Social Media Justice: A "Karen" faces consequences for threatening a Black man with cops

Dante said:


We actually do have some eye witness testimony.

The road rage was probably real. No mention of any racism, though, despite ample opportunity to discuss it with the lady who saw it happen.
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It’s hard to work out what she’s saying but even if there was some “road rage” we’ve probably all flicked the v’s at strangers who we think are driving like assholes.

Following them the whole way home is a huge escalation though. Especially when it’s a man who corners a woman. Any man who would do that should be ashamed of himself. In my opinion.

That said, the way she reacted when he filmed her number plate does make it seem like she was more worried about her reputation than her safety.
 
I've only read the latest page of this thread and I genuinely have no idea what's going on.

Are all Karens evil now?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It’s hard to work out what she’s saying but even if there was some “road rage” we’ve probably all flicked the v’s at strangers who we think are driving like assholes.

Following them the whole way home is a huge escalation though. Especially when it’s a man who corners a woman. That said, the way she reacted when he filmed her number plate does make it seem like she was more worried about her reputation than her safety.
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Agreed.

I don't think she was worried about her physical safety at all. She spent the entire video hiding her face and her licence plate. Presumably because she didn't want to lose her job and have her life ruined. It's a reasonable response. Especially when she's so hard up that the car she's driving a 1996 Geo Metro valued at about $400. A week or two without a paycheck would conceivably be a huge deal for her.

If somebody came up to you and said that on a flip of a coin, you would either lose everything or carry on as normal, you'd probably be a bit upset at having to face the prospect. Some people might even panic. I don't think her reaction reflected well on her. But I understand it.
 
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Dante said:
She spent the entire video hiding her face and her licence plate. Presumably because she didn't want to lose her job and have her life ruined. It's a reasonable response.
If somebody came up to you and said that on a flip of a coin, you would either lose everything or carry on as normal, you'd probably be a bit upset at having to face the prospect. Some people might even panic. I don't think her reaction reflected well on her. But I understand it.
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If she was totally innocent from committing any form of racism, and was totally confident of that fact, then why not confidently say into camera "I didn't do or say what you claim, so its impossible you have any evidence of me being racist" (or words to that effect). That's what I would immediately do if I was falsely accused of something.

She gets out of her car and is wailing within 5 seconds: Why the instant hysterics, of which he does nothing to provoke?
If it was just a road rage violation, why not just state that's what it was?
What exactly is she afraid of?
 
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sammsky1 said:
If she was totally innocent from committing any form of racism, and was totally confident of that fact, then why not confidently say into camera "I didn't do or say what you claim, so its impossible you have any evidence of me being racist" (or words to that effect). Thats what i would immediately do if I was falsely accused of something.

If it was just a road rage violation, why not just state that's what it was?
What exactly is she afraid of?
She gets out of her car and is wailing within 5 seconds: Why the instant hysterics, of which he does nothing to provoke?
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Aye, personally it's pretty clear she did it. Probably second nature without really thinking about her actions, then when he gets out and starts filming her she immediately realises the repercussions of her actions and loses her shit.

He's a prick for profiting out of it mind.
 
sammsky1 said:
If she was totally innocent from committing any form of racism, and was totally confident of that fact, then why not confidently say into camera "I didn't do or say what you claim, so its impossible you have any evidence of me being racist" (or words to that effect). Thats what i would immediately do if I was falsely accused of something.

If it was just a road rage violation, why not just state that's what it was?
What exactly is she afraid of?
She gets out of her car and is wailing within 5 seconds: Why the instant hysterics, of which he does nothing to provoke?
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I don't know. Maybe she was on the blob. She constantly denies everything though, I don't know how you could possibly miss that. None of the eye witnesses ever mention racism either.

It's not a crime to be an idiot or to be emotionally fragile or to be unable to think straight in a difficult circumstance. But it is easy to be clever after the fact.
 
