Social Media Justice: A "Karen" faces consequences for threatening a Black man with cops
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Beat me to it
& before the ‘we need to see what happened before she started recording’ brigade turn up - what in the hell does someone have to do to have a gun pulled on them in a parking lot by a fellow civilian honestly.
Fair play to the woman recording.
There's always someone who responds to these "if this happened to me I'd (implied violence)". Like, that's going to go down well, spending years in prison because of a minor scuffle.
Yep & the woman behind the trigger is looking for a reason to pull it; any violence there & people aren’t simply going to prison for a few years - it’s the hospital at best.
Seems she was released pretty soon after.
I wonder what goes through your head to pull a gun in such a situation, which, on the surface, seems to innocuous.
Anyone else thinks she looks like police the way she was holding her gun?
I need twitter to find me the biography on this woman, something doesn’t sit right.
I need twitter to find me the biography on this woman, something doesn’t sit right.
The whole mindset is completely alien to me. Never mind pulling a gun, I can’t even relate to the desire to own one.
If you live in a neighborhood where plenty of people carry guns and there are regular break ins it's a very natural desire. A gun becomes a difference maker. In certain situations its perfect for home defense.
You feeling you need to know the biography of a woman half a world away doesn’t sit right with me.
Almost as unsettling as you thinking i care if something is not sitting right with you.
We’ve been down this Karen road before, let’s move on before the back & forth. I forget how literal this place can be.
It happened in Spokane Valley not Vegas
Fair enough, the twitter handle threw me. Meth is meth, though, no matter where you do it and the Northwester US is full of it.
I think we might have gone full circle.
Hmmm. . .
She definitely said she’d ‘beat his white ass’. . .
I’m now wondering what she was up to behind the car. . .
Still unsure why she would be pulling guns on a lady in front of her daughter; but again, the lady did threaten violence - was she feeling scared for her safety. . .
Hmm. . .
Why were they begging the man to do something? Just to film it?
What a strange world of people we live in
What a strange world of people we live in
This morning I thought that they were all obnoxious, the last video just cemented my opinion. The woman filming was escalating things in the tweeted video and the woman with the gun is a lunatic. It's a miracle that no one was hurt.
I’ve heard a lot of people wish [somebody] would do something & daring [somebody] to do something.
She calls her a b*tch, he takes offence then turns towards the mother, she then repeats it & says she’ll put hands on him if he says something - I wouldn’t call it begging the man, I’d say it’s a warning.
Either way the mother isn’t setting a great example of turning the other cheek or rising above here. If her child was pushed she needed to raise it better.
That being said if someone did something to my child then wanted to act like nothing happened I wouldn’t bother recording but they’d leave knowing not to touch my child, or any other, again.
Given the mentalists involved it’s a miracle no one was shot.
Guess people see what they want to see, I thought I heard them both repeatedly saying do something please. Because they wanted to film it or retaliate or whatever I don’t know.
shows the internet is full of let’s divide videos and feck context of anything
A pair of cnuts.
Definitely.
I read your post & rewatched that part a few times; definitely goading to a lot of people. I’ve just heard the terminology quite abit so see it slightly differently.
They do both say do something btw, you heard correct I’m just hearing it with a different context but regardless of that the mother’s acting terribly & in the long run could have put her daughter in life threatening danger.
Sometimes I wish the forum had a thumbs up so I could just give you that to your post and move on. I’ve got nothing really to say to it or disagree but don’t want to ignore your reply
Sometimes I wish the forum had a thumbs up so I could just give you that to your post and move on. I’ve got nothing really to say to it or disagree but don’t want to ignore your reply
I’m basically doing the same. We really do need a like button.
Erm ....
(I'm as guilty as you on this most times as well )I think it won't make sense to us because we are not from gun touting USA. But there are over 400m guns in civilian circulation over there, so most people have a gun.
Having seen both VDO's, it seems as though the black mother is continually escalating the situation, whilst the white lady was trying to calm her down. and then her daughter jumped behind the reversing car ... in a gun owning culture, I guess its natural for the white lady to tell them to bugger off by waving a gun? Personally I think the black lady and her daughter are to blame.
But, yeah, someone is going to get shot for social media likes very soon.
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Erm ....
I think it won't make sense to us because we are not from gun touting USA. But there are over 400m guns in civilian circulation over there, so most people have a gun.
Having seen both VDO's, it seems as though the black mother is continually escalating the situation, whilst the white lady was trying to calm her down. and then her daughter jumped behind the reversing car ... in a gun owning culture, I guess its natural for the white lady to tell them to bugger off by waving a gun? Personally I think the black lady and her daughter are to blame.
But, yeah, someone is going to get shot for social media likes very soon.
I’ve come around a little since my first comment; still not sure it needed a gun but like you say in a culture where you can carry concealed weapons I’d be a little less. . . aggressive.
