Spurs XI: name 4 better Prem players in each position?

[JPRouve]

Martial, Walker & Cazorla

In the last 18 months, who do you chose?

 

[BlueCelery]

In the last 18 months, who do you chose?

Last 18 months seems like an arbitrary time frame but

De Gea
Sagna Alderweireld Koscileny Monreal
Toure Kante
Sanchez Ozil Hazard
Aguero​

 

[Clas Sified]

Assuming all are in top form
Lloris (GK): De Gea, Courtois, Cech
Walker (RB): Bellerin (however, debatable)
Rose (LB): Shaw, Azpilicueta
Alderweireld & Vertonghen (CB partnership):
Dier & Dembele (CM pairing):
Alli (central AM): Ozil, De Bruyne
Lamela (right AM):
Eriksen (left AM): Hazard
Kane (striker): Ibrahimovic (provided he adapts well), Aguero.

 

[JPRouve]

Last 18 months is an arbitrary time frame but

De Gea
Sagna Alderweireld Koscileny Monreal
Toure Kante
Sanchez Ozil Hazard
Aguero​

Hazard, Touré and Sagna in the last 18 months? Really?

Edit: I probably should have put Mahrez on the right and De Bruyne of the left but Sanchez and Hazard weren't good last season.

 

[BlueCelery]

Hazard, Touré and Sagna in the last 18 months? Really?

Edit: I probably should have put Mahrez on the right and De Bruyne of the left but Sanchez and Hazard weren't good last season.

Look I don't care because most of this is subjective anyway but Martial is nowhere near one of the best wingers in the League. Great prospect but he isn't ft to lace the boots of the likes of Hazard, Sanchez, Mahrez etc

 

[7even]

My best eleven PL players season 2015/16

De Gea

Bellerin Smalling Kosceilny Rose
Kanté Cazorla
Mahrez Del Alli KDB
Augero

My favorite team season 2016/17

De Gea
Bellerin Bailly Kosceilny Shaw
Gündogan Kanté Pogba
Mahrez Zlatan KDB

 

[gza the genius]

Can you even imagine if the situations were reversed and either of us made a similar claim? Or one similar to saying Lingard is better than Lamela? Would be about 1000 people in here calling us delusional.

To be fair, I only said I'd rather have Lingard, which I stand by. Lamela doesn't impress me at all (though I may be be being harsh on him based on his first season at Spurs), I genuinely wouldn't swap the two given the opportunity. I like Lingard a lot though so I know this is a biased view.

 

[JPRouve]

Look I don't care because most of this is subjective anyway but Martial is nowhere near one of the best wingers in the League. Great prospect but he isn't ft to lace the boots of the likes of Hazard, Sanchez, Mahrez etc

You are missing the point, it's a form lineup hence "in the last 18 months". You are talking about who is best in theory.

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

Which is why, in case you missed it, I've tentatively predicted Arsenal to win the league this season

That doesn't show objectivity, it just shows you don't know football very well. In all seriousness though its obvious why you said that because your biggest argument for why Spurs will get top 4 this year is your "settled squad" and since you are relying on that argument to prop up Spurs you have to give Arsenal a nod. Unfortunately for us the negatives we have trump your "settled squad" by quite a margin so its really a poor prediction based on not knowing much about whats going on at Arsenal.

Sadly for you, you're the type of poster who adds little or nothing to threads.

If you meant this thread in good faith you and your partner Delle wouldn't be filling the thread with you two endlessly arguing with everyone who doesn't rate your Spurs players as highly as you two do.

 

[KM]

That doesn't show objectivity, it just shows you don't know football very well. In all seriousness though its obvious why you said that because your biggest argument for why Spurs will get top 4 this year is your "settled squad" and since you are relying on that argument to prop up Spurs you have to give Arsenal a nod. Unfortunately for us the negatives we have trump your "settled squad" by quite a margin so its really a poor prediction based on not knowing much about whats going on at Arsenal.



If you meant this thread in good faith you and your partner Delle wouldn't be filling half the thread with you two endlessly arguing with everyone who doesn't rate your Spurs players as highly as you two do.

Well said.