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So, accusations of racism aside, this is what I perceive to have happened here:

  • Two vehicles, a Honda Fit and a Geo Metro are travelling in the same direction on a two lane road. With the Honda possibly slightly ahead of the Geo.
  • At some point, the road becomes single lane and the Honda merges into the single lane as you would (not signalling is cnuty, though, even if it's following the flow of the lane)
  • The Geo's driver feels wronged, races ahead, possibly giving the Honda driver the finger, cuts in front and does a brake check (a supreme dick move and complete over response, which I have almost gotten into a fight over [twice], personally)
  • The Honda driver, having the time, follows the Geo driver and at some point he Geo driver attempts to pull off the road, they get out and the confrontation happens.
  • Being called out for their road rage, the Geo driver enters a state of hysteria upon realizing she is being filmed. Note she initially approaches the Honda driver with her hands up and not in hysterics.
  • The Honda driver remains fairly calm and is largely non-threatening, although these days you can say a smartphone recording you is some type of low level threat.

Where they Karen I: Geo driver karens when she is being called out for the road rage incident. Why doesn;t she accept that her reaction was terrible, apologize and move on?
Where they Karen II: Honda driver seems to also be a Karen and appears to have a history of this sort of thing. As the saying goes, if everyoneyou encounter acts like a cnut, maybe you are the cnut.

Verdict: Karen vs. Karen, though I have some sympathy for the Honda driver because brake checkers deserve to be throttled mercilessly and dumped in a canal.
 
Reading all that happened in this incident it's obvious to me that Karlos is after a bit of fame and I feel really bad for the woman because I feel her life is still going to get ruined after this.

The guy also been on divorce court btw
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It’s hard to work out what she’s saying but even if there was some “road rage” we’ve probably all flicked the v’s at strangers who we think are driving like assholes.

Following them the whole way home is a huge escalation though. Especially when it’s a man who corners a woman. Any man who would do that should be ashamed of himself. In my opinion.

That said, the way she reacted when he filmed her number plate does make it seem like she was more worried about her reputation than her safety.
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Given that there are people on foot who saw it I doubt he had to follow her very far and he wasn't being at all aggressive.
 
Olly Gunnar Solskjær said:
Yeah for sure. The thread on this latest incident and the Justin Bieber one the other days shows they really need to cool it with the jumping to conclusions so quickly.
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Not only jumping to conclusions but the excessive banning of everyone saying there wasn't enough evidence to believe this guy.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
So, accusations of racism aside, this is what I perceive to have happened here:

  • Two vehicles, a Honda Fit and a Geo Metro are travelling in the same direction on a two lane road. With the Honda possibly slightly ahead of the Geo.
  • At some point, the road becomes single lane and the Honda merges into the single lane as you would (not signalling is cnuty, though, even if it's following the flow of the lane)
  • The Geo's driver feels wronged, races ahead, possibly giving the Honda driver the finger, cuts in front and does a brake check (a supreme dick move and complete over response, which I have almost gotten into a fight over [twice], personally)
  • The Honda driver, having the time, follows the Geo driver and at some point he Geo driver attempts to pull off the road, they get out and the confrontation happens.
  • Being called out for their road rage, the Geo driver enters a state of hysteria upon realizing she is being filmed. Note she initially approaches the Honda driver with her hands up and not in hysterics.
  • The Honda driver remains fairly calm and is largely non-threatening, although these days you can say a smartphone recording you is some type of low level threat.

Where they Karen I: Geo driver karens when she is being called out for the road rage incident. Why doesn;t she accept that her reaction was terrible, apologize and move on?
Where they Karen II: Honda driver seems to also be a Karen and appears to have a history of this sort of thing. As the saying goes, if everyoneyou encounter acts like a cnut, maybe you are the cnut.

Verdict: Karen vs. Karen, though I have some sympathy for the Honda driver because brake checkers deserve to be throttled mercilessly and dumped in a canal.
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Nah, she (the Geo driver) seems very ungobby for a Karen, if there is a definition for a Karen wouldn't it include; Never backs, down, doubles down, proves without doubt that they will Karen their way out of this if at all possible? If this is a Karen then she has little confidence in her part.

