Solskjaer's legacy and his future

The worst Manchester United manager of all time? Even Moyes never got humiliated this bad.

Will you ever be able to look at 1999 the same way knowing, the same man was responsible for the most humiliating home loss for the club in modern times?

Still a legend for me. I'll always remember him fondly for what he did for us as a player. He simply isn't a good enough manager.
 
I will mainly remember how smug the deluded Ole fans (as a manager) were when United fluked a win.
 
Still a legend for me. I'll always remember him fondly for what he did for us as a player. He simply isn't a good enough manager.
It's a bit more complex than that as he clearly doesnt want best for the club as he is staying on. If he did, he would have resigned but it is his right not to, nonetheless.
 
Worse than Moyes is what his legacy will be.

Nah - Moyes took a title winning side and oversaw a massive decline.

Assuming he's gone by tomorrow, Ole will be leaving a far better first team squad for the next manager than the one he inherited, and a team that has finished top 4 two seasons running for the first time since SAF.

It's not great, but it's better than he found. A top manager would get success from this side.

Problem is, where are the top managers? At our rivals. That's on the board.
 
Leaves us in the biggest mess since Fergie went. That's his legacy as a manager. Will take some time to forget it
 
It's a bit more complex than that as he clearly doesnt want best for the club as he is staying on. If he did, he would have resigned but it is his right not to, nonetheless.
What kind of a fecking moron walks away from a £7/8m a year job and essentially admits he's not good enough for his dream job? What a ridiculous statement.
 
Nah - Moyes took a title winning side and oversaw a massive decline.

Assuming he's gone by tomorrow, Ole will be leaving a far better first team squad for the next manager than the one he inherited, and a team that has finished top 4 two seasons running for the first time since SAF.

It's not great, but it's better than he found. A top manager would get success from this side.

Problem is, where are the top managers? At our rivals. That's on the board.

Solskjaer's taken one of the most historic clubs in European football, and completely eroded away any professional pride it had.
 
What kind of a fecking moron walks away from a £7/8m a year job and essentially admits he's not good enough for his dream job? What a ridiculous statement.
That's the thing, he's just in for his own personal interest which is fine. Even LvG handed in his resignation so stop acting like it's an anomaly. This is the same Ole who his fans talk of as he loves United more than himself. He's already made a fortune here, and just wants more.

His right, but also just a leech.
 
At this point his legacy is making us the biggest laughing stock in world football for months.
 
That's the thing, he's just in for his own personal interest which is fine. Even LvG handed in his resignation so stop acting like it's an anomaly. This is the same Ole who his fans talk of as he loves United more than himself. He's already made a fortune here, and just wants more.

His right, but also just a leech.
The bloke who was sacked so we could appoint Mourinho a day later?
 
What kind of a fecking moron walks away from a £7/8m a year job and essentially admits he's not good enough for his dream job? What a ridiculous statement.
An honest person who doesn’t value money above anything else.
 
Solskjaer's taken one of the most historic clubs in European football, and completely eroded away any professional pride it had.

That's a bit OTT.

The decline has been going on long before Ole took over, and he's done more in his managing of the club to prevent this than propel it.

But he's now undoing his good work and needs to go. That's obvious for all to see.
 
If Ole loves the club as much as the fans still love him then he really should fall on his sword tonight and give United time to re group before it is too late. We could still rescue something from this season with a new, strong direction but keep sailing as we are and we will be stuck on a lee shore with no way out before Christmas.
 
Brutal watching that clip of him in front of the away end. He’s clearly devastated. It’s possible for him to completely love the club and just not be good enough. I’m genuinely sorry it’s got to this point, the board should have acted after City, if not Liverpool.
 
“Legend” waiting for the inevitable sack and paycheck rather than walking with some sort of dignity :lol: think we can do better than that
 
No...Ole is bad but Moyes was extremely bad. If Ole had left at end of last season we would have said he moved us in right direction.
Yes we would have said that. But he didn't and now turned us into worst team since SAF left.
 
No...Ole is bad but Moyes was extremely bad. If Ole had left at end of last season we would have said he moved us in right direction.

Moyes was gone after 8 months, didn't spend much and the squad was basically the same as before he came.

People really don't get the damage Ole is doing currently to the club.
 
It's a bit more complex than that as he clearly doesnt want best for the club as he is staying on. If he did, he would have resigned but it is his right not to, nonetheless.

I still think he wants what is best. He obviously thinks he can turn it around. Not many agree that he can but he must or he would have been gone.
 
