Social Media Justice: A "Karen" faces consequences for threatening a Black man with cops

Man tells hysterical woman don't worry, he's not going to put it on Instagram. Not only puts it on Instagram but is even selling T-shirts about it.

There's a cruelty about this incident which is disproportionate to the offence, in my view.

Agreed. He is twisting the knife.
 


This clip from last month was an eye-opener. Why on earth would the lady at the restaurant say "whatever n****r' to him in that particular setting? Doesn't make sense.
 
Yeah kinda shitty about meme/clickbait culture are those chasing clout for their insta-stories. With all the real and very horrendous examples or racism, you'll get the occasional Jussie Smollett so its important to not always deploy the pitchforks too quickly
 
Yeah kinda shitty about meme/clickbait culture are those chasing clout for their insta-stories. With all the real and very horrendous examples or racism, you'll get the occasional Jussie Smollett so its important to not always deploy the pitchforks too quickly
Well, just one fake story a) gives ammunition to people who want to disprove true and important stories and b) ruins lives. I can't imagine what it's like to be doxxed.
 
So Karen or nah?
She's hysterical, highly strung, and overly emotional.

I wouldn't call her a Karen, though.

A Karen specifically exists at the high privilege intersection between white race, female gender, middle class, middle age and self righteous politics. And they use that high privilege to domineer and condescend to people who they see as inferior.

I see no evidence of Karen-ness from the woman in question. Yes, she cries for sympathy. But I think lots of women would do that in this circumstance. It's not a tactic that's exclusive to Karens.
 
She's hysterical, highly strung, and overly emotional.

I wouldn't call her a Karen, though.

A Karen specifically exists at the high privilege intersection between white race, female gender, middle class, middle age and self righteous politics. And they use that high privilege to domineer and condescend to people who they see as inferior.

I see no evidence of Karen-ness from the woman in question. Yes, she cries for sympathy. But I think lots of women would do that in this circumstance. It's not exclusive to Karens.

She is having a panic attack.
 
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I think August Ames (former pornstar) killed herself because of twitter abuse.

Supposed to be a really good documentary about that. She refused to perform with an actor who had previously done gay porn and twitter went after her.
 
I know people mention that twitter is a hyperactive echo-chamber that doesn't allow nuanced debate but a significant number of people on there, more than usual for these sort of public shaming events are blaming the guy as a grifter
 
I've seen the original video being shared all over Facebook and the reactions are as expected when people see the "Karen" title.

It just shows how gullible a majority of humans are (no matter the race, nationality, gender, etc.) and how easy it is to manipulate by using current events that create strong division and emotion in people.
 
I know people mention that twitter is a hyperactive echo-chamber that doesn't allow nuanced debate but a significant number of people on there, more than usual for these sort of public shaming events are blaming the guy as a grifter
What do they mean by that?
 
I know people mention that twitter is a hyperactive echo-chamber that doesn't allow nuanced debate but a significant number of people on there, more than usual for these sort of public shaming events are blaming the guy as a grifter

On the subject of social media going against type, am I the only one who finds his decision to go with an Instagram story as his public shaming tool of choice a little unusual?
 
Interesting read and looks like there's definitely more than meets the eye with this, but also an incredible amount of ignorance, white privilege and whitesplaining displayed by the writer.
Writer does his best to destroy the black guy's character without proving any of his own assertions. Thats what I read.
Oldest and crudest trick in the book when trying to reduce credibility of a person of colour.
 
Remember in the video, he has literally just got out of her car, not thinking calmly having just been abused. Also, he knows he doesn't have evidence of it, so difficult to make the claim.
He mentions it several times in the longer film below after 8 min.
I believe him, because he was so affronted, and because of the woman's hysterics.



I don’t know what happened. But anyone that treats someone in that level of distress, like that... is a cnut. feck them.

Just because you (May) have right on your side, doesn’t allow you to treat another like a punchbag.

feck all garbage people.
 
What do they mean by that?

An opportunistic con artist or swindler. Basically exploited the very real cultural moment people are having in terms of calling out problematic behaviour to gain viral fame by making hyperbolic or untrue accusations.
 
I've seen the original video being shared all over Facebook and the reactions are as expected when people see the "Karen" title.

It just shows how gullible a majority of humans are (no matter the race, nationality, gender, etc.) and how easy it is to manipulate by using current events that create strong division and emotion in people.

If you frame something a certain way, people can be conned. I mean in general not just with regards this latest incident.

There is a famous story about a kid in school who gave a presentation about how dangerous the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide" is. "It can burn you as a gas. It causes global warming. It erodes granite." The student said this as a presentation and all the other students agreed. But dihydrogen monoxide is just another name for water.

The moral is, if you frame something a certain way, you can determine how people react.
 
An opportunistic con artist or swindler. Basically exploited the very real cultural moment people are having in terms of calling out problematic behaviour to gain viral fame by making hyperbolic or untrue accusations.

Thanks.
 
She's hysterical, highly strung, and overly emotional.

I wouldn't call her a Karen, though.

A Karen specifically exists at the high privilege intersection between white race, female gender, middle class, middle age and self righteous politics. And they use that high privilege to domineer and condescend to people who they see as inferior.

I see no evidence of Karen-ness from the woman in question. Yes, she cries for sympathy. But I think lots of women would do that in this circumstance. It's not a tactic that's exclusive to Karens.

