Southport knife attack - 3 children dead & others injured | killer gets 52 years +

Red in STL said:
So his brief is arguing he doesn't have a mental problem to excuse his actions, I'd have thought he would have been arguing the opposite.

I'm just waiting for violent video games, TV and movies to be brought up by someone as an explanation/excuse and how they must all be banned
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Barristers in England primarily owe a duty to the court, above the client. They aren't allowed to make specious arguments.
 
Frosty said:
Barristers in England primarily owe a duty to the court, above the client. They aren't allowed to make specious arguments.
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As do lawyers pretty much everywhere TBH, the rational often used is that someone has to be mentally ill to commit such acts, not really true but not really a specious argument either - in the US it's used every time there's a mass shooting, given the numbrs of such events there must be a lot of mentally ill people here, and there's evidence to support that, they just elected Trump again!
 
pocco said:
I thought it turned out that he was, after all, following some Al Qaeda texts online? May have been radicalised or he’s took himself down that path through a combination of his own beliefs and what he was reading?
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As far as we currently know, he was interested in mass killings and killers.

He did get charged with offences under the terrorism act. Police found an Al Qaeda training manual and the ingredients for making ricin when they searched his house.

As far as they can tell he was more interested in the methods than the authors or the ideology. He had a lot of stuff on US school shootings and similar events.

One of the things mentioned in the court case was that he tried to go to his old school the week before. His father sent the taxi away that day.
 
2mufc0 said:
Whilst I have little sympathy for the scumbag, don't think we should be promoting racists at the same time.
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State of things on X at the mo, i'd put money on this being some AI voice shite made exactly for that purpose.
 
Sarah - who is now 14 and whose identity is protected by a court order - was seriously wounded but managed to lead several other children, including her younger sister, to safety.

Sitting alongside her parents, she told us how another "incredible" girl, who appeared to be only about 10 years old, was keeping other children calm, telling them: "Don't worry, your parents are going to be here, everything's going to be OK."
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgp4l170kpo

Their parents must be incredibly proud of them despite how terrifying this was.

Kudos to Leanne Lucas, the Yoga teacher too. All should be honoured for their actions.
 
Everytime I read this story I feel close to tears. Beyond heart breaking.

pauldyson1uk said:
so for the next 52 years the tax payers have to feed and cloth that fecking evil piece of shit, 52 years making sure he is fed and kept warm and heathy!!!
feck that he should be put to death and done now before he costs us any more money, he deserves NOTHING , he should forfeit his right to live.
This boils my piss
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Agreed. Public Services are a shambles and the country doesn't have a pot to piss in. Why waste money on scum like this.
 
Bwuk said:
Everytime I read this story I feel close to tears. Beyond heart breaking.



Agreed. Public Services are a shambles and the country doesn't have a pot to piss in. Why waste money on scum like this.
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Personally I think he should be subjected to increasingly cruel punishments in a series of live broadcasts. The monetization potential is through the roof. Pay pay view, sell "ring side" seats, charge 50p to text to vote on what you want his next punishment to be, merchandise. Get the cost back and more.

I'm only half joking. Genuinely curious if this is the sort of thing that society will one day end up doing (for better or worse).
 
I see this is bringing the absolute worst out in people then. Don't let monsters like this rob the last of our humanity.
 
Trequarista10 said:
Personally I think he should be subjected to increasingly cruel punishments in a series of live broadcasts. The monetization potential is through the roof. Pay pay view, sell "ring side" seats, charge 50p to text to vote on what you want his next punishment to be, merchandise. Get the cost back and more.

I'm only half joking. Genuinely curious if this is the sort of thing that society will one day end up doing (for better or worse).
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It worked out ok in running man.
 
Trequarista10 said:
Personally I think he should be subjected to increasingly cruel punishments in a series of live broadcasts. The monetization potential is through the roof. Pay pay view, sell "ring side" seats, charge 50p to text to vote on what you want his next punishment to be, merchandise. Get the cost back and more.

I'm only half joking. Genuinely curious if this is the sort of thing that society will one day end up doing (for better or worse).
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The Purley King said:
It worked out ok in running man.
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I saw this again the other week. The Running Man definitely had a Verhoeven-esque feel, but dunno if @Sweet Square would agree.

 
Trequarista10 said:
Personally I think he should be subjected to increasingly cruel punishments in a series of live broadcasts. The monetization potential is through the roof. Pay pay view, sell "ring side" seats, charge 50p to text to vote on what you want his next punishment to be, merchandise. Get the cost back and more.

I'm only half joking. Genuinely curious if this is the sort of thing that society will one day end up doing (for better or worse).
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I'd happily spend money to watch justice be served.
 
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