You guys do know the club don’t have to accept his resignation, this is on your board not the manager IMO. Bruno’s reaction at the end of the game says it all, he was telling the fans it’s in the players not the manager.
 
I still think he wants what is best. He obviously thinks he can turn it around. Not many agree that he can but he must or he would have been gone.
Or he is in for the money. Even if he turns it around, it will never ever be good enough.
 
He can choose himself. Legacy or money. No way this fecking useless board sacks him. Its a waiting game for them. They dont want to pay out.
 
The three year rebuild resulted in wins against Leeds Newcastle and Tottenham, now it starts again

You are writing off 2nd place last year and a pen shoot out cup loss. But yes it is clearly time to go now
 
The three year rebuild resulted in wins against Leeds Newcastle and Tottenham, now it starts again

i think with another manager, this rebuild would actually win us the league. He’s probably taken us as far as he can. Some good signings, stabilised the dressing room after mourinho and delivered relatively good results (not what we want but relatively ok).

if he leaves now, his legacy as a manager would be the one who led the rebuild. If he stays, I think he’ll dismantle everything he’s done as now, more than ever, he is expected to start winning trophies.

as a player, he’ll always be the baby-faced-assasin who won us a certain game in 1999. He’ll always be a united great.
 
this should have ended at the EL Final, its on the boards ineptitude after this point.
He did a good job, then it became apparant he couldnt take us any further, any other big club would have taken the summer and then brought in a new coaching setup for the start of this season.
 
He shouldn't have been given a full time contract in the first place really. He was brought in as a caretaker, and a great run of results and despite the fact there was zero competition for his signature, we gave him a contract half way through the remainder of the season. If we'd held off til the summer there's no chance people would have wanted him given the job full time. If he'd just come in as caretaker, steadied the ship, raised the team spirit, and got the 6th place finish that he did, we'd have all been thankful to him, wouldn't have been the best run a caretaker manager had but he'd have prevented disaster, and let a new manager come in in the summer and have a stabilised squad to work with rather than the disarray after mourinho.

But as it is he's spent a fortune and achieved very little
 
His legacy is his playing career.
He hasnt got a legacy at Utd as a manager. Hes incompetent. He cant improve players, all he does is spend a fortune on players, a chequebook manager. He has no tactical plan, no ingame changes for the better. He has a backroom staff he thinks is fantastic, but they are as bad as him.
 
His managerial stint is ending so poorly here that it'll undoubtedly affect his overall legacy at the club. He could have left with dignity much earlier or the board could have made the inevitable decision much earlier, yet it was prolonged for zero reason (still hasn't happened yet but its inevitable). Also Moyes is 100% a better, more proven manager than him. The rock bottom we have hit now is the worst it has been since Fergie retired.
 
I still think he wants what is best. He obviously thinks he can turn it around. Not many agree that he can but he must or he would have been gone.
He would of resigned if he wants whats best. Either Greedy or deluded
The whole situation from board to the manager is that they are both out of its depth.
They could have eased Ole into a other position at the club but with multi millions of outstanding contract is the big stumbling block.
Someone who wants the best for the club would have walked as he has never shown any incline of being able to buy/build a team, run a biggish club or winning a trophy at any other previous clubs.
 
He will go down as the worst manager in most of our living memories.

If he holds on for a messy sacking and a big payout it will taint his status as a playing legend too. Do the honourable thing and resign.
 
His legacy will remain largely in tact (give or take some banter) for people around my age and older who remember the peak of his playing career well but it’ll be highly damaged for younger fans who didn’t… and that’s…. Completely normal.

If Brian Kidd had taken over from Fergie in the late 90s, won nothing in 3 years and overseen a series of humiliating defeats to our biggest rivals Id have been a bit miffed and frustrated if we’d kept him on well beyond his usefulness and was continuously being told to be respectful and supportive by older fans more emotionally attached to him…. Who themselves wouldve likely felt the same if Billy Meredith had taken over from Busby (though they wouldve had a slightly more legitimate grievance, considering he was dead)

In short, nostalgia is always bad. I keep trying to tell people this.
 
He's left us in a worse state than he found us. Better squad but spent nearly £500m. Progress.
 
Will go down as one of the worst managers we've ever had who brought together a brilliant squad and wasted them horrifically. The way he's handled so many members of the squad is awful too. Lying to them and refusing to use them, persisting with his underperforming favourites. Even if we all know he is shite, at least try changing things rather than persisting every week with the same garbage?