Not all Karen’s are white. Or female. Or middle class. Or middle age.

It’s the entitlement and attitude that defines.
 
On the subject of social media going against type, am I the only one who finds his decision to go with an Instagram story as his public shaming tool of choice a little unusual?

I'd imagine that instagram stories being short (max 15 seconds) would make a certain moment or comment go viral and more likely to spark outrage. In this instance her screaming out "i have a black husband" is the part that sparked the trending topic with outrage and hot takes started there.

Whereas when people saw the rest of the stories and gained a bigger picture more skepticism evolved around the situation
 
Writer does his best to destroy the black guy's character without proving any of his own assertions. Thats what I read.
Oldest and crudest trick in the book when trying to reduce credibility of a person of colour.

The article says 'he has no proof to say if it happened or not' before then launching a staunch opinion piece on why it didn't happen, despite zero proof. Destroying his character while painting her as the poor victim. It's really actually a shocking read on second viewing. Whether she said it or not is a story on its own, but the logical fallacies and mental gymnastics on display in this article have nothing to do with whether or not she said it, and just serve to take a side despite zero evidence either way.
 
Not all Karen’s are white. Or female. Or middle class. Or middle age.

It’s the entitlement and attitude that defines.
No, that's exactly what Karens are.

Entitlement is a different matter. Give people with that attitude a different name, if you like.
 
The article says 'he has no proof to say if it happened or not' before then launching a staunch opinion piece on why it didn't happen, despite zero proof. Destroying his character while painting her as the poor victim. It's really actually a shocking read on second viewing. Whether she said it or not is a story on its own, but the logical fallacies and mental gymnastics on display in this article have nothing to do with whether or not she said it, and just serve to take a side despite zero evidence either way.

There’s loads we don’t know. But everything negative the lady may have done relies entirely on one person’s version of events, with none of it caught on camera.

What we do know is that this man followed a middle aged woman - who was on her own - all the way to her home in his car, pulled up right behind her, blocking her in, then confronted her and didn’t let up even after she was a hysterical, weeping mess. An entirely one-sided confrontation in which she was submissive and clearly terrified throughout.

So it doesn’t take a lot of joining of the dots to conclude that maybe there’s more to this than another Karen getting what she deserves.
 
He's selling Karen themed tshirts for feck sake
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Attention seeker and opportunist sounds about right. I wouldn't be surprised if any and all 'Karens' were in on it.
I'm not sure this "Karen" would agree to having her license plate and home address shared online knowing what would follow.
 
There’s loads we don’t know. But everything negative the lady may have done relies entirely on one person’s version of events.

What we do know is that this man followed a middle aged woman - who was on her own - all the way to her home in his car, pulled up right behind her, blocking her in, then confronted her and didn’t let up even after she was a hysterical, weeping mess. An entirely one-sided confrontation in which she was submissive and clearly terrified throughout.

So it doesn’t take a lot of joining of the dots to conclude that maybe there’s more to this than another Karen getting what she deserves.

Absolutely, and that's where it should end but the article goes one step further and despite 0 evidence, uses a tirade of mental gymnastics to point out not that 'there's more to this than we know' but that it actually did not happen, that the 'Karen' is a poor victim and that the black person made it all up and is a cruel sadist. The article should just have said 'we don't actually know what happened, it's one persons word versus another' but that wouldn't be as long of a read or fit their agenda.

It's possible that he made it up, it's possible that he didn't. It's entirely possible and would be completely normal behaviour if she called him the N word in the heat of the moment, and then got upset when she realised what were going to be the consequences of her mistake and that his aggression made her even more terrified if she's a naturally submissive person. None of that means that anything is more likely than anything else.
 
If you frame something a certain way, people can be conned. I mean in general not just with regards this latest incident.

There is a famous story about a kid in school who gave a presentation about how dangerous the chemical "dihydrogen monoxide" is. "It can burn you as a gas. It causes global warming. It erodes granite." The student said this as a presentation and all the other students agreed. But dihydrogen monoxide is just another name for water.

The moral is, if you frame something a certain way, you can determine how people react.
Totally agree with you. One of the main reasons I use social media and forums like this one is to see how people in general respond to different situations, topics, discussions, events, reports. My findings mostly make me even more depressed than usual, so in a cynical and dark way, I try to find some humour in such things to keep myself as sane as possible.

Doesn't really work, but at least I try.
 
There’s loads we don’t know. But everything negative the lady may have done relies entirely on one person’s version of events.

What we do know is that this man followed a middle aged woman - who was on her own - all the way to her home in his car, pulled up right behind her, blocking her in, then confronted her and didn’t let up even after she was a hysterical, weeping mess. An entirely one-sided confrontation in which she was submissive and clearly terrified throughout.

So it doesn’t take a lot of joining of the dots to conclude that maybe there’s more to this than another Karen getting what she deserves.


We actually do have some eye witness testimony.

The road rage was probably real. No mention of any racism, though, despite ample opportunity to discuss it with the lady who saw it happen.
 
I don’t know what happened. But anyone that treats someone in that level of distress, like that... is a cnut. feck them.
Just because you (May) have right on your side, doesn’t allow you to treat another like a punchbag.
feck all garbage people.
is a typical karen response to get back people slammed.
He also did nothing to her except film her.