Should Rooney walk straight back into the team?

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Dislodging either Hernandez or Kagawa?

Does it send out the right message? Is he deserving based on his form this season up to now?

At the outside it could happen this weekend against Liverpool but more likely afterwards. Some i know view this as a given yet...where is the harm in making him work for it or wait until the form of others require his return?
 
Rooney would easily walk back in at Kagawa's expense as Kagawa hasn't set the world on fire yet in a United shirt. I'm not so sure if he deserves to walk back in for Hernandez though as he has been in good form and getting on the scoresheet consistently while Rooney has been injured. Saying that we do know that Rooney does bring more to the team overall, so I would still expect him to go straight back into the team regardless. I can see Rooney/RVP and Hernandez being rotated depending on games.
 
Definitely not. Rooney's last game was a stinker. Hernandez has been scoring goals. It sends the wrong message saying "Yeah, you're straight back in."

I'd like it if Fergie showed him this renewed ambition by picking the better striker in RVP, and if we are to play a second striker, let it be Hernandez. I'd like to see Kagawa playing, but we certainly won't be playing all three, and if we are, Kagawa would be out of position and would lose his effectiveness.

Having Rooney on the bench is a terrific option to have. Imagine the fire in him after being benched despite apparently telling Fergie he's fit, against Liverpool too. He could make a fantastic impact sub.
 
Yes, he's much too good to be benched because he had a period out with injury. Rooney's a far better player than Hernandez and Kagawa's not been anything special in the Premier League.
 
Yes. Even if he isn't at his best, we usually play far better when he's there.
 
Seriously? I know you bulk up the forums with some shit Nick but even this is scraping the barrel.
 
Should our best player walk straight back into the team...hmmmm....

Liverpool will most likely play three in the middle. Playing Rooney will provide us with another body in the middle as he likes to drop back and get involved. If my memory serves me right, his second half substitution against Tottenham was after a comeback from injury and he helped turn the game on its head.

I would feel more comfortable with Rooney in the starting line-up. I always do.
 
F-Red said:
Seriously? I know you bulk up the forums with some shit Nick but even this is scraping the barrel.
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:lol: You wound me.

I am quite serious, the team so far as the forwards are concerned is in decent shape and i see no reason why we shouldn't reward good form or take advantage of RVP's presence at the club.

Rooney can be our best player to be sure but would you say this has been the case more often than not since August? Furthermore he doesn't always leap right back into form.

Van Perise is clearly No 1, competition amongst the supporting cast if you will seems both fitting and to our benefit in the long run. Of course if and when our Dutch goal machine could use a match or two on the bench, one of the others steps up.

Am i being heretical? I did red once where a victim was given a bag of gunpowder to hand around their neck before taken to the stake. :smirk:
 
Depends on the game but I'd have him on the bench first game back and then put him back in. He is brilliant. We are stronger with him in the team and he won't get sharp on the bench
 
If he's fit, absolutely yes.Because he simply benefits the team more than Hernandez (who is great off the bench) and Kagawa by starting games.
Rooney is who he is, you take the bad with the good, he'll have abysmal performances here and there but overall he's been a very good player for Man United.
 
Hell Yes and twice on Sunday especially this Sunday.
 
I trust Fergie.

I don't really care if Fergie has Rooney sit it out against Liverpool, even if he's fully recovered. But if it were a CL final, this wouldn't even be a serious question, would it?

Rooney had just recovered from the thigh gash and was on the bench to start the game v Spurs. We got raped in the first half. In goes Rooney in the second half and we almost snaked out the win, largely thanks to #10.

Lesson earned? Never doubt Rooney's impact on the squad even when he's not playing at peak form.
 
Dargonk said:
Rooney would easily walk back in at Kagawa's expense as Kagawa hasn't set the world on fire yet in a United shirt. I'm not so sure if he deserves to walk back in for Hernandez though as he has been in good form and getting on the scoresheet consistently while Rooney has been injured. Saying that we do know that Rooney does bring more to the team overall, so I would still expect him to go straight back into the team regardless. I can see Rooney/RVP and Hernandez being rotated depending on games.
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The Caf were raving about him for the first few games this season then he got injured. It's hard to set the world on fire when you're injured and he's only just back so I think you're being a little hard on him.
 
At the moment Kagawa is not doing great and you cant play two strikers against every team. So in short, YES! Rooney will sit behind the striker and spray passes around and keep us ticking.
 
