VorZakone
What would Kenny G do?
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Alli & Son were bought 3 years ago.
To think Alli, Kane, Eriksen and Son cost them approx 50m...
You aren't but there are those fickle few on social media who have lauded it when five months ago Levy was criticised not giving the funds to strengthen and will criticise him again six months from now if Spurs miss out/Pochettino leaves.I'm not celebrating it, I'm just pointing out that if you already have a talented squad, one where every player is fully integrated into the manager's style of play and knows their role inside-out, the need for new players is much less than otherwise. And having a conveyor belt of good academy players makes the need for new players even less pressing.
I said this both in the summer and before that.
We tried for a couple of players, didn't get them for whatever reasons, but it hasn't been the big setback that some tried to paint it as.
So we're reduced to hoping Spurs win the title.
I have no idea of they can actually do it, but their history of underperforming in crunch games must be something they overcome - they need to pick up points against the other top four sides. The lack of squad depth as compared to Liverpool and City must also be a concern, they need reinforcements in January.
The fact that they are in the discussion despite being heavily out spent by all their competition is remarkable and lends credit to Poch's abilities.
You aren't but there are those fickle few on social media who have lauded it when five months ago Levy was criticised not giving the funds to strengthen and will criticise him again six months from now if Spurs miss out/Pochettino leaves.
It's not like Liverpool have a fantastic recent history in crunch games (how many finals has Klopp lost now?) or of being great in title races, so quite honestly I think people need to drop the preconceived notions about clubs. If you have a great team and manager you have a shot, I would look very little in to the whole 'winning mentality' business.
I think Liverpool just have a better team than us, not by a great deal but they do have the edge. City too if they get it together again. We will probably get called bottlers if we finish 2nd though, regardless of how good the team finishing first are.
I agree this modern attitude of you either win something or you've "bottled it" is a ridiculous notion.
We're pretty good playing other teams in the Top 6 to be fair. I agree this modern attitude of you either win something or you've "bottled it" is a ridiculous notion. There's 3 very good teams vying for the title obviously only one can come out on top.
Liverpool and Spurs fans agreeing on this subject is absolutely shocking.
So we're reduced to hoping Spurs win the title.
I have no idea of they can actually do it, but their history of underperforming in crunch games must be something they overcome - they need to pick up points against the other top four sides. The lack of squad depth as compared to Liverpool and City must also be a concern, they need reinforcements in January.
The fact that they are in the discussion despite being heavily out spent by all their competition is remarkable and lends credit to Poch's abilities.
It's amazing that Random is mocking the manager that he is coveting to take over at Utd in the summer.
Different thread different rules.
Sometimes teams are just better than us, Leicester and Chelsea were the years they won the league. It's not a bottle if you were never in a commanding position.
We've bottled a couple of cup games under Poch, most notably the Juventus tie last season, but overall have shown fantastic spirit under his management. It's just whenever we happen to lose a game (like any team) the boring 'oh of course it's Spurs!' lines come out.
People tend to ignore the games where we hold on to leads, or fight our way back in to games, or the times we show remarkable consistency in the league, because it doesn't suit the 'weak mentality' agenda.
Funny how City and Chelsea both became clubs with winning mentalities when better players started joining them.
Klopp and Liverpool are known bottlers, as are Spurs to a lesser extent.
Klopp has managed to win 1 in 7 major cup finals during his not-so-illustrious career. It's touching on 30 years since the dippers last won a league title, during that period they have had multiple opportunities to alter that reality, but ultimately 'shit the bed', as it were, when it was time to step up. Losing a 3-0 lead to the mighty Palace and title with it, plus Stevie Me's infamous slip a couple of years later are just two examples of said bed shitting.
Poch and Spurs have not fared a great deal better. For all the the hustle and bustle surrounding Spurs under Poch, they haven't even reached a cup final under his guidance, let alone win a trophy outright. They arguably bottled the title and allowed Leicester to win the league, too Arguably.
Winning begets winning. Sir Alex said so.
Not so illustrious? He got to CL finals with Dortmund and Liverpool, and won Dortmund the league. He's made two teams in a row compete with the best sides in Europe.
In how many of those finals was Klopp's team a favourite? Certainly not vs Bayern or Madrid. Sometimes it's down to more than just bottling. Liverpool have only had a few genuine challenges in that time, and didn't really lose the title during Crystanbul .. it was vs Chelsea they fecked it.
There's definite examples of teams shitting the bed, but it's far too often the go to response when certain sides lose, it's just laziness imo. We can lose any game by any scoreline and instantly it's because we have a poor mentality, are bottlers, blah blah ... rather than just other teams being better on the day/in the season.
