[Abraxas]

thank you so much for this. Everyone who wants to shit on DDG doesnt seem to understand that if you want to play out from the back you see this all the time. Same people want to shit on DDG for being the reason we apparently cant keep possession. No it is shit like maguire who cant do a simple turn and go that cost us.

Yes but "playing out of the back" is not a dogmatic principle in every minute of every game of every match. Teams still have to have situational awareness, right?

Opening minutes in a knockout away game, crowd up, pressing set, you know your man (Harry Maguire), you know his nerves and that he's not a fixture in the team. Feck me, you see him every day in training as a keeper. I'm not expecting DeGea to complete this analysis on the fly but actually it should be bloody intuitive that this wasn't the option. He simply miscalculated and then Maguire has to shoulder the blame for not dealing with a situation that could and should have been dealt with.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

Maguire called for the ball and then panicked. DDG was like at Max 10% at fault. Rest all lies wit captain fantastic, as usual.

55/45. De Gea should never give Maguire that ball even if he calls for it. You give that ball if he has an outlet. Maguire still needs to do better there, but De Gea should be clearing that long

 

[Rustyspider13]

At least we're going for it.

 

[Big_Bro]

The key ingredient missing in this whole set up is something call Bruno.

 

[Alemar]

Shaw and Rashford on. Sancho and Bissaka off

 

[joedirt87]

So Rashford and Shaw on but no changes to midfield. I guess we cross our fingers we become moments FC.

 

[GledTheRed]

Both Juve and Roma could be out tonight and we're losing as well. Such a shame because this is easier route to a trophy than Brighton/City.

Definitely, we are not winning the FA Cup.

 

[Judas]

Sancho is currently as sad to watch as Maguire, just for different reasons. Stunned how disappointing he continues to be.

 

[Hughie77]

Maguire gets targeted everytime he receives the ball, teams press when he's on it, it happened last season and last game. Opposition know he's crap when pressed. They do there homework like we would. DDG needs to just slam it up the pitch..

 

[rajds89]

Ex England International defending an English International. What's new?

Was also very critical of Sancho..

 

[Bestofthebest]

I don’t think Maguire realises that players can actually move as quickly as the 3 Sevilla players did. However, de Gea can see everything and should have hoofed it.

 

[devilish]

Paul is full of shit.

There's 40 center backs playing in the Premiership who get that kind of ball under pressure week in week out.

Maguire also asked for the ball

 

[Member 125352]

We’re being completely battered on all fronts, hard to watch, hard to stomach

 

[Irrational.]

That bullshit Fernandes booking in the first leg cost us the game.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Because De Gea has more twice as much time, and twice as much information to make his decision (considering he can see the entire fecking pitch before playing that pass, unlike Maguire who's facing his own goal)

So Maguire can't see the bloke right next to him? Then that's just crap play.

I would understand if he was being pressured when he was playing the ball, but he literally got to get a clean pass away.

 

[thegregster]

Sancho off.

Hopefully he is fecked of permanently.

 

[Erics_Collar]

I never want to see Sancho in our shirt again.

He's beyond hopeless.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

Playing that pass is how you get out of the high press. Maguire has to first-time a lofted pass out to the right and then we're clear and they are three men down defensively. This is what people are asking him to do.

exactly. I swear people dont understand what playing out of the back truly means. Think they expect it to magically have 20 yards of space for every player to take 3-4 touches and do whatever they want.

 

[Cassidy]

I'm sure Sebastian Prödl just has an agenda to protect our English players too...

Or is old school type who doesn’t like playing out from the back. Its the right pass for our team. Maguire fecked it up

 

[NoLogo]

Nothing wrong with the pass or even our captain calling for it, he was taking charge of the situation, problem was he didn't expect the press so fast and he brain farted.

Simple as that.

It's a problem with the entire team right now. We are too low energy and always take too long for everything. That's why we lose the one on ones and challanges for the ball almost every time and the passing lanes are closed down the second we decide to pass. It's just too slow.

 

[FreakyJim]

And let’s bring on not quite fit players so they can aggravate their injuries.

 

[James35]

Whether it’s more Maguires or De Gea fault, or equal blame. One thing is certain Maguire is an abomination of a CB at this level, just a slow pondering lump who shouldn’t be near our starting 11.

 

[cj_sparky]

Sancho off, that is a relief.

Hopefully Rashford and Shaw aren't back too soon.

 

[crossy1686]

Sancho playing like a man with the certainty he gets paid £350k a week no matter how much work he does.

 

[Gazza]

How much did these players cost and how much are they on?

Like any footballer, they cost money to buy and they get paid a salary and they can still play badly despite that. This is a team missing no less than 5 guaranteed starters. who make a huge impact on how we play. There is a reason we wanted a mass clear out last summer, because our squad quality isn't good enough, that's not news. Of course Sevilla will play with more fluidity and confidence.

Our captain is playing. Our first choice striker is playing. This is a quarter final of the Europa League and the players have played like the game was already decided since the 10th minute.

Our captain is our fourth-choice defender who everyone wants out. Our first choice striker has barely played all season and is rusty a/f as a result. We should play with more fire but it's easier said than done when your team is decimated and the opponents play off the atmosphere like that.

 

[48 hours]

Fred definitely not in the good books

 

[Globule]

The key ingredient missing in this whole set up is something call Bruno.

It's why I'll never understand the amount of stick he gets.

 

[George The Best]

Scholes: there’s only 1 centre half in world football who could take that ball and it’s not Harry Maguire.

who is it?!

Rio

 

[Sylar]

Those two subs needed

Fred hopefully soon

 

[Leg-End]

Just let him walk next year and save the money instead.

I would in a heartbeat, we won’t progress with him at the back. I’d take a hit on the odd worldie save he manages for someone less talented as long as they can play with the ball a bit.

 

[JinnerJamie]

The worry is we always come out in the second half like we’ve been lobotomised

edit: 2-0

 

[Bobski]

Martinez would have let the ball run and turned around

Probably, though I think the pass lacked the zip that would be optimal for that move. De Gea trundled it in.

 

[Barnslig]

I was genuinely excited when Sancho arrived., as he looked the real deal in clips. What a joke this lad is. A coward of the highest order. Shirks out of every tackle. Loses every 50/50 even 70/30’s he bottles it. His 2nd touch is a tackle. Can’t pass, can’t shoot, never heads or tackles as it hurts. Stunned how poor he is.

This is what annoys me the most, absolutely no fight in him. Weakest mentality I've ever seen in a united player, surely that's linked to his month long mental health hiatus?

 

[glasgow 21]

He is picking the team, the tactics and motivating them for this shite. You cant just give him a pass

listen, your blaming the manager with the injury list we have ? incredible analysis. This team only started going with variance and Martinez all our problems is disconnect from defense to midfield. They are having to go back to get the ball of defense thus sevilla is moving on us

 

[GifLord]

haha

 

[Cassidy]

Game over

 

[48 hours]

Sigh

 

[groovyalbert]

Damning for Sancho. Not sure how many more chances he's going to have. Seems totally out of his depth at us.

 

[Dazzmondo]

Oh my god

 

[cj_sparky]

Christ terrible start