I don't know, all a bit suss on the detail, I have few doubts there was some cutting up, maybe by both, a few hand signals not approved in the Highway Code but in general we'll all see this during an average amount of journeys and most of us have the good sense to leave it all well enough alone or eventually we'll be a seething mess of anger, possibly with a knife left sticking in some part of us.

What we want out of our Karen Events does not seem to be overly satisfied here and the 'Victim' is not playing... the Victim very well.

Verdict.
Move on to the next undoubtable Karen moment asap.
 
oates said:
Nah, she (the Geo driver) seems very ungobby for a Karen, if there is a definition for a Karen wouldn't it include; Never backs, down, doubles down, proves without doubt that they will Karen their way out of this if at all possible? If this is a Karen then she has little confidence in her part.

I don't know, all a bit suss on the detail, I have few doubts there was some cutting up, maybe by both, a few hand signals not approved in the Highway Code but in general we'll all see this during an average amount of journeys and most of us have the good sense to leave it all well enough alone or eventually we'll be a seething mess of anger, possibly with a knife left sticking in some part of us.

What we want out of our Karen Events does not seem to be overly satisfied here and the 'Victim' is not playing... the Victim very well.

Verdict.
Move on to the next undoubtable Karen moment asap.
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I don't know, oates. She's reacting badly to being called out for shitty behaviour, refusing to acknowledge this and shutting down any discourse by being loud and obnoxious for no reason. I don't want to accuse her of weaponizing her gender in this one but it certainly looks a bit like that. "You're assaulting me!" Scream scream scream. I'll bet she was real gobby when she was safely in her car, flipping this guy the bird.

While most road rage incidents are indeed forgettable, a hard brake check is a horribly cnutish thing to do and anyone that does it deserves everything that's coming to them (except being crashed into).

But, overall this video wasn't enjoyable from any angle. 2/10. Next!
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
I don't know, oates. She's reacting badly to being called out for shitty behaviour, refusing to acknowledge this and shutting down any discourse by being loud and obnoxious for no reason. I don't want to accuse her of weaponizing her gender in this one but it certainly looks a bit like that. "You're assaulting me!" Scream scream scream. I'll bet she was real gobby when she was safely in her car, flipping this guy the bird.

While most road rage incidents are indeed forgettable, a hard brake check is a horribly cnutish thing to do and anyone that does it deserves everything that's coming to them (except being crashed into).

But, overall this video wasn't enjoyable from any angle. 2/10. Next!
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I think you are probably right about being gobby in her car, we all feel safe while we have a cage around us but she couldn't maintain it when tracked 4 or is it 5 blocks from the original incident?

The trouble with brake checking someone is all too often people actually brake. When you slow down the person behind may not in time. Try turning your lights off and on and disappear into the distance!

Agreed 2/10 :lol:
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
I don't know, oates. She's reacting badly to being called out for shitty behaviour, refusing to acknowledge this and shutting down any discourse by being loud and obnoxious for no reason. I don't want to accuse her of weaponizing her gender in this one but it certainly looks a bit like that. "You're assaulting me!" Scream scream scream. I'll bet she was real gobby when she was safely in her car, flipping this guy the bird.

While most road rage incidents are indeed forgettable, a hard brake check is a horribly cnutish thing to do and anyone that does it deserves everything that's coming to them (except being crashed into).

But, overall this video wasn't enjoyable from any angle. 2/10. Next!
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It seemed to me that she saw the guy filming and was freaking out about getting cancelled since he immediately calls her a karen and films hee license plate, I don't believe him at all and feel really bad for the lady who might be receiving death rates over it or might get fired from her job because someone is trying to gain fame on her expense, he never once mentioned racism infront of witnesses and he seems like a bit of an attention seeker.