We've reached one cup final under Poch btw. We've never bottled a title under him because at no point have we had a comfortable lead and then lost it, you can't bottle something when another team is just better from the start. Our cup record is patchy with him and I think that is something as a manager he has to work on tactically, rather than a mentality issue.
Overall, I think our mentality under Poch has been hugely impressive. We've shown fantastic spirit and consistency at times, and rarely do I feel like we shrink away from a challenge.
Winning begets winning, but that doesn't mean anybody who doesn't win is automatically a bottler.
Klopp and Liverpool are known bottlers, as are Spurs to a lesser extent.
Klopp has managed to win 1 in 7 major cup finals during his not-so-illustrious career. It's touching on 30 years since the dippers last won a league title, during that period they have had multiple opportunities to alter that reality, but ultimately 'shit the bed', as it were, when it was time to step up. Losing a 3-0 lead to the mighty Palace and the title with it, plus Stevie Me's infamous slip a couple of years later are just two examples of said bed shitting.
Poch and Spurs have not fared a great deal better. For all the the hustle and bustle surrounding Spurs under Poch, they haven't even reached a cup final under his guidance, let alone win a trophy outright. They arguably bottled the title and allowed Leicester to win the league, too. Arguably.
Winning begets winning. Sir Alex said so.
That was debunked funnily enough the other day
You can't bottle something if you were never in front.
Glad to hear it, you'll have no trouble dispatching Liverpool and their pitiful challenge to your title this year.
Seriously, Levy needs to give Woodward a tinkle regarding the possible loans of Martial and Pogba for the remainder of the season. Perhaps a deal can be negotiated that benefits both parties; we loan you the aforementioned superheroes to assist you in your noble pursuit of the title, in exchange Levy agrees to release Poch, free of charge, at the end of the season, allowing him to join United.
Everyone is a winner.
Except for Liverpool. Which is absolutely fine because they are used to losing.
Glad to hear it, you'll have no trouble dispatching Liverpool and their pitiful challenge to your title this year.
Seriously, Levy needs to give Woodward a tinkle regarding the possible loans of Martial and Pogba for the remainder of the season. Perhaps a deal can be negotiated that benefits both parties; we loan you the aforementioned superheroes to assist you in your noble pursuit of the title, in exchange Levy agrees to release Poch, free of charge, at the end of the season, allowing him to join United.
Everyone is a winner.
Except for Liverpool. Which is absolutely fine because they are used to losing.
Who would you suggest we drop to accommodate them?
Time for Levy to wade into the xfer market with this warchest of cash Glaston thinks Spurs have hoarded away.
There is no warchest. but even if we don't have one we should get one! Daniel Levy (and Joe Lewis) need to find money. Simple as.
Ain't no thing: Issue 25-30% new shares to Xi Jinping or one of his friends. Shouldn't be too difficult.
In my book we must be one of the most interesting teams in all of sports to invest in, so those 2 just need to understand that you can't price us quite as high as United and the money will come.
If we lose Poch because he isn't properly backed I will first vommit, then remember how much I detest us being financed by the Rothschild's before handing in my OneHotspur membership card.
Then I will set aside a month of my life to make #LevyOut stencils (with some obscene imagery) to be distributed via Spurs fan forums.. (I'll even invest in a few dozen cans to pass along with the stencils)
Once that is done I will give up my 36 year long love affair with Spurs.
If Poch leaves because he wants to manage a bigger club saying that has always been a dream or whatever, fine. So be it.
But if he leaves because of Levy --> Nah... Then he ain't getting a single pound from me ever again.
I don't think I am the only Spurs feeling that way. Hopefully Levy sees that keeping Poch is key to his plan of seliing Spurs for more money than any football club has ever been sold for and will do the right thing.
Not sure though.
Time for Levy to wade into the xfer market with this warchest of cash Glaston thinks Spurs have hoarded away.
after that trashing of everton he didn't seem his usually upbeat self. obviously he wants to win the league. man united hard to turn down.
believe me he wants transfer funds so he can rotate, etc. at Uinited transfer funds not an issue. if he goes to united the first player he will buy... harry kane.
Erm......What the hell?
Yes, after taking their manager against their will, Levy and Woody will sit down to close the sale of their best player.after that trashing of everton he didn't seem his usually upbeat self. obviously he wants to win the league. man united hard to turn down.
believe me he wants transfer funds so he can rotate, etc. at Uinited transfer funds not an issue. if he goes to united the first player he will buy... harry kane.
Yes, after taking their manager against their will, Levy and Woody will sit down to close the sale of their best player.
Yeah not realistic at all. If Kane does agitate to move in a couple years, 27, prime time of his career. Would there be a club in Europe not interested?
No, but wherever Pochettino goes it wouldn't be that surprising if he takes 1-2 of his former players.Have a word, it’s not realistic in the slightest.