Should we change captaincy as well?

Maybe need to start a new thread with a poll about captaincy. I expect Maguire will hold on to it until the permanent manager is appointed.
 
That joke of a captain needs to be sold first thing to Newcastle.
 
As Keano said, we have a bunch of bluffers and Maguire is the biggest. De Gea or Bruno.
 
Was he given the captaincy soley because he's a tank and he plays centre back? Sounds very much like an Ole thing to do. Was the United captaincy the first time he had ever captained a club?
He may have tokenly captained Leicester in a friendly possibly. He always had very experienced captains, Dawson at Hull, then Evans/Morgan.

It was one of the big issues I had with us signing him: 1) We had no experienced defenders left as we were selling Smalling. 2) He had zero history of even being able to organise a defence. It's like us signing Söyüncü and expecting him to lead the defence. It was insanity.
 
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You need a captain to be strong and show a bit of character when results aren't going your way. Maguire has been abysmal and if anything has buried his head in the sand.

Either that or he actually has been leading by example in trying to get Ole the sack for the benefit of the team... :lol:
 
Changing captaincy would benefit the team and maguire himself. He knows the armband is too heavy for him.

ronaldo, bruno, de gea. In that order
 
Whoever comes next MUST take the captaincy away from him at all costs. Either Maguire accepts it is the best and only way to restart with less pressure, or he makes a scene and throws his United career to the garbage bin himself by asking a transfer. Either way, he no longer has the big end of the stick.

That being said, I only want a strong character to wear that armband. Ronaldo first, Bruno second in line, and De Gea third in line.
 
If he can't recover from that he's not the type you want as a captain anyway.

Guy is dull as dishwater and has no aura about him. No business being a captain.
He was the pitch version of Ole. That’s why he is captain in the first place.
Your words made it so clear.
 
Worst then Xhaka. At least, Xhaka kept the keys of the house while being a kid.
 
A new manager will surely pick their own captain. Whoever it is, I'm expecting Ronaldo to be captain.
 
Maguire shouldn’t be at the club never mind be captain.

he‘s a championship level clogger at best.

id have sooner spent that 80m on the stadium tbh.

I mean, that second sentence is pure tosh.

But sure, it should be up for discussion with a new manager. Bold move for a new manager as first order of business in a new dressing room mind.
 
This should be the new manager's first decision. Maguire was an awful choice for the arm band and it needs to be changed.
 
It's also pretty clear most of the players dont respect Maguire

De Gea and Ronaldo can barely contain their disdain for him. We've already seen Rashford insulting him on the pitch. Varane must be wondering what on earth he walked into being paired with such a useless lump.
Maybe I’m just out of the loop but I’d be interested to see examples if there are any?
 
Absolutely. Perfect opportunity to remove it from a man who is, imo, the worst United captain of the past 30 years.
 
If we give it to Ronaldo then he will have to play week in week out which, at age 37, is stupid. Bruno is a decent shout but he's basically a less talented Ronaldo minus his trophies. Ronaldo won't be listening to him. DDG has been around the longest but he's got the leadership skills of a Zombie. I'd say my captain would be Varane.

A- He's a CB which means he sees the game in front of him and is situated right in the middle of that leaky defence
B- He's been side by side to Ramos so he learnt from the best
C- His trophy record speaks for itself. Even Ronaldo has to respect that.
 
If we give it to Ronaldo then he will have to play week in week out which, at age 37, is stupid. Bruno is a decent shout but he's basically a less talented Ronaldo minus his trophies. Ronaldo won't be listening to him. DDG has been around the longest but he's got the leadership skills of a Zombie. I'd say my captain would be Varane.

A- He's a CB which means he sees the game in front of him and is situated right in the middle of that leaky defence
B- He's been side by side to Ramos so he learnt from the best
C- His trophy record speaks for itself. Even Ronaldo has to respect that.
Captaincy can be tiered. Ronaldo first choice and then Varane/Bruno second choice.
 
Would be throwing Maguire under the bus to strip the captaincy from him. Nowhere for a player to recover from that
He is not doing any service to help himself, this man has a poor judgement at every turn. Surely if he is that weak he has no business being the captain? The proof is always in the pudding.

The petulance when he threw the arm band at Bruno after getting sent off pissed me right off, the guy has no class.

He isn't a leader, never has been and never will be and he's usually the one creating the sense of panic with his heavy touches, lapses of concentration and composure.
Symbolically very sundering, disgraceful and mentally weak thing to do, a massive display of loss of faith towards the responsibility given to him.

Also every video of the incidence has quickly been scrubbed online.
 
I don't get why he was made captain in the first place. He'd only been at the club for 12 nanoseconds and did nothing to earn it. Seems that defenders typically get the captain's armband and this is just a case of that.
Ronaldo should get it because of his experience and the fact he actually seems give a shit and won't throw the armband away in a hissy fit
 
Ronaldo should have it.

While I agree with you on that, we must leave that to whoever gets appointed.
But I definitely think that Maguire is struggling with his own poor form as well as the massive weight of being captain.
 
We need to sack the "coaching" staff first. Priorities.

My preferences for captain would be Ronnie, Cavani and Matic.
 
The petulance when he threw the arm band at Bruno after getting sent off pissed me right off, the guy has no class.

He isn't a leader, never has been and never will be and he's usually the one creating the sense of panic with his heavy touches, lapses of concentration and composure.
Didn't see that. Any video of it?
 
I think it will be a huge shock if the next permanent manager doesn't change captain. I hope Fletcher does it straight away.
 
He's about as inspiring as a stale loaf of bread.

Get rid of the captaincy and never let him in front of a microphone again. He never seems to understand how far the club have fallen or take responsibility.

Roy Keane was 100% right on his embarrassing celebration for England, again showing his lack of understanding of what is expected of him as Man Utd captain.
 
While I agree with you on that, we must leave that to whoever gets appointed.
But I definitely think that Maguire is struggling with his own poor form as well as the massive weight of being captain.
Yeah I think it might help him if he was stripped of it, it's too much for him. Ronaldo on the other hand would revel in it.
 
What an insignificant point this is within the grand scheme of things.

Considering we have to cross the bridge of appointing a manager, implementing a new tactical structure, implementing a new training regime, possibly appointing new staff, picking these players up..all of which is far more important, we decide to look at the armband wearer.

It really doesn't matter that much. Leaders lead. If we haven't got enough of them in the dressing room then shuffling an armband around is not going to compensate.
Leaders lead and the best of them should be given the responsibility to do so. If any schmuck can be given the armband under the pretence of "a leader doesn't need a tag to lead", might as well scrap that armband from our club or better yet, throw it like a bride and whoever catches it gets to become the captain for the match. At least that would be fun.
 
I think he should be given the benefit of doubt.
Ole rushed him back into a broken team. A clearly unfit player lost confidence and it spiralled from there.
 
What should happen immediately is Maguire gets dropped for a game and Ronaldo gets the armband. Just set a precedent, effectively make them co-captains if we need and normalise the idea Maguire can get dropped if he's playing badly. Him and Shaw need a couple of weeks off so just do it and don't worry about their status.
 


Found a clip of him throwing the armband to the ground like it was a piece of rubbish. In a time of need to do this is disgraceful.
 
I think he should be given the benefit of doubt.
Ole rushed him back into a broken team. A clearly unfit player lost confidence and it spiralled from there.
He’s been a disaster all season though, not just since he came back, plus he plays well for England against shit teams.

He’s not a captain, it’s easy to captain anything when you’re winning but he has no idea how to handle this kind of situation. Looks like a deer in headlights every match.