The poor woman already got doxxed, he is selling merch about this ffs.
 
sammsky1 said:
is a typical karen response to get back people slammed.
He also did nothing to her except film her.
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Wibble said:
Given that there are people on foot who saw it I doubt he had to follow her very far and he wasn't being at all aggressive.
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When did recording people without consent become an acceptable thing to do? A man following a woman to her home and taking a video of her crying (and refusing to stop) is clearly being an aggressive prick.
 
it's not very Karenesque, just a very bizarre reaction

I wonder if we'll start attributing different names to the varying different types of meltdowns online

she seems like more of a Judy to me
 
VP said:
When did recording people without consent become an acceptable thing to do? A man following a woman to her home and taking a video of her crying (and refusing to stop) is clearly being an aggressive prick.
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Recording people in public is entirely legal in most places. And it is her number plate and not her person she seems distraught about protecting. He didn't approach her or even speak aggressively. If she cut him off and flipped him the middle digit and even more so if she was racist why shouldn't he say something. Being female does get you a pass on bad behaviour. And as for followed, how far did he follow her if the witnesses where on the scene and on foot. Plus here reaction is VERY bizarre.
 
Wibble said:
Recording people in public is entirely legal in most places. And it is her number plate and not her person she seems distraught about protecting. He didn't approach her or even speak aggressively. If she cut him off and flipped him the middle digit and even more so if she was racist why shouldn't he say something. Being female does get you a pass on bad behaviour. And as for followed, how far did he follow her if the witnesses where on the scene and on foot. Plus here reaction is VERY bizarre.
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It may be legal but it's still not a nice thing to do (much like flipping the bird). Her bizarre reaction seems like a nervous breakdown which makes not recording it (and publishing it on a social media platform) all the more the decent thing to do. Being a minority doesn't give you a pass on bad behaviour either.
 
sammsky1 said:
So unless there is evidence, it didn't happen, is that it? Are PoC meant to have phones permanently on record for the moment they get racially abused? Anyway, he makes the allegation 4 or 5 times in the 15 min video.

It's obvious to me that she did what the man is accusing her of, else he wouldn't have been so enraged to follow and confront her. Else why would he? And she then is obviously trying to weaponise her reactions (wailing like a banshee, screaming 'stop threatening me', claiming 'he’ll ruin her life'). She could have destroyed his life by her accusing screams and yet she puts up a hysterical show for her oncoming twitteratti judgement.

Social media pile ons are now an established part of culture and people should know that. It's a very effective deterrent for racist people: don't be racist, and twitter won't come after you. In this case, she is very lucky that the man wasn't able to capture her racism on film, so Twitter will let it slip.

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Why is it obvious to you? Because it’s what you want to see or have happened? The guy is acting like a knob, he clearly knows the Karen meme and is calling her Karen for humour. there’s no trauma on his part, seems he just wanted a video with some views and likes to me.

he seems pissed if that’s hes been spun, Not that he’s being called anything, that he just mentions briefly, so he’s blocked a woman in and harassed her? Real hardman
 
sammsky1 said:
If she was totally innocent from committing any form of racism, and was totally confident of that fact, then why not confidently say into camera "I didn't do or say what you claim, so its impossible you have any evidence of me being racist" (or words to that effect). That's what I would immediately do if I was falsely accused of something.

She gets out of her car and is wailing within 5 seconds: Why the instant hysterics, of which he does nothing to provoke?
If it was just a road rage violation, why not just state that's what it was?
What exactly is she afraid of?
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Because she’s just been followed home and fecking blocked in by a bloke after spinning him. Jesus Christ man
 
Yeah Karlos comes across as a clout chaser, lost any sympathy he deserved.
 
2mufc0 said:
Yeah Karlos comes across as a clout chaser, lost any sympathy he deserved.
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That guy is an absolute thundercnut.

My mother would have an absolute melt down if someone followed her home and started filming her. She’s probably/possibly flipped someone off before too.

The escalation is insane and that guy is garbage.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
That guy is an absolute thundercnut.

My mother would have an absolute melt down if someone followed her home and started filming her. She’s probably/possibly flipped someone off before too.

The escalation is insane and that guy is garbage.
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I do love the sanctimony of this place but you’re totally ignoring a key part of the videos i posted; multiple people corroborate his story about her initially following him.

