Brazil is tropical and rains a lot and in southern Argentina its colder than Manchester, yet they hate our temperate weather? Never got that.
Should we just stop buying South American Players? | oops
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Whatever it is SA players tend not to adapt to it very well. SAF was a genius but most of his SA signings turned out to be flops. LVG doesn't have a great reputation with SA players either. Who knows, maybe if in the future we end up signing an SA manager than things will change.
at the moment we're only getting Andersons, Klebersons, ADMs etc
SAF is in the past, and LVg won't be here for that long. We have to sign the best player available. Simple as that. When two players are similar in ability then you naturally go for the one you don't have doubts regarding adaptability about.
For me, what nation a player is from doesn't matter much, it's if he's got the right mentality and professionalism required to improve every day as a player. Also some handle pressure and media criticism better than others, doesn't have anything to do with nationality.
Kleberson didn't make it because he wasn't good enough, and Anderson doesn't have the discipline or motivation to be a top athlete.
Kleberson didn't make it because he wasn't good enough, and Anderson doesn't have the discipline or motivation to be a top athlete.
Well Di Maria is class to be fair just out of form. Im not saying we should buy players BECAUSE they are south american. Just that we shouldnt dismiss them BECAUSE they are south american
History has taught us South American players have become a problem for us either from a playing or personal point of view.
Ive intentionally mentioned ADM as a player whose heart is not set at our club
Moggi at Juventus had this theory, he signed few south american players, only some good player to adjust the squad (Montero, Emerson and few others).
Buffon
Zebina Thuram Cannavaro Zambrotta
Camoranesi Vieira Emerson Nedved
Del Piero/Trezeguet Ibrahimovic
Zebina Thuram Cannavaro Zambrotta
Camoranesi Vieira Emerson Nedved
Del Piero/Trezeguet Ibrahimovic
Interesting and brave thread, we have had bad luck with Argentinians. I don't think anybody could argue against that.
I don't even know if it's a weather thing - Aguero, Tevez and Zabaleta have done well for City and so did Suarez for Liverpool.
Tevez did well for us, it was our own fault that went sour by buying Berbatov and making Tevez spend the season on the bench.
Should we stop buying South American players? Of course not. I thought we should have never bought DiMaria. DiMaria never wanted to leave Madrid in my opinion, he's not a bad player - but he didn't adjust and was shocking at the end. Veron was class, but beating out Keane and Scholes was a challenge very few could've mustered. Heinze was a c word, but quite good. The DaSilvas had potential and quite a few, including myself, are still unsure where that went wrong. Both Tevez and Berbatov still ignite debate. We just haven't had it click yet.
Pereira is from Brazil
He's a Brazilian National, he's not from there, he was born and raised in Belgium.
We should just wrap up this whole professional sport thing.
Hernandez
Valencia
Aguero
Fernandinho
Zabaleta
Tevez
Diego Costa (grew up in Brazil)
Ramires
Oscar
Courthino
Suarez
Willian
Sanchez
These are all proven in the Premier league. 8 of these play/played up North whereas 5 of them play down south.
It's a myth. We just need to buy the correct players and look after them properly.
Valencia
Aguero
Fernandinho
Zabaleta
Tevez
Diego Costa (grew up in Brazil)
Ramires
Oscar
Courthino
Suarez
Willian
Sanchez
These are all proven in the Premier league. 8 of these play/played up North whereas 5 of them play down south.
It's a myth. We just need to buy the correct players and look after them properly.
South American?
Looking at our historical records it seems apparant that we had more missers then hitters, but that should never be used as a justification to the thought of stopping to buy players from a specific etnicity. The players we bought had potential to succeed, i mean Di Maria was the man of the match in a CL final for crying out loud. Falcao had a nasty injury, but we all had hopes that he would atleast score 8-10 goals. Fabio was seen as the more talented of the two and at one point there was a case for Rafael being the best rightback in the league, so where would that place Fabio ? Forlan departed Old Trafford to score 54 goals in 104 games for Villareal and contuining that proces with 74 goals for Atletico Madrid. Veron was a driving force for Lazio and a monster in midfield. From a logical perspective we can argue a positive case why a lot of these players were signed, but age/mentality/social circumstances decided that they would not become an important chapter in United’s history. Yes there seems to be a trend of negative impact (at United) regarding the players from this etnicity, but by no means should that ever argue the case for stopping to buy them.
I think his transfer policy went more like - less South American players, more Italian referees.
Wouldn't avoid them because they're South American.
In the case of ADM, it was reported that last season PSG was his destination of choice but he signed for us. Then he had a season at the club that was underwhelming and ends up(most likely) at the club he wanted to begin with.
So I'd just mark it down as an ADM thing rather than a South American one.
In the case of ADM, it was reported that last season PSG was his destination of choice but he signed for us. Then he had a season at the club that was underwhelming and ends up(most likely) at the club he wanted to begin with.
So I'd just mark it down as an ADM thing rather than a South American one.
Bayern's approach is the only prudent way for a non-South European team to operate. The vast difference in climate and culture combined with the uneven level of play in South America makes buying direct too risky. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a South American who had handled the transition to Germany or Eastern Europe, but even when buying from Spain or Italy I would be very, very careful.
Fergies record in recent years with purchases was terrible
How did he manage to win so much despite average / disappointing purchases lol.Also I meant South American not African haha. Trying to wonder which was successful with us.
I assumed he was. Mexico isn't too far from South America, never bothered looking it up. Fantastic contribution to the conversation though keep up the nit picking.
And on the same day the thread is created we sign another one.
And on the same day the thread is created we sign another one.
Up there with the time a member made a thread about a player being shite and he ended up scoring in the first half(2 hours later)..... last season.
Sergio Romero has Europe experience...
'Should we just stop buying Messi/Ronaldo?'
Someone make it. Quick.
Someone make it. Quick.
Next!
Ffs
This place constantly amazes me.
"Oops"
Technically Mexico is part of North America. But with the culture being so similar and Mexico regularly appearing in the copa america i would also include him in a list of latin american players to have played for us.
Some timing.
So this was a serious thread then? I thought the whole thing was just joking.
To compound it, the next signing will be Otamendi