I mean, it should literally go without saying. Even those incompetent buffoons know the deal.
? I didn’t say he wasHe is not regular staff in any way shape or form.
There is no grounds to liken one to the other. We’re the cushy franchise because of him; that we have billions to piss away is because he lined the clubs coffers with it in the first place.? I didn’t say he was
Thought as much. I’ll be honest, it would be ridiculous to cut the lowest paid employees whilst retaining someone on a £2m per year pension.Yes. You can be sure that this decision wasn’t made without SAF’s blessings.
They shouldn’t be cutting payment.You do realise he is still remaining a non-Exec director? They aren't completely cutting ties with him, and will still get paid for that role. I'm not sure what you think is controversial about it.
Sentimentality aside, seems overdue. Do any other clubs ever do this sort of thing out of interest?
He doesn't as far as I know. The ambassador contract on top of what he was getting for being a non executive board member was basically his thank you gift from the club and Glazers siblings.Surely he has company shares and gets dividends? (a decent amount I would have thought)
Can you give examples? Am genuinely interested.
And they have more than lined his, and still are with his non-Exec role. He is probably making more out of the role than this ambassador role anyway, I think you need to calm down.There is no grounds to liken one to the other. We’re the cushy franchise because of him; that we have billions to piss away is because he lined the clubs coffers with it in the first place.
They shouldn’t be cutting payment.
The correct move from Ineos.
United cut certain staff on redundancy packages as they are a business making a loss. The loss is exacerbated by the debt leveraged onto it by the Glazers.
It's also uncompetitive. City, for example, run a better operation on half the staff numbers United do.
Fact is the club has been mismanaged on a variety of levels, and is overstaffed. There isn't a sincere business in the world which would not wield the axe in these cases.
It's harsh on the staff, absolutely. The manner in which it unfolded was terrible and reflected badly on Ineos, agreed. But let's not pretend it wasn't a necessary cut to improve United's overall business performance.
We’ve laid off office staff , nothing wrong with this seeing as SAF had a say in it. He wasn’t just called into the office one day and told you’re redundant.There is no grounds to liken one to the other. We’re the cushy franchise because of him; that we have billions to piss away is because he lined the clubs coffers with it in the first place.
They’ve sacked the wrong manager ffs
For the sake of getting upset. He still has a role at the club, he is still getting paid and he is still coming to games.Yeah this'll be an unpopular move with a lot of fans.
Ineos should move quickly to generate some good PR by getting another manager who's currently contributing very little to the club off the books.
Can you give examples? Am genuinely interested.
They’ve sacked the wrong manager ffs
wasn't he paid salaries and bonuses during his time as a manager?If it was amicable then fair enough, but for me Ferguson IS United. He is entitled to everything after what he did for the club.
They’ve got much bigger things to worry about than a couple mill a year going to the great man that made the club what it is. The optics of this are terrible, fecking sort yourselves out INEOS!
I get every clubs has tonnes of ambassadors but their salaries from what it appears are basically like £100k (sir Bobby for example). It’s essentially a ceremonial or BD role.Dalglish at the scousers. Mainly players as managers staying this long isn't the norm obviously but just look at pretty much every club.
HOW DARE YOU!!! lee grant was paid 1.1m pounds a year for doing nothing and he has never even made us a treble winners!I find it crazy he was getting paid 2m a year almost 12 years after he retired. Absolute legend of the game but that’s just bizarre.
Now we just need to find a way to sell Giggs.
sold to the polisNow we just need to find a way to sell Giggs.
HOW DARE YOU!!! lee grant was paid 1.1m pounds a year for doing nothing and he has never even made us a treble winners!
Yeah apparently he said he was fine with it... As a solitary tear rolled down his cheek.If he's fine with it I don't see an issue.
Don't forget the pay and benefits he gets from being a non-Exec too (and still does). £24M is the bare minimum.It’s not the way you run a business mate. Lee Grants entire roll was third choice keeper and probably ticking a home grown spot in the squad
SAF has been paid around 24m since he retired? come off it when there’s been hundreds of layoffs at the club he doesn’t need the money mate.
For the sake of getting upset. He still has a role at the club, he is still getting paid and he is still coming to games.