Squillaci to the Arsenal

Gallas isn't the player he was a few years ago that is for sure. If he was still the player he was a few years ago I'd bet there would of been a fair few more clubs going after him.

A good signing for Spurs but I think for more than just footballing reasons we needed him to leave. He wasn't the most liked player in the club and we needed a fresh start at the back, Vermaelen has come off a very solid first season so need to build our back line around him rather than Gallas who is coming to the end of his career and had become a disruptive influence at the club.

Yeah I can see why it makes sense for you to be shot of him. He could still be a big success at Spurs though.

Reminds me of when we released Paul McGrath - he wasn't really able to cut it for us any more, but he did very well for a few seasons at Villa.

I quite like the look of your replacements. Squillaci has always looked solid, and although I don't know much about Koscielny, he played well against Liverpool, and Wenger's judgement with players from the French league is usually pretty good. Having said that, I still think Squillaci is not as good as Gallas at his best, and Koscielny has some way to go, so it could leave you with a bit of a weak spot, especially if Vermaelen gets injured.
 
Henry wanted to go after his marriage broke up - he wasn't half the player for Barca. Vieira couldn't really hack in in the PL any longer, why he's back at Man City is a complete mystery to me. Vieira and Emerson came to Highbury in 2006 with Juve and were run off their feet after 60 mins. Po' Pat crawled off the pitch.

He is Mancini's errand boy at City. If a player want to talk with Mancini they have to go through Vieira...
 
Yeah they've not done too well with Arsenal rejects. David Bentley, David Jenkins, Rohan Ricketts... Whereas we've had Jimmy Robertson, Pat Jennings and Sol Campbell off them.

I suppose you'd have to give them Clive Allen but we did get Kenny Sansom as a result so I think we did better.
 
@Gooner fans: who do you think will be your starting CBs as Toto is currently better than Koscielny

based purely on the fact that AW targeted Koscielny from the beginning and signed Squillaci in a last minute, ad hoc manner -- I'd guess Vermin-Kos.

But you see that my reasons for thinking so aren't very compelling.
 
How new Arsenal signing Sebastien Squillaci compares to other centre-backs at the club
Frenchman's qualities to boost Gunners' rearguard...

ANALYSIS
By Andy Brassell

Having already made his big defensive investment of the summer with his £8.5 million outlay on Laurent Koscielny, Arsene Wenger has been more typically creative with his latest reinforcement. The arrival of France international Sebastien Squillaci from Sevilla is a typically unglamourous Wenger signing, but could be the touch of experience at the back that Arsenal have been crying out for.

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'Is Sebastien Squillaci tough enough for the Premier League?' Goal.com UK readers tweet their questions about Arsenal's latest signing
So what will Squillaci add to the mix? Goal.com UK examines his qualities next to those of his new central defensive colleagues.....

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A strong suit. Though Squillaci is tall rather than towering at 6'1, he anticipates the flight of the ball and the forward's first move well. Arsenal have arguably lacked a defensive leader since the departure of Kolo Toure - someone who can give them authority at defensive set pieces.

Arsenal's vulnerability to straight, long balls has been a problem for far too long - Squillaci has the presence to put a stop to this. Wenger will hope he can pass on his mastery of these situations to the less experienced Koscielny and Djourou.

Better than: Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny, Johan Djourou

Anticipation

This is a key area in which Arsenal's centre-back pairing, whoever they may be, have to improve this year. As already mentioned elsewhere in these pages, Thomas Vermaelen's major fault is being drawn towards the ball too easily, and he has a tendency to overcommit. Squillaci is not afraid of a last-ditch challenge should the situation demand it, but is far more sanguine.


Caught out | The excellent Vermaelen has occasionally been left short-handed

Squillaci's first instinct is to block and jockey, rather than watch an attacking move escalate. At Lyon he formed an effective partnership with Cris. Though neither of them were blessed with breakneck speed, they became excellent at helping each other out. If Cris went towards the ball, Squillaci would always make himself available to sweep up behind his skipper.

Better than: Vermaelen, Djourou
Comparable to: Koscielny

Pace

This is the area in which the former Monaco man could conceivably come unstuck, and could give him the odd problem early on in his Arsenal career as he strives to come to terms with the hurly-burly nature of the Premier League. Squillaci tends to rely on his reading of the game to make a pre-emptive strike, rather than leave himself one-on-one with a forward.

For this reason, Koscielny or Djourou might be a good match for him in the centre of defence. Squillaci can play right or left of centre, but deployment on the left would give Koscielny the opportunity to cover him diagonally - the quicker Gael Givet, now of Blackburn, did this well when the pair played together at Monaco. Alternatively, Gael Clichy can come across from left-back.

Worse than: Koscielny, Djourou, Vermaelen

Strength

Squillaci made his name as a muscular, physical competitor in Ligue 1; these were exactly the characteristics that attracted Manolo Jimenez to buy him for his traditionally rugged Sevilla side back in 2008. The Frenchman should have little difficulty in absorbing the blows which come with being a Premier League defender.

This is an aspect of the English game which Vermaelen also took to very quickly. Received wisdom is two such players don't complement one another, though the Belgian's desire to bring the ball out of defence, as well as the successful partnership between two 'destroyers' in Alex and John Terry at Chelsea, suggests this would not necessarily be the case.

