Sofyan Amrabat | signs for United on loan
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We tried for Bellingham and if you want to pine over that just go and do it somewhere else
Fiorentina is a good club. The likes of United, city, Madrid, etc can only buy so many players
he hasn’t played for a big club therefore he must be crap is a terrible way to judge players
As I've been saying then... Though some talk west ham want McTominay. So if they bid significantly for him (30m+ I'd imagine), then I'm guessing we'll then bring in amrabat. Until then, nothing
Yeah always felt it was dependent on outgoings whether that's Fred or McTominay,either way there seems little movement right now
I’d have preferred a midfield of Bellingham and Camavinga for the next ten years than this guy and Casemiro for the next two or three years? Sue me.
Yeah, they all rejected us.
Oh I have had enough of you and @Ali Dia who actually make me look positive. Look I would loved them as well but Bellingham wanted to follow Haaland path of development and Camavinga was waiting for Madrid
So he's great. He'll be just what we need. No dissenting opinions allowed.
I suggest you actually read some of my posts. I’m a happy supporter most of the time. It just pains me the way the club has been run. We’ve made poor decisions over and over. If we’d proper owners we would have a young team to rival Madrid and City by now. Now at least we have a top manager who is doing his best to play catch up but after all the very best young players of this generation have been hovered up.
and you are way more negative and constantly engaged than me.
Did I say he was crap? Seriously, it's like fecking Twitter or GB news here.
No but you insinuated that unless he has played for a big club then he’s not good enough for United. I fail to see your logic. Matt LeTissier was at Southampton his whole career but easily could have played for a big club. Alan shearer easily could have played for a big club. It means diddly squat
probably still have Ole too though
Not McTominay. It's Fred and VDB who's departures will open the door for Amrabat.
I said that I was unconvinced by him (having watched him a few times - he was never a stand out player for me), that I thought he wasn't good enough for United, that there's a reason he's played for Ajax (as a youth), Feyenoord, Club Brugge, the mighty Hellas Verona, and, the perennial outside the the top 5 of the mediocre Serie A (of Lukaku, Scimmacca, Darmian et el fame) finishers Fiorentina......namely, that there are a lack of bigger (note, I didn't even say big) clubs interested in him. Why might that be? Those facts and my assessment fit together quite nicely. I don't think he's the player United need. That ok?
I’m pretty sure. Neither Fred or McT can play the deeper role properly, it just isn’t their wheelhouse.
Atletico and Barcelona along with us are interested in him so you're wrong.
Says Fabrizio!
Who did Bruno Fernandes play for before he joined United? Different players develop at a different rate. He also happens to be Moroccan, which isn't exactly glamorous in pro football.
But these players didn't want to play under Ole because he hasn't ever proved himself as a manager. Now we have a manager that players want to play for, we are starting to see lots of good players wanting to join us and actually joining us.
There are literally multiple stories of Klopp wanting him but him choosing United, Barca were snooping around too. You make it sound like nobody is interested bar United
TBF to Ole, immensely flawed as he was as a manager, Haaland had no issues with playing for him (as he had before), instead, the club screwed up the deal from Molde and hen refused to pay agent fees/insert the clause when it was between us and Dortmund. Bellingham wanted promises of first team football (and, in all fairness, was also seemingly apprehensive about how well he would be developed at a club veering from mini- crisis to mini-crisis at the time) . Camavinga realistically wasn't going to go anywhere else once Madrid came in and promised him he'd play regularly from the off.
Went all out for one of his other targets... and now we are stuck with Harry Maguire.
Wasn't trying to be negative haha. Haaland we didnt sign because Raiola wanted the clause that he could leave after 3 years for 60m, Camavinga - Madrid came in, Bellingham we pulled out the stops - even wheeled out SAF, but he wanted the development at BVB
Alvarez is a different story, we could have had him easily.
I think cm is absolutely key for us. Pretty much every succesful team in history of the sport has had top quality midfield options. As the squad stands right now, a few weeks from league start is nothing to write poems about.
Casemiro and Bruno are class imo, but the other options are nothing special.
A guy like Amrabat or similar is very important to get for us.
Yes Haaland we really fecked up massively
Wasn't trying to be negative haha. Haaland we didnt sign because Raiola wanted the clause that he could leave after 3 years for 60m, Camavinga - Madrid came in, Bellingham we pulled out the stops - even wheeled out SAF, but he wanted the development at BVB
Alvarez is a different story, we could have had him easily.
Yeah Alvarez is a very frustrating one
This feels like one of those rumours like Gaitan or Otemendi where foreign press never shut up about it, but British press say nothing and it turns out our interest was minimal
Did we feck.
Molde to Dortmund include a ridiculously low release clause that was triggered after 2 seasons. I can understand why United didn’t take the deal. It was a selling clubs deal.
Most likely we’ll sign him.
I sort of agree and sort of disagree. The difference is Madrid's young talent worked out for them, while ours didn't. We had Greenwood then that happened. We bought Sancho, who was a wonderkid in the same manner Bellingham was. We spent a lot on Hannibal, who was probably top3 French talent behind Cherki. We bought Amad, who was also one of the top youth talents of his generation.
Our success rate being 0% thus far is a large reason why the gap appears so big in terms of young talents.
No we didn't, he was never going to join us.
He's a warrior but I'm not convinced he's what we need. Still at 20-25m he's a pretty good option to replace Fred.
If Haaland had joined us when leaving Molde (or Salzburg) and had the same trajectory, then it's a real possibility that he would've left us for Real or some club like that for a forced-upon release clause, considering our performances and trajectory prior to the arrival of EtH.
Yep. He'd already have been and gone by this point, but some don't like to hear that.
You might be right but will never know anyway
Think the transfer team need to look at the more important priority and that's a wide forward. If United have a quality wide forward on the right the dynamic of the attacking threat changes considerably. If you've got Rashford on the left, Hojlund through the middle and an imposing player on the right it offsets the pressure for whoever the new striker is to continually deliver.
This undeniably was the bedrock of Arsenals success last season there was threat from both attacking sides. When both wide players contribute to double digits in goals it helps everything else the midfield can move forward (wide players stretch the oppo defence), the team can push further up and counter press more efficiently.
Amrabat in a team that is struggling for goals with financial constraints is no good. It doesn't mean the player is bad it's a reflection of what the bigger priority is. United could have signed De Jong and Caicedo and the narrative of this team will be the same it lacks threat because of passive wide players.
This undeniably was the bedrock of Arsenals success last season there was threat from both attacking sides. When both wide players contribute to double digits in goals it helps everything else the midfield can move forward (wide players stretch the oppo defence), the team can push further up and counter press more efficiently.
Amrabat in a team that is struggling for goals with financial constraints is no good. It doesn't mean the player is bad it's a reflection of what the bigger priority is. United could have signed De Jong and Caicedo and the narrative of this team will be the same it lacks threat because of passive wide players.
Who is that wide forward we need then,my gut feeling is you are talking about Kolo-Muani
He isn’t coming here to be an starter, the starter is Casemiro. He is coming here to be deputy DM, and is clearly an upgrade on McTominay at that.
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