Another example as to why I find it baffling that anyone see's him as a squad option. Never suited to the league
Sofyan Amrabat | 2023/24 Performances
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So who should we take seriously bro? You maybe? After that horrific performance today? Oh sorry I forgot he played great in the World Cup.
Definitly not you that’s for sure. Glad to see piping up after he had a bad game but were nowhere to reply when the comment was made.
That was horrific, forget what I said. He can‘t handle the pressure in PL.
Yep even more delusional. Just WUMing now.
Weird for Ten Hag to start playing him so near the end of the season.
Almost like it was a clause in the loan deal we signed up to, I just hope he's done enough so we can send him back.
Almost like it was a clause in the loan deal we signed up to, I just hope he's done enough so we can send him back.
Whats strange about it? Casemiro is starting at CB. McTominay has been poor in an actual midfield position. Eriksen has been just as bad, worse defensively and hasnt scored 7 league goals so an even worse option. Amrabat had played most of our important matches before he went to the african cup of nations, he came back and took a while to get his chance with a start again and now he's been playing our important games again.
The problem is he's been just as poor as McTom and Eriksen just in some different ways. Neither one of them are losing the ball a bunch of times with poor decisions for simple passes, players tracking back from behind etc. They have better awareness. But they are worse at winning the ball and staying involved in the game because Amrabat will do a Matic and pull up next to the CBs if thats how deep he has to come to get on the ball.
None of those 3 are the future of our midfield unless we want to stay 8th best team in the league.
Do we reckon he starts the final? I know he had a poor game but I still think all of Ten Hag's subs were pre-planned with the City game in mind.
I take my comments after Newcastle back. That was horrendous. Worst individual performance of the season. Needs 5s more on the ball.
We got about 6m for Fred in the end.
He has the same issues Casemiro and Eriksen have in terms of not being physically up to the league (probably very slightly less due to him being a bit younger) but we definitely look more balanced on the ball with that type of player in there even if it's a struggle without it.
I still think we either need to keep one of him or Casemiro or sign two midfielders. No point letting them both go and just getting one.
I still think we either need to keep one of him or Casemiro or sign two midfielders. No point letting them both go and just getting one.
The point of letting themboth go is finding actual midfielders at this level. People act like there aren't options out there ffs
Hopefully played his last game for us now
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So glad this game happened. Listening to some parts of the fanbase talking about "decent squad options"... That was really poor. And I don't even really get it, I mean, there is no chance he could've dropped any deeper than he did today to receive balls. To get his awareness so wrong. Shocking. His statements after last match really badly timed. Feel almost bad for him.
Getting rid of both is fine as long as we don't do what we did with Fred and before then Matic.
There are options out there but it's not trusting the club to replace both of them if they do leave as well as knowing you can't do everything in one summer.
It actually gave me anxiety watching him. Like a bad dream where I end up Quantum Leaping into a professional footballer and have a panic attack about the pace of the game compared to my midweek five a sides. Poor fella. Seems like a good lad but this isn’t the league for him.
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The way he overruns the mark and bumbles into players he's attempting to tackle will never not be funny... that he's doing it in our shirt, not so much.
He's in a 0ms world operating at 200ms with serious lag on everything. If there was ever a player who could exhibit what a league too fast for them looks like, it's him.
Another terrible bit of business, even as a loan.
He's in a 0ms world operating at 200ms with serious lag on everything. If there was ever a player who could exhibit what a league too fast for them looks like, it's him.
Another terrible bit of business, even as a loan.
After today's display? I think not. Casemiro slotting back into midfield with Martinez and another (Varane?).
I admit I wanted him here and at least give him a chance... but that was a seriously disappointing display.
Again, maybe he goes back and tears it up for other clubs. But he's far worse than even Sabitzer ever was for us that. I don't think any of us will really miss him.
Again, maybe he goes back and tears it up for other clubs. But he's far worse than even Sabitzer ever was for us that. I don't think any of us will really miss him.