Better than: Koscielny, Djourou
Comparable to: Vermaelen

Passing

Brought up in sides that expect to play out from the back, Squillaci is no mug on the ball, without exactly being Rio Ferdinand either. Clearly some degree of competence in possession is vital when playing for Arsenal and the 30-year-old meets this criteria; the evolution in the likes of Tony Adams and Steve Bould in the early years of Wenger's reign suggest that Squillaci could even improve is his new environment.

Arsenal's rhythm will be kept going by Squillaci at the very least. Koscielny is more stylish and Vermaelen tends to demand the ball more, but the former Lyon man is a sober and appropriate foil for either player in this sense. Alex Song's growing presence in the fetcher/carrier role means Squillaci will always be the centre-back to hang back.

Comparable to: Djourou
Worse than: Vermaelen, Koscielny

Temperament

Without being especially agricultural, 'Toto' picks up his share of bookings - he took five in just 16 La Liga appearances last season - but this reflects more on his 100 per cent commitment and his profile as an old-fashioned, no-nonsense centre-back rather than any short fuse.


Competitor | Squillaci proved his top-level pedigree while at Lyon

It's the other half of his temperament which will interest Arsenal fans more - his winning mentality. Squillaci's career has been littered with trophies (seven), from the Ligue 2 title win back in 2002 while on loan at Ajaccio, through winning the championship in both his years at Lyon (including a double in 2008) and being topped off by Sevilla's Spanish Cup win in May.

He has extensive Champions League experience, and was an important figure in Monaco's thrilling run to the 2004 Champions League final. In short, Squillaci has big-match knowhow in abundance.

Better than: Koscielny, Vermaelen, Djourou

Summary

There is little suggestion that Squillaci will be the first name on the team sheet at the Emirates, but there is a strong chance he will become a key member of Wenger's squad, particularly as the season draws on.

His experience - plus his ability to communicate, both football-wise and with French as a first language - with his central defence colleagues could bring much-needed calm to what has in the past often been a harried Arsenal backline.
How new Arsenal signing Sebastien Squillaci compares to other centre-backs at the club - Goal.com

but it's goal.com so none of it is true

"Arsenal have arguably lacked a defensive leader since the departure of Kolo Toure - someone who can give them authority at defensive set pieces." :lol:
 
squallaci will at least give them options in the wake of gallas departure. gallas came aboard because arsene never saw a frog he didn't rate, but the man has proven a cancer in every team he's ever played for. @ chelski, with his want-away-to-arse saga, the the frentche national team, losing the l'arse captaincy due to being a douce, etc, etc, ad nauseam.

gallas = suck. senderos = suck. but they've acknowledged that this season and are progressing forward with this transfer. squallaci is an upgrade and should partner vermaelen well.
 
I wont be surprised if Squillaci ends up first choice with Koscielny a backup. But those feckers at Sevilla have signed Alexis for 5 million euros to replace Squillaci. And Valencia are probably going to regret that.
 
Let's hope he's not another Cygan, Luzhny, Stepanovs, Tavlaridis.

He's proven himself in la liga and european competition. More-so than Koscielny has, so if someone is going to join Arsenal's long list of average foreign defenders then its him.
 
It's funny how Glaston questioned Vermaelen on the first page of this thread but never had a problem with Verthongen when Spurs were signing him.
 
It's funny how Glaston questioned Vermaelen on the first page of this thread but never had a problem with Verthongen when Spurs were signing him.

Its all Levy mate. Since Levy is the be all and end all of English football, and gives information directly to Glaston, we can never be in doubt of Spurs over performing and over achieving.
 
It's funny how Glaston questioned Vermaelen on the first page of this thread but never had a problem with Verthongen when Spurs were signing him.

You make it sound as if I criticised Vermaelen in that post, when in effect I merely said that it remained to be seen (at that time) if he would adapt well to the Prem.

The same is obviously true of Vertonghen.

But don't let that stop you from getting your knickers in a twist.
 
You make it sound as if I criticised Vermaelen in that post, when in effect I merely said that it remained to be seen (at that time) if he would adapt well to the Prem.

The same is obviously true of Vertonghen.

But don't let that stop you from getting your knickers in a twist.

You've not voiced your doubts over Verthongen, not even once.
 
Considering its a made up deviation of a word there is no correct spelling anyway, didn't stop Shakespeare, sure as hell won't stop me!
 
You've not voiced your doubts over Verthongen, not even once.

Does "doubt" equate to pointing out that a player's adaption to the Prem - before they've actually played a league game - remains to be seen?

I guess it does in your strange little world, where desperation to point-score seems to reign supreme.

But for me, a wait-and-see approach is neutral (and sensible), not critical/doubtful. Thus I've no reason to be currently doubtful of Vertonghen.
 
Yet you couldn't help but lecture us all on how we weren't being critical/doubtful enough about Kagawa :boring:

Again, this is not true. I didn't criticise Kagawa, nor say that the MUFC supporters should be more critical/doubtful.

I merely said that hyping him up to the extreme levels displayed (in the thread concerned) was premature, pending his actual performances in the league. That remains the case.
 
Nah, people are lazy, he's an easy target. It's not the first time it's happened (Scholesy)...

Then again, they didn't do themselves any favors with their posts
 
Why'd you think that might be?

Because Spurs are such bitter rivals?

It's sometimes fine, but in this thread he's not said much wrong. At least not in comparison to the absolutely terrible predictions by some earlier in this thread. I thought he was going to challenge to be first choice and be Carling Cup captain. :nervous: