and obviously it's so high profile people will say your weird etc.....
If it was me, i'd beat the feck out of who is responsible because Eire don't have the players to mess about and these people are denying the irish public the best chance to qualify for tournaments again - IF he has been bullied or whatever
Regardless people should be willing to understand some people need more support then others...
I wouldn't hold Ireland responsible - You can't do much about someones mental 'make up'.
Irelands a goal scoring midfielder and the challenge for him is to maintain this consistancy next season
Fully agree - it must be a painful thing to deal with emotionally, but where is he now ? He'd be forgiven and welcomed back with great support if he held his hands up and came back, but he's the one continuing his self-imposed exile and in my eyes he's a bloody disgrace. The guy is a f*cking fruit-cake, he was causing trouble at U-18 level under Kerr too, walking out, refusing to be a sub, not answering calls until he was confirmed as a first team starter etc. C*nt of a man, plain and simple.
I like the way you started your post in a easy-going/understanding manner then let it all out - damning the fecker to hell & back then back to hell - top post
Kerr brought him away from Man City where he was trying to establish himself to sit on a bench in Cork for an Irish u-18 game.
maybe only he and Kerr know the truth behind this but what if Kerr promised him a game in front of Cork fans and then changed his mind. how would you feel if that had happened to you? maybe the fact that Stephen's Dad had played u-17 for the Rep. on Cobh Rambler's pitch one time had something to do with his reaction.
a lot of people are making judgements on this lad and the only facts we know is that he's a really good footballer. the rest doesn't matter. he's not a Joey Barton type for God's sake.
maybe only he and Kerr know the truth behind this but what if Kerr promised him a game in front of Cork fans and then changed his mind. how would you feel if that had happened to you? maybe the fact that Stephen's Dad had played u-17 for the Rep. on Cobh Rambler's pitch one time had something to do with his reaction.
a lot of people are making judgements on this lad and the only facts we know is that he's a really good footballer. the rest doesn't matter. he's not a Joey Barton type for God's sake.
He's the coach, he gets to decide, rightly or wrongly. If he changed his mind, so be it. Stephen Ireland doesn't get to decide when or where he plays-he doesn't have a divine right to be in the team.
As for how I'd feel, I'd like to think I'd work even harder in future and make him pick me the next time, not throw a tantrum.
But, as you say, he's a good footballer, that's the bottom line. I just reckon if he had a bit more upstairs he'd be an even better one. But you have to play the hand you're dealt.
playing the devils advocate: maybe he feels that he owes the Rep nothing?
remember everything he has, he got from Man City. City brought him over as a kid, gave him access to the best facilities and whatnot, guided his career into what it is now.
and maybe his Dad felt he got a raw deal from the FAI when he was a youngster?
who the hell knows?
remember everything he has, he got from Man City. City brought him over as a kid, gave him access to the best facilities and whatnot, guided his career into what it is now.
and maybe his Dad felt he got a raw deal from the FAI when he was a youngster?
who the hell knows?
Look who stole his hair
He's impressed me seemingly every time I've watched him.
Are you trying to build the worlds ugliest team?
Recently in Cork it's been considered even more rebellious than normal to refuse to play representative sport because of some high-minded, perceived insults. You know who to blame for this.
IMHO,
Ireland = Traitor.
Who wouldn't give their right or left arm to play for your country and possibly represent it in a World Cup?
IMHO,
Ireland = Traitor.
Who wouldn't give their right or left arm to play for your country and possibly represent it in a World Cup?
So he can't handle sitting on a bench and has a right to start games he deems fit?
This is complete garbage. I'd give anything just to sit on a bench for an ireland game.
He's a very good player from what I've seem of him, he's young and bound to get better too. With Giggs and Scholes nearing the end of their careers we could do with a promising midfielder like him.
Took the Red Bull motto a tad too seriously.
Their U-18 days? Hunt is 5 years older than Ireland.
Of course you would. You are not a top class footballer. I would give my right arm just to have a kick around with the international team. But Stephen Ireland is a top class player and why the hell would he want to sit on the bench whilst absolutely shite players like Glenn Whelan and Keith Andrews get their game over him?
Same reason Fergie for some many years was able to convince Giggs to not attend every Wales game; sometimes there's no point. The lad was/ is young and if he'd rather stay and fight for a place on the City team than travel with a team who showed they didn't want him by continually bullying him and a nation who labeled him a traitor when he freaked out and lied, then to City supporters he's being labeled a professional.
Scholes quit the national team when he felt he wasn't being used properly, no one threw a huge fit. Fact of the matter is Ireland the country just doesn't produce the players they used to and your best player doesn't want to play so you throw a fit instead of trying to bring him back. You're not a professional player, who pays him? City do and if Ireland isn't going to play the lad and drag him through the mud, he's not going to go. When you can get a manager who welcomes him back and tries to get him back your team will get better.
Fergie has dealt with Ronaldo's madonna-like attitude, Ireland hasn't had a manager who'd be willing do do that and play man manager and until you get that he wont come back. Even Keano went on the Late Late program and said he'd do anything to get Ireland back in the team if he's manager and sometimes you have to baby players; almost seemed as though he was being protective saying you can't judge him because you have no idea what he's been through.
It's people like you who are keeping him away.
He should tattoo some hair on.
I've had Ireland on my fantasy team, nearly the entire season. He's probably been the most consistant player of the year, as far as scoring points throughout.
It's his passion and focus that puts him above most others.
But that's just my opinion of the matter.
It's his passion and focus that puts him above most others.
But that's just my opinion of the matter.