I think he got a fair and objective assessment when first arriving in that he came in late and hadn't had a preseason with us and no prep for the league, which was faster than the one he was leaving. He's also been given a lot of leeway for being used sparingly, but if at the end of a 38-game league campaign he still cannot cope with the pace of the league, it's clear that the player just isn't suited to playing in said league, or would need serious exceptions made for him to do so, either by others being his legs, or simply accepting that he is lagging and will make calamitous errors because of that.
The fact it is a loan is good for him. At the end, he gets to go back to Italy and look like the player he's made a name for himself being. The PL can do nothing for him but tarnish that.
The fact it is a loan is good for him. At the end, he gets to go back to Italy and look like the player he's made a name for himself being. The PL can do nothing for him but tarnish that.
Even in his better games he's been struggling bringing the ball down while stretching and getting caught out. I don't think we can really use him to hop in and out the team, he needs to be continually playing and doubt he can really overcome his lack of agility.
I'm sure he can continue to look good in international football.
I'm sure he can continue to look good in international football.
He hasnt made much of a name for himself in Italy either. He was dissappointing and worse than the world cup where he was quite average but his team did well and punched above their weight
Is his reputation based solely on international football? Surely he looks a considerable bit better in Italy than here?
Mostly an unconvincing/poor starter for around 8th-10th placed Fiorentina
Before that he was decent for Verona who finished 9th when Fiorentina finished 10th. So that would be why they wanted him.
33 league games for Verona where he was decent, then 28 starts and 3 subs but bad for Fiorentina the next season he starts 8 with 15 subs. Back in favour enough for 24 games and 5 subs the next season. Fiorentina also made the final of the europa conference league and he had a decent game in that.
And that brings him to this season.
Not just only on international football but on one tournament where most people who rated him probably saw 1-2 matches of Morocco. Not exactly the team a lot of people pick to watch every match, but they did do well considering what was expected
shocking, shocking performance. I was left wondering whether the opponents specifically targetted him to geggenpress or he was just bad.
It’s as though we don’t do any scouting at all. And of course, we all know we really didn’t. Everything at this club for so long has been built on a manager’s feeling about a player, or familiarity with a player. Nothing has been done, in a very long time (10 years plus), with any sense of critical analysis, data gathering, due diligence, or expert insight. It’s just been, as Edward Woodward once put it, fecking “Disneyland” for morons, for far too long.
Anyone who watched Amrabat regularly will tell you that he was never good enough for United, or any top team. I only saw him play a handful of times, and I was pretty skeptical; but a couple of Italian friends of mine who watched him pretty regularly, said he was rubbish. A plucky warrior of a player who tries hard but just isn’t very good. And boy were they right. Unfortunately we have highly paid recruitment specialists at the club who didn’t get that memo, and just green lit an outlay of 10m on this joker, for one season. Undoubtedly pressured through by our manager, a man who spent 85m on the Brazilian Bebe.
It seems like all the initial hype and excitement about Amrabat, on here and in the media, was built on one ten second gif of him chasing down Mbappe and tackling him at the World Cup. A gif that I am now convinced is a deep fake, because ever since he looks like he is running through treacle.
He’s been, two games aside, absolutely fecking appalling every single time he’s played for us. And not in terms of attitude or application, because I genuinely think that he tries his little heart out for every minute of every game he’s on the pitch, but in terms of the actual football bit of his job. He’s just not very good at it. He gives the ball away constantly because he can’t get the direction or weight of his passes right. He seems constantly caught out of position because the game is moving too quickly for him. And at least half the time he looks like he has no idea how he got there in the first place.
He’s the William Prunier of midfield signings. Just a lot more expensive, and because ETH barely has the leadership nouse that Fergie had in one testicle, he’s here for the whole season, rather than a handful of games. Truly one of our worst ever signings. Luckily we sold Brazilian international Fred for a whopping 8m so we could get this genius in midfield.
Anyone who watched Amrabat regularly will tell you that he was never good enough for United, or any top team. I only saw him play a handful of times, and I was pretty skeptical; but a couple of Italian friends of mine who watched him pretty regularly, said he was rubbish. A plucky warrior of a player who tries hard but just isn’t very good. And boy were they right. Unfortunately we have highly paid recruitment specialists at the club who didn’t get that memo, and just green lit an outlay of 10m on this joker, for one season. Undoubtedly pressured through by our manager, a man who spent 85m on the Brazilian Bebe.