Fitness (and a rest!) should be the only reason Rooney doesn't start ahead of either. He's just an immensely gifted footballer. Yes, his inconsistency is why he's not rated amongst the worlds elite, but people shouldn't forget just how good or important he is to our team.

I still dont think he's playing (starting) Sunday though. Fitness will be a issue.
 
If he is fit then he should always start, he's been inconsistent at times this year but he's more than capable of regaining his status as our most important player.

For Sunday I would keep Chich in though, fitness will be an issue for Rooney and Hernandez deserves to keep his place.
 
No. He's going to come back out of shape and extremely rusty like he always does. I personally wouldn't play him against Liverpool unless we're up by a few goals. He can play versus West Ham.
 
I don't understand why it's now become a common opinion that Rooney's been below-par so far, it's like people only remember the Everton and Swansea games and nothing in between. He scored a double v City just two matches before the Swansea game and he's on 7 goals and 7 assists from 12 league starts so there's no problem productivity-wise. Add in the fact he's looked like striking up a genuine partnership with van Persie that could create the most devastating attack in the world and it's a no-brainer for me.

Hernández doesn't deserve to be dropped but the only way he's staying in the team is if we play all three.
 
Brwned said:
I don't understand why it's now become a common opinion that Rooney's been below-par so far, it's like people only remember the Everton and Swansea games and nothing in between. He scored a double v City just two matches before the Swansea game and he's on 7 goals and 7 assists from 12 league starts so there's no problem productivity-wise.
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He's been inconsistent, probably slightly below par on the whole IMO though there have been some fantastic games such as Reading and City which maybe balance it out. I don't think Everton and Swansea were his only poor games either, he was pretty disappointing against Villa IIRC.
 
Brwned said:
I don't understand why it's now become a common opinion that Rooney's been below-par so far, it's like people only remember the Everton and Swansea games and nothing in between. He scored a double v City just two matches before the Swansea game and he's on 7 goals and 7 assists from 12 league starts so there's no problem productivity-wise. Add in the fact he's looked like striking up a genuine partnership with van Persie that could create the most devastating attack in the world and it's a no-brainer for me.

Hernández doesn't deserve to be dropped but the only way he's staying in the team is if we play all three.
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For me it has nothing to do with him being below par. It's simply that he almost never comes back from a long term injury and plays well immediately, he pretty much always needs a few games to work himself back in to any sort of form.
 
Van Persie's contribution has muddled people's view. He is having a 2008 Ronaldo like impact on the team, whereas Rooney has had a stop start season till date.

It has always been flair over hardwork for football fans. The importance of someone else' hardwork in order for flair players do their job is easily lost on most people. It's a shame that some of our fans don't appreciate how lucky we are to have Rooney as part of Manchester United.
 
Forevergiggs said:
Van Persie's contribution has muddled people's view. He is having a 2008 Ronaldo like impact on the team, whereas Rooney has had a stop start season till date.

It has always been flair over hardwork for football fans. The importance of someone else' hardwork in order for flair players do their job is easily lost on most people. It's a shame that some of our fans don't appreciate how lucky we are to have Rooney as part of Manchester United.
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:lol: For feck sake.

Is that aimed at me?
 
gza the genius said:
No. He's going to come back out of shape and extremely rusty like he always does. I personally wouldn't play him against Liverpool unless we're up by a few goals. He can play versus West Ham.
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Exactly. He always takes a few games to get back into it so it's not worth starting him in a big game - particularly when other players are doing well.
 
Forevergiggs said:
It was a general comment after Brwned's post.

You can judge for yourself if you belong to the category. I don't usually point at specific individuals.
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Well it was a wierd and patronising post considering nobody in the thread expressed any under-appreciation for Rooney.

Seems like you are addressing an issue that isn't even there.
 
Theon said:
Well it was a wierd and patronising post considering nobody in the thread expressed any under-appreciation for Rooney.

Seems like you are addressing an issue that isn't even there.
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It might not be something that's been directly said in the thread but the under appreciation of Rooney has definitely been rife on this board for the last 2 years. Moreso now we have RVP.

The fact it's even questioned whether he should walk back into the team kind of pulls at the same thread. Certainly "at the expense of Kagawa". I can understand the want from people to have Hernandez in the team over Rooney because he's in good form but what has Kagawa shown?
 
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