Stars and Reserves Draft - Winner: Gio

btw does no game rule apply for stars as well? :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Yes that was the intention, I kept the respective players in the lists because I wouldn't do the research to check if there is a game available somewhere.
 
Yes that was the intention, I kept the respective players in the lists because I wouldn't do the research to check if there is a game available somewhere.

tbh i was shocked when i saw there is nothing as there is a decent amount of normal compilation about the guy
 
Needs at least 1 game available online

Have a game available on DVD of a great 50's player whose full matches don't exist anywhere online for sure, but too lazy to somehow get it converted to upload. Maybe by the last pick I might ask someone to help if the team starts too look shite :lol:
 
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1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta

@Edgar Allan Pillow @Indnyc @oneniltothearsenal
 
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta
 
1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta

@Michaelf7777777 @cubemine
 
@Don Alfredo

I was thinking how to make the draft even more interesting to follow

Can't we have an initial drafting of 14 players as usual? Or 13?

It would
- make the teams less predictable in the sense you are not sure of the opposing starting 11 while adapting your strategy if necessary depending some opposing players
- enable managers to diversify the starting 11 and the tactical system in the draft (make the draft less boring if you always see the same tactical system with the same players)

In the same vein, can't we have:

R1: 2+1 star players
QF: 3+1 star players
SF and final: 4+1 star players

I'm fine whatever the rules :)
 
@Don Alfredo

I was thinking how to make the draft even more interesting to follow

Can't we have an initial drafting of 14 players as usual? Or 13?

It would
- make the teams less predictable in the sense you are not sure of the opposing starting 11 while adapting your strategy if necessary depending some opposing players
- enable managers to diversify the starting 11 and the tactical system in the draft (make the draft less boring if you always see the same tactical system with the same players)

In the same vein, can't we have:

R1: 2+1 star players
QF: 3+1 star players
SF and final: 4+1 star players

I'm fine whatever the rules :)

Do the opponent roll now.
 
@Don Alfredo

I was thinking how to make the draft even more interesting to follow

Can't we have an initial drafting of 14 players as usual? Or 13?

It would
- make the teams less predictable in the sense you are not sure of the opposing starting 11 while adapting your strategy if necessary depending some opposing players
- enable managers to diversify the starting 11 and the tactical system in the draft (make the draft less boring if you always see the same tactical system with the same players)

In the same vein, can't we have:

R1: 2+1 star players
QF: 3+1 star players
SF and final: 4+1 star players

I'm fine whatever the rules :)

The 12 players limit will stay because it is needed for how the reinforcements will work. I think I found a nice caveat for these, which will great fun for both managers and observers. We will reveal that when it's ready;)

Do the opponent roll now.

I always love these announcements and there needs to be some kind of weight to it as well. I want to see managers panicking in how to use their remaining picks to stay true to the philosophy while there is always the looming threat of your opponent being strong in your weak spot.

We can do it after round 7:cool:
 
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The first rule of the draft is don't change rules once the draft has started.
 
The first rule of the draft is don't change rules once the draft has started.

surely the first rule of the draft is that we dont speak about the draft
 
The first rule of the draft is don't change rules once the draft has started.

Aye, it's different in one of the random drafts like sheep or roulette, but surely something like this should be about showcasing the players rather than random twists and turns and throwing in more players that have been picked a thousand times before.
 
Relax lads:), the only twist will be the final reinforcement round, but that has been hinted at in the rules from the start and will be revealed before the first reinforcement round will start the latest.

I can safely promise you that the players in the block list are blocked forever and will never come back. This is no sheep draft where you suddenly get a free run at Beckenbauer :wenger:
 
Aye, it's different in one of the random drafts like sheep or roulette, but surely something like this should be about showcasing the players rather than random twists and turns and throwing in more players that have been picked a thousand times before.

Exactly what it should be about.
 
The 8 hour deadline is nearly over, but Michaelf7777777 has been here an hour ago. I assume the problem is his newbie status, which means that we can‘t see his posts until a moderator approves them.

@harms @Invictus to the rescue?

@Brwned is next and I advise everyone to send their next picks by PM. Just not to me right now because I will try to get some sleep:boring: Enigma has my pick.
 
Giacomo Bulgarelli will be my next selection

1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta
 
The 8 hour deadline is nearly over, but Michaelf7777777 has been here an hour ago. I assume the problem is his newbie status, which means that we can‘t see his posts until a moderator approves them.

@harms @Invictus to the rescue?
No, he can post freely at the moment.
 
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1. GodShaveTheQueen - 1) *D. Dzajic

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta

@GodShaveTheQueen
 
@Brwned

Please don't forget to leave your 3rd pick to Alfredo/Enigma if you had to leave soon
 
I'll never go beyond the 8hr limit - you can hold me to that.
 
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1. GodShaveTheQueen
- 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta
 
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@Don Alfredo

Please don't think my intention was to corrupt the spirit of the draft or make you change your plans. Like the other junkies, I love your draft.:drool:

My previous was driven by 2 considerations: room for improvement and room for change.

1- Regarding my suggestion to increase the number of star players at the end of the draft, I finally believe it was a bad idea because 1) not a good practice to change the rules in the midst of a wave of picks 2) against the spirit of the draft 3) there is the room to change the shape of a team with the current system

2- Regarding my suggestion to increase the number of players in the initial squad, I think it should be a standard practice for the future drafts whatever the rules. I like the idea of enabling someone to change drastically the shape of a team between 2 games. More players to be picked meant more usually ignored players to be picked. More players for more freedom, not more GOATS in a starting 11.

So my intention was healthy and I am certainly the most open guy here to see new faces in these drafts as I suggested several times a Losers Draft without success in 2016, 2017 and 2018 :)

Yeah, this is one of my suggestions: to ban the winners of the following competitions: World-Cup + Euro/Copa America + Champions League/European Cup. My intention was not to block the winners of the major leagues '

- 'Second-class leagueS' ---> guys who played in one of the 4 selected leagues (French,Dutch,Portuguese, Belgian...)
- The losers: guys who didn't win a major trophy (scope to be discussed: wc, euro, champions league...)
- Draft for players under 23 (or 24 or 25)

In the past, I tried to convince them to a opt for a "Losers Draft": players who never won a major trophy (World Cup, Champions League, Euro, Copa America....).

End of this discussion :angel:
 
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1. GodShaveTheQueen
- 1) *D. Dzajic 2) *K. Hamrin 3) O. Sivori

2. Brwned - 1) *M. Laudrup 2) M. Salah 3) ^L. Sane

3. Michaelf7777777/cubemine - 1) R. Bochini 2) G. Bulgarelli

4. Šjor Bepo/Pat_Mustard - 1) N. Liedholm 2) *O. Blokhin

5. EAP/Indy/OneNil - 1) *U. Seeler 2) W. Sagnol

6. Jim Beam/Invictus - 1) *H. Stoichkov 2) F. Albert

7. Don Alfredo - 1) *P. Nedved 2) C. Vieri

8. P-Nut0712/Arbitrium - 1) Neymar 2) ^J. Kimmich

9. Moby - 1) *Jairzinho 2) *Rivelino

10. green_smiley -1) K. Keegan 2) A. Simonsen

11. Gio - 1) *F. Gento 2) D. Savicevic

12. Physiocrat - 1) *T. Finney 2) J. Barnes

13. MJJ - 1) N. Kante 2) P. Pogba

14. Ecstatic - 1) *J. Greaves 2) *D. Beckham

15. Skizzo - 1) E. Cantona 2) A. Shearer

16. Himannv/2mufc0 - 1) *R. Kopa 2) A. Costacurta

Oh feck you.