It seems like all the initial hype and excitement about Amrabat, on here and in the media, was built on one ten second gif of him chasing down Mbappe and tackling him at the World Cup. A gif that I am now convinced is a deep fake, because ever since he looks like he is running through treacle.
He’s been, two games aside, absolutely fecking appalling every single time he’s played for us. And not in terms of attitude or application, because I genuinely think that he tries his little heart out for every minute of every game he’s on the pitch, but in terms of the actual football bit of his job. He’s just not very good at it. He gives the ball away constantly because he can’t get the direction or weight of his passes right. He seems constantly caught out of position because the game is moving too quickly for him. And at least half the time he looks like he has no idea how he got there in the first place.
He’s the William Prunier of midfield signings. Just a lot more expensive, and because ETH barely has the leadership nouse that Fergie had in one testicle, he’s here for the whole season, rather than a handful of games. Truly one of our worst ever signings. Luckily we sold Brazilian international Fred for a whopping 8m so we could get this genius in midfield.
Still baffles me how would anyone think he's the player to complement a squad that already has Casemiro and Eriksen in it.
There is no argument on earth that could convince me it would be a good idea to keep 350k per week Casemiro or the midfield William Prunier, beyond the end of the season. If we are serious about even finishing in the top six next season, then both have to go and two midfielders need to be signed. One a technical 6/8, and one a pure 6 with more physical qualities. Players who are fairly young, so we can actually build for the future for once. Players like Neves and Onana, although I’m not convinced by Onana (but that profile of player).
Casemiro is on massive wages and his legs are gone. If we can get a decent fee from SA we should be biting their hand off, and if we can’t we should be cutting our losses and getting his wages off the books. And Amrabat should be given a one way ticket back to Florence. He’s never good enough, in a million years, to play for United. He couldn’t even get in West Ham’s midfield. He has no place being at United.
I had in general, I just hope we find a suitable replacement. We definitely a consistent perform as a DM.
Makes you wonder why or how he was on our radar; he's evidently really, really average. A trier, but they are ten a penny and many are considerably better than this guy.
Seems like the kind of player a Moyes would look at before moving on.
When he moves with the ball he has the belief he is Modric but then reality kicks in and they steal the ball from him. Time and time again. You would think he learned from it but he doesn’t. I am sure he went to sleep in his Modric pyjamas tonight.
Yes you get the impression he thinks he's better than he is. Of course that becomes a big problem!
The bits where he kicks it ahead of himself then realises halfway through that that he hasn't the pace or acceleration to catch up to his own attempted progressions, would be comedy gold if they weren't so tragic. He has that penchant of overrunning his own action and then having to make a tackle attempt... on his own progression... because it's broken loose. It's anxiety inducing and I bet his teammates have half an eye and doubt on him most of the time.
Did someone say he was press resistant???
Safe to say peripheral vision is not a strong point with him.
Safe to say peripheral vision is not a strong point with him.
That made me laugh out loud.
He is not our player thank god and so not our problem anymore.
I honestly felt bad for him watching that performance.
Wish him well, but nowhere near good enough. Thankfully just a loan.
Wish him well, but nowhere near good enough. Thankfully just a loan.
He can do some last ditch tackles well (Anthony Gordon may disagree) and he showed what we need in midfield, but not good enough due to the frequent brainfarts/lack of control. That said, I think he should and will start the Cup Final
At this point I just want to remind everybody that when we signed him, the story was that ETH wanted him and that our recruitment team felt he wasn't up to it. Of course, the club backed the manager and he got his way.
As per my previous post, he was obviously green lit by the club, but there were a few journalists that said that our scouts and recruitment team were at odds with ETH over this one.
The club are just a disasterclass and backed some guy who everybody bought into being some sort of football genius. Even if they'd have applied the slightest bit of critical analysis of the situation, they'd have surely come to the conclusion that even Ajax weren't relying on him to identify signings to that level. He had proven people above him who were organising these things. We're just a fecking joke of a club at times (most of the time these days). And some of our moronic supporters were happy with this approach.
So bloody slow, no awareness. It’s good that this is only a loan.
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