Shakhtar Donetsk vs. Manchester United

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Disagree. They're a quality side with a formidable home record and an extremely hostile atmosphere. I'd have liked some more chances ourselves, but it's not a poor performance.

1:1 wouls still be an excellent result, but the football has been abysmal.
 
The only thing which annoys me is how slow and labored our play is. I thought Moyes was going to introduce a pressing game but then we go and buy Fellaini, who's possibly not going to compliment the "not the fastest player" Carrick in midfield.

Not been a bad performance though. Shakthar hardly created anything. We just gave away silly/cheap possession.
 
Even if we lost it's hardly the end of the fecking world. Shaktar are a great team with a mental home record.
 
I think we have been terrible. Solid defensively for the most part but a distinct lack of cutting edge. We are Manchester United ffs!

Seems to me you've never seen a SAF team play away in the CL.

feckin' hell, that was our usual solid and effective away performance. Could have had a couple if we were more progressive but it was just a jammy goal FFS.
 
We've had such an underdog mentality tonight it's ridiculous. Apart from the first 10 minutes we have played like a European minnow quite frankly. Shaktar are a good side, with a good record at home....but you only have to look at Bayern tonight, and the way they take the game to good opponents in their own back yard, to see how far away we are. It's a difference in attitude, in confidence to go out and really express yourself and impose your game on the opposition.

We seem to have completely lost the ability to do that.
 
We've had such an underdog mentality tonight it's ridiculous. Apart from the first 10 minutes we have played like a European minnow quite frankly. Shaktar are a good side, with a good record at home....but you only have to look at Bayern tonight, and the way they take the game to good opponents in their own back yard, to see how far away we are. It's a difference in attitude, in confidence to go out and really express yourself and impose your game on the opposition.

We seem to have completely lost the ability to do that.


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We lost that in about 1998
 
Seems to me you've never seen a SAF team play away in the CL.

feckin' hell, that was our usual solid and effective away performance. Could have had a couple if we were more progressive but it was just a jammy goal FFS.

Yeah, the memorys are short around here!
Away games in Europe have usually been slow and pedantic ever since Fergie "saw the light" in the early 2000s.
 
Moyes saving subs to waste 3 minutes of extra time? Only explanation I can. RVP isn't even offering an outlet any more, and we've become less solid with Giggs.
 
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