It appears that it wasn’t actually necessary to pull the gun in this incident.
The husband has been fired which seems harsh given what we saw in the longer video.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...chipotle-parking-lot-gun-incident/5366368002/
The husband has been fired which seems harsh given what we saw in the longer video.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...chipotle-parking-lot-gun-incident/5366368002/
Dave Coulter - Oakland County Sherriff said:
No idea what happened to start the two ladies harassing the couple, but from what I saw in the video, was the mother and daughter trying to start a fight, be racist themselves. Meanwhile the lady was calm and attempting to leave, before the other lady tried to block her/pretend to get hit to further the escalation. No surprise at that point the other lady snapped and drew the gun to protect herself and then allow herself escape.
If two crazy folk were harassing you, its no surprise a weapon was drawn, not only to protect yourself, but also to give you space in order to get out of the situation. Even more so in America where guns are a normal part of their society.
If two crazy folk were harassing you, its no surprise a weapon was drawn, not only to protect yourself, but also to give you space in order to get out of the situation. Even more so in America where guns are a normal part of their society.
Yeah, go find her and kill her. There will never be a moment less likely to hold you to account for it.
American gun culture is so fecking insane but surely the point of allowing people to carry guns is so that they can use them when they fear for their physical safety? Based on the longer video this woman was in a situation which was escalating to a point where it was likely to get violent, then used her gun to exit the situation without hurting anyone. Why is that against the law? Are you only supposed to draw your weapon after someone else has drawn on you? Genuinely curious here. The whole thing is so fecking nuts it’s hard to make sense of any of it.
Not really, she went to her car and eventually picked her gun instead of getting to her car and simply leave. She has zero excuse, it was just a shouting contest and there was no reason to draw a gun, she was physically safe while in her car.
People need to think about what happens when she pull that trigger, she would have potentially killed someone for shouting and slamming her car. That's a very stupid reason to go to jail. And firearms are to be used with a clear mind, not when you are afraid or nervous that's an other issue with the gun culture in America and many other places.
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They were trying to get in their car and leave but were blocked in. That was when the confrontation got really heated and potentially violent. I definitely think she shouldn’t have drawn a gun. My personal opinion is that she shouldn’t be allowed to carry a gun.
I’m just curious about why she is legally allowed to carry a gun but apparently not allowed to use it when physically threatened. Is it only ok to draw your gun if the other person also has a gun? If your potential assailant is unarmed do you have to wait until after they’ve already laid hands on you before taking your gun out? As I said, I’m not shit-stirring. Just curious.
They weren't blocked in, the closest car is at least 2 parking places away on the left, they chose to leave the car and confront the women with a gun. And she didn't had a gun during the shouting contest, she picked it later when she was already in a safe place and what she did was brandishing a deadly weapon which is generally illegal even during a fight or quarrel.
They were blocked in by the person standing behind their car when they tried to reverse out. That’s when it all kicked off.
They weren't blocked they had room upfront and on the left.
Yes they were. Feck’s sake. Watch the video. Yes, they could have tried driving out anyway, despite the people they’re arguing with being willing to step in front of their vehicle, but that arguably carried a higher risk of someone getting hurt than pulling the gun.
I watched the video and that's why I say that they werent blocked, you have the girl at the back and plenty of room upfront and on the left. They chose to not leave and confront them, just look at the video at 1:34, they backed the entire length of the car, at 2:07 you can see where the first car on the left is. They had plenty of room.
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She enters her car, closing her door & is in no immediate danger. She spends the beginning part of the longer video doing well to hold her nerve; by the time she returns from the car with the gun she’s quite obviously had enough.
Being shouted at is not cause for murder.
There was an advisory post/thread here a while back.
Off the back of that.... Is there value In threads like these? The last few have been so divisive. All of us discuss situations we often can’t relate to, and have scant detail on. Many times they unravel, with a trail of forum destruction and division in their wake.
All this noise just raises tension and seems to be in direct opposition to the advisory post I mention.
Consider it this way... we have a higher threshold for Transfer rumours, than we do for public shaming and judgement.
I’d like to know what people think, but I’ll be putting all threads like this on the block list from tomorrow on. I know that nobody cares, not looking for any holier than thou halo polishing. I think discussion is needed and overdue though.
Off the back of that.... Is there value In threads like these? The last few have been so divisive. All of us discuss situations we often can’t relate to, and have scant detail on. Many times they unravel, with a trail of forum destruction and division in their wake.
All this noise just raises tension and seems to be in direct opposition to the advisory post I mention.
Consider it this way... we have a higher threshold for Transfer rumours, than we do for public shaming and judgement.
I’d like to know what people think, but I’ll be putting all threads like this on the block list from tomorrow on. I know that nobody cares, not looking for any holier than thou halo polishing. I think discussion is needed and overdue though.