Sir Jim Ratcliffe would be a terrible owner. He is after the profit motive. Look at the way he is running Niece.
Sir Jim Ratcliffe: I want to buy Manchester United | Will make a bid for the club [Telegraph]
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Sir Jim Ratcliffe would be a terrible owner. He is after the profit motive. Look at the way he is running Niece.
A pea roast from earlier in the year but a good reference for anybody interested in sir Jim.
as other have mentioned, Nice and United are completely different beasts. It's just not comparable.
This bloke can't only not afford us, he also isn't the best option for the club in regards to what we want as fans
The Crown Prince you mean? His deceased brother certainly was a huge fan. But yeah, he is the chairman of ICD worth 300bill USD.
A very steep, vertical overhanging face of rock where rats gather.
He is worth £15bn. He can absolutely afford us. His INEOS company is worth 4x that much. Again, he has the cash available to purchase this club.
How much of that is liquid? It doesn't matter how much he's worth. Elon just almost sank Tesla to buy Twitter, he didn't just have £55b sitting in a bank account.
they could always bring in more partners if needed. But I'd be surprised if INEOS couldn't foot the bill if they're serious about it, as the Telegraph suggests.
That’s not how big deals like this work though.
I wouldn’t be massively against it, just concerned about their dodgy ideals.
All I care about at this moment is the glazers are pissing off!
This guy took a washed up Aaron Ramsey to Nice this season, years after taking over the club.
I say thanks but no thanks. We want Mbappe, Bellingham and Hakimi.
In the age of super rich clubs.... we need to be super rich. In the next few days and weeks there will be richer, more ambitious suitors with better footballing ideas. Let it play out without just backing one of the first guys that came.
I say thanks but no thanks. We want Mbappe, Bellingham and Hakimi.
In the age of super rich clubs.... we need to be super rich. In the next few days and weeks there will be richer, more ambitious suitors with better footballing ideas. Let it play out without just backing one of the first guys that came.
Bring me the Dubai bucks
Everyone says this about their dodgy ideals then you look at the likes of Beckham, Keane and Neville sitting in Qatar making bank. You can only laugh
Nobody really cares if you give them enough money. The media (especially Sky Sports) haven't said anything about City at all but have kicked up this massive fuss over Qatar winning the World Cup.
Can’t disagree. The lack of criticism for city is ridulous.
That's exactly how big deals like this work, you have to sell something to raise capital to buy something. It makes no sense to just be sitting on £14b in a cash account.
Why do people keep referring to Dubai as an oil state? They’re not.
The telegraph also write that ineos want a return on investment in 3 years.
This would be like the Glazer's all over again but with prettier face. Horrible idea.
I don’t understand the fear of somebody wanting a return on investment in the club - as long as profit wasn’t the only motivation this only means driving growth for the club and the best way to do that in our current position is investment. I don’t see anybody buying the club and throwing money good money away after bad. It’s not a realistic scenario.
Qatar? Dubai?
I love how everyone is acting like the oil states (of which Dubai is not) are somehow worse than the West?
Look at the Iraq war, the drone strikes, Guantanamo, the fact the UK and America are built on the backs of slaves…
That doesn’t excuse the behaviour of Saudi but let’s not be blinkered here lads.
Look at the Iraq war, the drone strikes, Guantanamo, the fact the UK and America are built on the backs of slaves…
That doesn’t excuse the behaviour of Saudi but let’s not be blinkered here lads.
I think they said they want either ROI or an increase in value? Like if the club appreciated a lot in the next three years that would suffice is how I read it.
seeing as we’re on the verge of a global financial meltdown worse than 2008 that might not happen though
You do realise he is worth £15bn, right?
You don't have to be an "altruistic soul" to spend some of your own money on improving the club you support. He's previously spoken about wanting to leave a legacy behind now that he's in his 70s. Paying off United's existing debts would be a tap in for him in terms of beginning to cement his legacy.
He's a lifelong United fan who went to a few Chelsea games because Stamford Bridge was on his doorstep. It's really not that big of a deal. Besides, even if he was a diehard Chelsea fan, that in no way strengthens your argument that he'd be as bad for us as the Glazers. Your agenda against Ratcliffe is a bit weird. What's he done to offend you this deeply?
Oh I get it. You dislike Ratcliffe because he was a Brexit supporter. Dry your eyes mate. There's plenty of other billionaires out there who have done a lot worse than being pro-Leave.
Dunno really what point you’re making mate? Not in a hostile way genuinely confused.
UAE has it's issues, but out of all the gulf states it's one of the best.
I am agreeing with your points.
Also poking fun at those that claim sportswashing' because the read it in a newspaper. But if you ask these same people how City owners have sports-washed they wouldn't be able to string two sentences together.
I think it's just a modern term for money laundering through sport.
Self aware is the last thing ol Elon is
And if the USA was trying to buy United those same fans would speak out. There's a difference between companies or individuals from a nation buying a club, and nation states themselves buying clubs. There are loads of countries around the world with poor human rights records, or which are built on the back of Colonial empires, but Belgium or the UK haven't recently purchased any football clubs. The UAE, Qatar and Saudi all have.
It means cleaning up your questionable image using the medium of popular sports. A bit like how everyone's forgotten Newcastle owners are a bunch of journalist murdering, terrorist sponsoring monsters.
Yeah absolutely convinced of it
Yeah one thing that the Dubai investment haters might want to bear in mind is that they do know how to put the right football people in place whereas with Ratcliffe I don't know if he does.
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Yeah my two main concerns with him are
A. Does he have wealth needed
B. Can he put proper Football people in place
Brailsford going to replace Murtough?
See that already would be shocking decision
It is the opposite.
You don't rate Brailsford?
I do in Cycling but have serious concerns that Ratcliffe will put mates in place
I was a bit surprised to learn about someone from a Cycling background being made director of sport at OGC Nice. But I do expect Brailsford to accompany Ratcliffe if he does end up buying the club.