Should the captaincy be removed from Bruno?

hellhunter said:
Being captain doesn't matter one bit
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I understand that the role is sometimes overexaggerated, but I disagree with you. I think it matters, probably not as much as many like to think, but it does.
If your captain is a headless emotional chicken, it can permeate through the team, especially with younger players.
 
With our current set of players, we should approach the captaincy in terms of which player is likely to be affected the least by the captaincy, rather than which player would thrive with the captaincy. I don't think any of our players particularly want to be captain right now tbh.
 
Of course not. We absolutely don't need the extra drama removing the captaincy would cause for very little gain.
 
The team lack leaders and has done for years. Rooney and Carrick are the last I can think of and they were not exactly up there with the likes of Keane, Schmeichel, Ferdinand, etc.
 
hellhunter said:
Maybe it's an English thing, but in Germany no one cares about captaincy. Our lack of leadership is an absolute issue, not having the right guy wear a piece of cloth isn't. When Germany won the world cup, quiet and polite guy Lahm was captain while I don't think there's any doubt warrior Schweinsteiger was the team's leader.

I'm blatantly pro Bruno, so surely somewhat biased. I can understand the frustration with his performances lately, he's been subpar. But it amuses me when people point to red cards as a captain. Just look at our previous captains, the one people look up to the most routinely blew a fuse and got send off
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Just imagine if he kung-fu kicked a fan and gets 8-months ban.

Or blatantly stamped on a player's leg that might ruin that player's career, just because an exchanged words.
 
Robaldo said:
There is no alternative option, but you can't be sent off three times in as many months in very innocuous circumstances and expect to continue, it's not good enough.
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Innocuous is the word though - one was rescinded as it was a disgrace, the one in Europe was him trying to get on the end of a high ball chasing a late equaliser - hardly like he done a Keane or Cantona and just booted someone.
 
Honestly I’m amazed we’ve not gone to a leadership group approach yet. You have a ‘club captain’ but the armband is rotated through a group of 4-5 leaders. I’ve seen it in the other sport I follow when teams have been trying to build culture (Wigan) and it’s worked wonders.
It builds leaders throughout the core group and an inner circle around the boss.
From our current group I’d say:

De Ligt,
Maguire,
Martinez,
Fernandes,
Ugarte

Would be a strong group to start with.
 
Why, he is doing great on top having all attributes for a great captain lul
 
I don't understand what we gain from denoting Bruno?
 
Doing it now could kill any remaining morale in the dressing room.
 
Yeh. If AMorim doesn't see him of having starting role next season, we should give it to someone else. It can wait until the summer though, and see what players we'll get.
 
I don’t like Bruno at all but no I think that’s the wrong move. Sell him or drop him from the team, keeping him in the team and stripping him of the captaincy will only add to the drama. Bruno also doesn’t seem like the type to handle this well in the way Maguire did.

We’ve seen with Rashford that our attack is too shit to cope without a half arsed Rashford, I don’t even want to know what it would be like with Bruno after upsetting him.
 
Give it to one of the ballboys/girls before anybody in this team really.
 
I dont think the captaincy matters a lot at this moment. It matters on a tight run ship needing that extra oomph to push the extra 10%

At this rate we have bigger thing to worry than armband. If it's not Bruno it'll be someone else with the same problem. They cant simply hark instructions and expected everyone to fall in line when even the manager fails to extract it from the sets of players

The icing on the cake, minus the cake.

Bruno problem is not captaincy. He's not working well when you expect him pull out magic every game. He needs a working structure, he needs a system where the other 10 players knows where and what to do with and without the ball. It's a complication of miriads of other problems
 
No. This is not SAFs star studded team. If the manager finds him useless in contributing, he will get dropped and as a result, he will lose captaincy. There are no captain material players of the past standards.


His whining or making faces is overstated. It is such a minor thing and not at all relevant to the team play. The moral high horse that several fans have is ridiculous. Pretty much all players of this era behave like whiny kids. They go down in a heap with slightest of touches.

We no longer live in an era of tough players. If you behaved like captains of old United team, you will be hounded by media, refs, FA and be getting red cards left and right.
 
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He shouldn’t be removed as captain, not this nonsense again from ex players and pundits. I’ve not heard one bad thing from managers and teammates.

Same thing was said about Pogba not being a true leader, funnily enough coming from the same group.

Once we invest, I don’t think Bruno will be here after next season if all goes to plan. He’ll be moved on but not a priority yet.
 
sullydnl said:
Of course not. We absolutely don't need the extra drama removing the captaincy would cause for very little gain.
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Any gain needs to be grabbed with two hands at this point.

If getting the armband off him gets us 3/4 extra points this season but upsets him, so be it.
 
Yes!

Bruno is clearly a great player on his day.

Unfortunately his is petulant and his body language is angry toddler like.

The only reason to keep him as captain is that there is currently no one else.
 
When "great player" is followed by "on his day", you have to be sceptical.

Bruno's good doesn’t outweigh his bad, he's average with high peaks and low lows.
 
Jacob said:
When "great player" is followed by "on his day", you have to be sceptical.
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Absolutely. I think our managers leave him on when he’s having a stinker because they know he can do something that will change the game. They wait for his moment. There’s little strength in depth to challenge him/ take his place when he’s out of form.
 
I echo some of the points raised above, appreciated.

I don’t think we should take the captaincy from BF, mainly due to the view that there is not a suitable replacement with character, determination and communication skills…..one that is a guaranteed starter in Ruben Amorims first choice XI.

Looking at the team in the tunnel at Wolves, not one of them looked in anyway fired up or interested. The captain stood gormless, like he was walking his side into the inevitable.

We needed some fire there at that moment. That could have come from anyone in the tunnel however.

Aside from Bruno, Maguire would stand out more than most, but it is all very yo-yo. I’m not convinced BF would take the removal of the captaincy as well as HM did either.

Review of the captaincy in the summer, where we will have had a EPL run in and 2 transfer windows.

The calls for Bruno to be benched are strange. The poor discipline, will hopefully be addressed by the new manager. BF more often than not, puts a shift in and tries to keep things positively moving towards goal.

Saying that, if he is not best suited for Ruben Amorims long term plan, it would be best for all parties for him to leave and for us to get some new talent in the summer.
 
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Once again people fall under media narratives. No, Bruno should remain captain.
 
Martial said:


A captain does more than just wear the armband on the pitch.
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We are in a mess, our next 3 games, Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal could turn it into a crisis. We could have done with a win against wolves to calm the noise, it would have been really helpful if our captain hadn’t been sent off for the 3rd time this season costing us the game.

Amorim has an impossible job at present he needs the big players to step up.
 
SJR should charge £20 per fan vote to decide the captain till end of the season. Could probably raise £100m easily that way (5m votes) and deal with any PSR/FFP issues. However much commercialisation has happened to-date there is still so much more obvious to come for United.
 
This is such a non issue but somehow some fans do care about who wears the armband. Just do it like Real Madrid and throw the band towards the player who has been a senior teammember the longest and be done with the whole discussion.

It doesnt matter who the captain is at all.
 
Stadjer said:
This is such a non issue but somehow it matters to people who wears the armband. Just do it like Real Madrid and throw the band towards the player who has been a senior teammember the longest and be done with the whole discussion.

It doesnt matter who the captain is at all.
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Couldn't agree more, weird obsession by some
 
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