Squillaci to the Arsenal

cesc's_mullet said:
:lol:

Who the feck are you trying to kid?

We offered Gallas a contract on our terms. He wanted ridiculous money, ... He's clearly after his last big pay-check before he retires (and fair enough). A far more illustrious club in Juventus offered him a multi-year contract which he turned down. Along come the Spuds with their check-book out and here we are.
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Gallas is being paid by Spurs significantly less than what he was offered to stay at Arsenal.

Squirm your Spurs "check-book" way out of that one.
 
GlastonSpur said:
What bollocks.

If you want rid of a player whose contract is about to expire, you just let them go. You don't offer them a contact worth 80k per week for 1 year, or 50k per week for 2 years.

The squirming of Arsenal fans around the facts on this issue is highly amusing.
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So you're basically trying to convince yourself that he was offered a highly lucrative deal at Arsenal but went to Spurs, because...?
 
peterstorey said:
The first being a spectacular and fit success. Gallas is another permacrock just what you need eh?
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So, we are just two games into the season, and already one of the two new Arsenal CBs is proven to be a "spectacular and fit success", whilst Gallas will be just "another permacrock".

:lol: :lol: :lol:

My, my ... this is all too much :lol:
 
Sarni said:
So you're basically trying to convince yourself that he was offered a highly lucrative deal at Arsenal but went to Spurs, because...?
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I'm not trying to convince myself of anything.

I've merely said that the notion that Gallas was not wanted at Arsenal - or was rejected by them - is TOTAL, ABSOLUTE AND DEMONSTRABLE BOLLOCKS.

Clear enough for you?
 
GlastonSpur said:
I'm not trying to convince myself of anything.

I've merely said that the notion that Gallas was not wanted at Arsenal - or was rejected by them - is TOTAL, ABSOLUTE AND DEMONSTRABLE BOLLOCKS.

Clear enough for you?
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If he was wanted enough by the club we would of given him what he wanted. But he's not, he is behind Vermaelen and a CB who has played 1 game of PL in his life.... judged by Wenger. If you honestly think he was offered more money to stay at Arsenal and left then you are deluded.
 
GlastonSpur said:
I'm not trying to convince myself of anything.

I've merely said that the notion that Gallas was not wanted at Arsenal - or was rejected by them - is TOTAL, ABSOLUTE AND DEMONSTRABLE BOLLOCKS.

Clear enough for you?
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You've gone a bit giddy after that 'win' in Berne by the looks of it. Gallas was back at Arsenal last week to try to get his offer back on the table and told where to go. Do you think he turned down £80K from us to sign for you for £50K. Delusion thy name is Glaston.
 
This thread is why you're not taken seriously around here Glaston.
 
Sarni said:
So you're basically trying to convince yourself that he was offered a highly lucrative deal at Arsenal but went to Spurs, because...?
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It's not a question of trying to convince myself that "he was offered a highly lucrative deal at Arsenal", because the facts show that he was offered such a deal ... unless you regard 80k per week as peanuts.

Nor is it a question of trying to convince myself that he's signed for Spurs - he has signed for Spurs.

As to why he's signed for Spurs, I've don't know because he hasn't spoken about it so far. I can only guess at mixture of possible reasons: he's pissed off with Arsenal (that's a given), he wants to stay in London and in the Prem, Spurs potentially offer the chance of continuing to play in the CL, Spurs have shown they want him by offering to make him equal highest paid at the club (even if that's less than what Arsenal offered), he thinks Spurs are a club that are on the up and have many talented players ... take your pick from all or some of the above.
 
peterstorey said:
... Do you think he turned down £80K from us to sign for you for £50K. Delusion thy name is Glaston.
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I haven't said he turned down Arsenal in order to sign for Spurs. Trying to put your words in another's mouth is always a sign of a weak argument.

I have said - you said yourself - that he turned down 80k per week from Arsenal. And I have said that he's being paid far less than 80k per week at Spurs. Both are true statements.

As to why he's signed for Spurs, I've given my guesses in the post above.
 
You're ignoring the fact that our offer (now retracted) was in May - it's no longer on the table which is why he signed for you after hawking himself around Europe.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
This thread is why you're not taken seriously around here Glaston.
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The squirming denials of the facts - and the wriggling attempts to re-write history - all show in this thread why many of the Arsenal fans on here can't handle the truth without ridiculous attempts to gloss it all over.

Just as there's always some convenient excuse as to why the apparently fabulous Arsenal 'kids' haven't delivered a trophy of any kind for the last 5 years ('kids"? - some of them must be knocking on a bit after 5 years), just as there's the ongoing predictions from peterstorey about Arsenal winning the league or "top-4-ifying" this club or that club .....

If you and the rest of your fellow Gooners wish to be taken more seriously, then you might try climbing down just a tad from your collective high-horses and realise that Arsenal are no longer the 'invincibles', but are instead just one of 6 or 7 clubs hoping to finish in the top 4.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The squirming denials of the facts - and the wriggling attempts to re-write history - all show in this thread why many of the Arsenal fans on here can't handle the truth without ridiculous attempts to gloss it all over.

Just as there's always some convenient excuse as to why the apparently fabulous Arsenal 'kids' haven't delivered a trophy of any kind for the last 5 years ('kids"? - some of them must be knocking on a bit after 5 years), just as there's the ongoing predictions from peterstorey about Arsenal winning the league or "top-4-ifying" this club or that club .....