This isn’t about your mother whom I assume wouldn’t begin to pursue someone then wail for 10 minutes because the person she chased is also unhinged.

As has been evidenced this guy is on the look out for offence but that doesn’t absolve ‘karen’ of any guilt here. If anything the fact that he can go ‘karen hunting’ & find a willing participant so easily is a sign of the issue.

A person shouldn’t have to record a racist incident for it to be believed but we can park the ‘n word’ claim & still there is proof [multiple passers by] who say she initiated the aggression - it doesn’t make him any less of a thundercnut but the similarities of her wailing overreaction to those of Amy Cooper aren’t simply coincidental; she started the whole episode then cowers in terror because she’s ‘being attacked’. That isn’t on.

Zlatan 7 said:
Because she’s just been followed home and fecking blocked in by a bloke after spinning him. Jesus Christ man
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She initially followed him. Moral of the story, don’t follow someone then be shocked when they’re as mad [if not more so] than you are.

During her screeching I can decipher her worrying that, “you’re going to ruin my life & you don’t even know me”, she’s also coherent enough to cover her licence plate - she’s not simply rambling in terror; I can’t categorically say she is/was racist at any point but passers by say she began the whole issue; she wasn’t simply followed home & set upon.

She doesn’t deny his accusations instead trying to say she’s the victim; whilst it’s a stressful situation she seems lucid enough to put some sentences together but none in her defence.

There’s no need to be so in one persons favour here; they obviously both need help.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
I do love the sanctimony of this place but you’re totally ignoring a key part of the videos i posted; multiple people corroborate his story about her initially following him.

This isn’t about your mother whom I assume wouldn’t begin to pursue someone then wail for 10 minutes because the person she chased is also unhinged.

As has been evidenced this guy is on the look out for offence but that doesn’t absolve ‘karen’ of any guilt here. If anything the fact that he can go ‘karen hunting’ & find a willing participant so easily is a sign of the issue.

A person shouldn’t have to record a racist incident for it to be believed but we can park the ‘n word’ claim & still there is proof [multiple passers by] who say she initiated the aggression - it doesn’t make him any less of a thundercnut but the similarities of her wailing overreaction to those of Amy Cooper aren’t simply coincidental; she started the whole episode then cowers in terror because she’s ‘being attacked’. That isn’t on.


She initially followed him. Moral of the story, don’t follow someone then be shocked when they’re as mad [if not more so] than you are.

During her screeching I can decipher her worrying that, “you’re going to ruin my life & you don’t even know me”, she’s also coherent enough to cover her licence plate - she’s not simply rambling in terror; I can’t categorically say she is/was racist at any point but passers by say she began the whole issue; she wasn’t simply followed home & set upon.

She doesn’t deny his accusations instead trying to say she’s the victim; whilst it’s a stressful situation she seems lucid enough to put some sentences together but none in her defence.

There’s no need to be so in one persons favour here; they obviously both need help.
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You’ve literally just agreed with my post. While trying to suggest I’m wrong-headed.

I do not want society to look like that. If you feel you do, shutdown your computer, leave your phone at home and go for a walk. You need some perspective.
 
AFC NimbleThumb said:
I do love the sanctimony of this place but you’re totally ignoring a key part of the videos i posted; multiple people corroborate his story about her initially following him.
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I have to admit to being a bit hazy on the facts of the incident myself purely because I understood him to have cut in front of her, her to have overtaken him and cut back in. Her to have brake checked him and he ended up parked behind her blocking her in.

I don't suppose it is vital but at some point they followed each other? This isn't normal behaviour. Yes, it has become quite normal to have a barney with another driver who has managed to get two seconds farther down a road then yourself by not observing your own highway etiquette, then to somehow get the upper hand and signify your feelings of contentment with a choice signal but the stalking? Right out of the Kenneth Noyes (it's a long story and you may not know who he is if you aren't British and on the roads yourself at a certain point in history) playbook.

Either way, she was not in full possession of her earlier confidence when they both got out of their cars and could both be judged to be little shits.
 
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