 

[bucky]

As I have stated numerous times...people have selected Pogba because he is arguably a world class midfielder - up there with the likes of Kroos, Modric, Busquets, Vidal etc. I still don't agree with putting him in an 11 because he hasn't even played in the Premier League, but it's certainly more justifiable than putting Xhaka in there, who most people hadn't even heard of before last season. At the end of this you seem to actually put Xhaka up there as a footballer on par with Pogba, seriously? It's like me comparing Alli to Pogba.

No chance Xhaka is 'better in the air' than Dier or Matic. No chance. You're commenting on players performances from 18 months back, but another 6 months is too much for you? I'm basing it on players top level, if we're doing this purely on form it'd be a very different starting 11. Matic has proven himself in his first season at Chelsea as a brilliant DM, even the likes of Hazard looked dreadful last season. Xhaka has never proven himself in the Premier League, not once. He's also incredibly rash with an awful red card record, so let's see how he does in a physical Prem, when he's constantly being niggled at and wound up.

Yes, there is though. Because he's never even done it in the Prem. Honestly, only an Arsenal fan would put Xhaka in a Premier League XI, it's ridiculous. The guy wasn't even shortlisted for the Bundesliga Team of the Season for god sake. Dahoud, Vidal, Gundogan and Baumgartlinger were all ahead of him. Utterly preposterous to immediately stick him in a best 11 for the Premier League.

As I've already said, there's exceptions for players who are clearly world class or have proven themselves to be quality at any level (Champions League proven players)

Anybody else, you can't stick them immediately in to a Premier League 11. It's folly. It's not even about Dier/Dembele, there's plenty of midfielders ahead of Xhaka until he shows he can do it in the Premier League. He wasn't even shortlisted as one of the best midfielders in the Bundesliga last season, putting him automatically in to a Premier League 11 is madness.

Since you continue to use this argument.

Baumgartlinger and Dahoud weren't better than him. Weigl wasn't nominated either, which is absurd. The voting you base this argument on was one for the fans. It's not a measuring stick.

 

[NoPace]

Lloris (GK): De Gea
Walker (RB): Bellerin, Coleman, (Holy shit the Prem needs RBs)
Rose (LB): Shaw, Azpilicueta, Monreal,
Alderweireld & Vertonghen (CB partnership): My guess is the talent in Manchester means one team there will find a better partnership this year, though.
Dier & Dembele (CM pairing): Pogba-Schneiderlin, Xhaka-Cazorla/Ramsey, Fernandinho-Gundogan, Kante-Matic
Alli (central AM): Ozil, De Bruyne, Silva,
Lamela (right AM): Mahrez, Sane, Mkhitaryan
Eriksen (left AM): Martial, Sanchez, Hazard,
Kane (striker): Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Sturridge/Costa (let's say one is healthy)

 

[GlastonSpur]

That doesn't show objectivity, it just shows you don't know football very well. In all seriousness though its obvious why you said that because your biggest argument for why Spurs will get top 4 this year is your "settled squad" and since you are relying on that argument to prop up Spurs you have to give Arsenal a nod. Unfortunately for us the negatives we have trump your "settled squad" by quite a margin so its really a poor prediction based on not knowing much about whats going on at Arsenal.

If you meant this thread in good faith you and your partner Delle wouldn't be filling the thread with you two endlessly arguing with everyone who doesn't rate your Spurs players as highly as you two do.

Spurs having a settled squad is not my "biggest argument" as to why I think Spurs will finish in the top 4. It's one reason amongst several. A bigger reason is that young players tend to improve with experience - and since the Spurs squad has a very young average age (and containing no players past their best) it follows that the overall performance of the squad will likely improve. It's also the case that younger players in this category of likely-to-improve include at least 5 of our first XI: Alli, Dier, Lamela, Eriksen and Kane.

Nor have I previously tipped Arsenal for the title based just on their settled squad. It's also because they came 2nd last time, and this time will likely not face another Leicester miracle.

So at least I give reasons for my views, whereas you've merely claimed that Alli's "purple patch" will disappear without providing any evidence or reasons, and have similarly dismissed Rose being voted as the Prem's best LB, again without explaining why the views of professional footballers are so unimportant ... unimportant, I can only presume, compared your own (unsubstantiated) views.