If you and the rest of your fellow Gooners wish to be taken more seriously, then you might try climbing down just a tad from your collective high-horses and realise that Arsenal are no longer the 'invincibles', but are instead just one of 6 or 7 clubs hoping to finish in the top 4.
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I love how you talk about re-writing history as if it was some shocking day for Arsenal e.g Sol from Spurs to Arsenal. When in fact its not, its some over the hill CB gone to make some other team a misery.
 
peterstorey said:
You're ignoring the fact that our offer (now retracted) was in May - it's no longer on the table which is why he signed for you after hawking himself around Europe.
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Makes no difference to the fact that Arsenal wanted him to stay - despite all the bollocks to the contrary being spouted in this thread.

Besides, it's easy to retract an offer after it's already been rejected ... and after discussions for replacement CBs have perforce already begun.
 
Christofaux said:
I love how you talk about re-writing history as if it was some shocking day for Arsenal e.g Sol from Spurs to Arsenal. When in fact its not, its some over the hill CB gone to make some other team a misery.
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I'm talking about the history of Gallas and contract offers at Arsenal - I've not mentioned Sol Campbell.

I love how - now that he turned down Arsenal's offer and now that he's signed for Spurs - Gallas has suddenly become just "some over the hill CB".
 
peterstorey said:
... Arsenal reject.
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:lol: This is priceless :lol:

Arsenal offer 80k per week to players they don't want. It must be soooo nice wage-wise for the players that they do actually want at that club. :lol:
 
GlastonSpur said:
I'm talking about the history of Gallas and contract offers at Arsenal - I've not mentioned Sol Campbell.

I love how - now that he turned down Arsenal's offer and now that he's signed for Spurs - Gallas has suddenly become just "some over the hill CB".
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Well your board obviously have the same concerns going by the stipulations in his contract. Whilst, at age 33, common sense tells you that this is probably his last season in the premiership.
 
GlastonSpur said:
:lol: This is priceless :lol:

Arsenal offer 80k per week to players they don't want. It must be soooo nice wage-wise for the players that they do actually want at that club. :lol:
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You seem to have a problem with the concept of time and it moving on (not surprising since it's 50 years since you won the league).
 
GlastonSpur said:
It's not a question of trying to convince myself that "he was offered a highly lucrative deal at Arsenal", because the facts show that he was offered such a deal ... unless you regard 80k per week as peanuts.

Nor is it a question of trying to convince myself that he's signed for Spurs - he has signed for Spurs.

As to why he's signed for Spurs, I've don't know because he hasn't spoken about it so far. I can only guess at mixture of possible reasons: he's pissed off with Arsenal (that's a given), he wants to stay in London and in the Prem, Spurs potentially offer the chance of continuing to play in the CL, Spurs have shown they want him by offering to make him equal highest paid at the club (even if that's less than what Arsenal offered), he thinks Spurs are a club that are on the up and have many talented players ... take your pick from all or some of the above.
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He's obviously not chosen Tottenham for sporting reasons because it's a big step down, he went there before he was either treated badly at Arsenal, not offered enough money or went nuts.
 
peterstorey said:
He's fecked otherwise Wenger would have kept him.
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Pains me to side with GS but if he's "fecked" why did Wenger offer him a contract at all? Granted, he didn't give him any second chances after turning down the initial offer but Wenger wouldn't have made any offer at all if he was "fecked".

I think Wenger has very few flaws as a manager but I've always thought his Achilles heel was the indecent haste with which he discarded players once they pass the big Three Oh. If Fergie was anything like as quick to cut his losses on "aged" players we'd have won feck all these last few years.
 
I think he's just a bit of a narky fecker. He's still a top player. Maybe he has learnt that none of the really big clubs wanted him any more and that might actually do him some good.

That said, I wouldn't be that shocked if Spurs were in the same sort of area of the table as Arsenal at the end of the season. I wouldn't even be hugely shocked if they were above.
 
Gallas was back last week if he wanted him, he's got better options now. Wenger got £30M for Henry and Vieira, which was necessary to balance the books at the time. No one's gone on to better things since they've left.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
That's racist! :wenger:

But seriously, name one experienced international (for a good country) that we could've signed for £6m within the Premiership? Especially this close to the close of the window. FFS Bolton valued Cahill at £30m!
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This close to the window isn't an excuse. He's had all summer. How much did Titus Bramble go for? How about Dunne last season?
 
peterstorey said:
Gallas was back last week if he wanted him, he's got better options now. Wenger got £30M for Henry and Vieira, which was necessary to balance the books at the time. No one's gone on to better things since they've left.
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I don't think Scholes, Giggs or Neville would have gone on to better things if we'd cut them lose a few years back. That's not the point.

I do think they've all played a really important part in our recent success, partly by their contributions on the pitch, partly by the examples set on the training ground but mainly because if you want to win the league you should ideally have at least a few players in the squad who can remember what it takes. I also think that the likes of Silva, Campbell and Pires could all have been useful at Arsenal in this regard these last few years.

I could be imagining this but does the departure of Gallas means there's not a single player in the Arsenal squad who's ever won a major trophy in club football? That's not ideal.
 
Made sense for Gallas to move on. He was a disruptive twat at Arsenal. Doesn't mean he will be at Spurs necessarily and he's a class player.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I don't think Scholes, Giggs or Neville would have gone on to better things if we'd cut them lose a few years back. That's not the point.
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We needed the money to start rebuilding, we kept Bergkamp until he was 37.
 
Gallas will join that fine tradition of Spurs CBs by spending more time on the treatment table than on the pitch (Dawson seems to be the exception but he'd be doing them a favour if he threw himself down a flight of stairs).
 
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