Sevilla 3:0 Manchester United

NinjaZombie · Apr 20, 2023

dpansheth said:
both clowns.. but if DDG was able to distribute better then 3 players closing in on Maguire meant field is open down.

Yeah good point. That goes for Maguire as well. He deals with that press and he takes 3 players out of the equation. Martinez has shown that he can do it.

At this point, if Ten Hag wants us to progress the ball in a certain way, Maguire (and De Gea, arguably) has to have no part in any future United team.

M Bison · Apr 20, 2023

Scholes: there’s only 1 centre half in world football who could take that ball and it’s not Harry Maguire.

who is it?!

Matt851 · Apr 20, 2023

I can't work out if casemiros absence in this game is a result of the general dysfunction of the team or his own fault. It really feels like he has been missing every time sevolle have attacked which is odd for a top class dm, and especially one as experienced as him

SouthMancRed · Apr 20, 2023

McGrathsipan said:
Can't see the feckjng ball when it goes into the air.

Know what you mean! Do 99% of there fans normally wear their white shirts or have the club handed a load out tonight?

Annihilate Now! · Apr 20, 2023

mitchmouse said:
Hilarious seeing the excuse people come up with so they don't have to blame DDG...

Blaming DDG more then Maguire is crazy.

If you're saying that DDG needs to make a better decision there, then how can that same logic not be applied to Maguire x1000

68cob · Apr 20, 2023

redshaw said:
Do we get Fred on and maybe Shaw for Maguire before he costs us another.

This is what I was thinking

SuperiorXI · Apr 20, 2023

vanrooney said:
hopefully you are right. and yes at times they jogged around like its a kickabout in the park

I was infuriated to see this, it was shocking almost like they didn't expect it. They don't think like winners these lot.

ken11 · Apr 20, 2023

Ah, down 1-0 - just as I expected!

Ceteris · Apr 20, 2023

kouroux said:
I wonder how Maguire will spin this

He doesn't have to prove anything?

El Zoido · Apr 20, 2023

Maguire has zero composure, he shits himself when he’s on the ball under any kind of pressure. He has no place in a team with any aspirations of playing football.

JinnerJamie · Apr 20, 2023

crossy1686 said:
Maybe chuck Sabitzer in there as well but yeah, that's my 7 for sure.

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt for now

crossy1686 · Apr 20, 2023

Here we go, rushing Rashford back from injury to dig out these fecking pricks

mitchmouse · Apr 20, 2023

Annihilate Now! said:
Blaming DDG more then Maguire is crazy.

If you're saying that DDG needs to make a better decision there, then how can that same logic not be applied to Maguire x1000

paul scholes disagrees with you

Gavinb33 · Apr 20, 2023

The defense and midfield are so disjointed there are gaps everywhere and they are just running through them at will and we can't cope with it

M Bison · Apr 20, 2023

mitchmouse said:
exactly but as scholesy said, he only know one CB in world football who;d cope with the pass (not even sure who he means)

just quoted that, who is the CB that could take-the ball in that position?!

RopersReturn · Apr 20, 2023

kouroux said:
I wonder how Maguire will spin this

He’ll say he was blindsided.

jamesjimmybyrondean · Apr 20, 2023

Chicharo said:

Martinez would have let the ball run and turned around

crossy1686 · Apr 20, 2023

JinnerJamie said:
Lets give him the benefit of the doubt for now

He's got about 2 weeks to change my mind

Fergies Gum · Apr 20, 2023

ken11 said:
Ah, down 1-0 - just as I expected!

We should be 3 nil down.

Andycoleno9 · Apr 20, 2023

Cutch said:
Maguire is literally refusing to make any sort of forward pass. Sideways and backwards every single time since his feck up

Bigger problem is that he waits with it. Varane and Lisandro do sideways passes but they do it quick. Maguire does it so slow which brings pressure on playees who get a ball

Samoerai Jack · Apr 20, 2023

In hindsight Maguire should shoulder some of the blame, as he called for the ball in a terrible position and put De Gea under pressure in the play before. But De Gea lacks all awareness and composure required to make the right call. He had other options, but once the ball came to Maguire there was no saving it. Maybe Martinez would've done better than Maguire, but I'd argue Heaton would've done better than De Gea here. Just imagine Edwin van der Sar instead of De Gea, and the difference in presence is massive. It's not that Maguire or De Gea are bad players, not at all. They just lack the skill set to play out from the back. Recently the constant presence of players like Shaw, Varane or Martinez compensated for their shortcomings, but now with all these injuries they have to sort it out themselves and it's clear they cannot.

As a sidenote, Casemiro looks suspect as well, playing out from the back. Might as well switch out Eriksen for Fred and bring in Rashford for Antony for a good old round of oleball. Nothing wrong with playing the long ball if that's what the players are best suited to.

Mmm-Qatarian · Apr 20, 2023

Annihilate Now! said:
Blaming DDG more then Maguire is crazy.

If you're saying that DDG needs to make a better decision there, then how can that same logic not be applied to Maguire x1000

It's ridiculous to blame either more than the other. They're both equally fecking stupid.

Rayman96 · Apr 20, 2023

This will show what ETH is about.
Regardless of the result, if we come out flying at least we will have given it a go. If, as recently, we come out tepid then I honestly despair for us

crossy1686 · Apr 20, 2023

M Bison said:
Scholes: there’s only 1 centre half in world football who could take that ball and it’s not Harry Maguire.

who is it?!

Martinez

TrueRed79 · Apr 20, 2023

Maguire, Sabitzer, Sancho and Martial all absolute shite. How many subs can we make, 5?

JinnerJamie · Apr 20, 2023

crossy1686 said:
He's got about 2 weeks to change my mind

Deal

FerociousCorgis · Apr 20, 2023

Chicharo said:

thank you so much for this. Everyone who wants to shit on DDG doesnt seem to understand that if you want to play out from the back you see this all the time. Same people want to shit on DDG for being the reason we apparently cant keep possession. No it is shit like maguire who cant do a simple turn and go that cost us.

Enigma_87 · Apr 20, 2023

Dec9003 said:
I’ve looked at it plenty of times, it’s not the safest pass nor is it the one that gets us up the pitch better. I’m not defending Maguire, he could’ve done miles better with it, but it doesn’t make it a good pass. Neither De Gea or Maguire suit playing out from the back.

Can’t argue about that.

Resch · Apr 20, 2023

Proedl said that goal was DDG fault. He should have cleared the ball....

MDFC Manager · Apr 20, 2023

Dansk said:
Nothing really wrong with DDG making that pass. It's a perfectly reasonable decision in that moment and his captain is telling him to do it. This is all on Maguire. He's not "surrounded by 3 Sevilla players." He just fecked it up all on his own.

Yeah clear as day to me with this.

DDG not completely blameless though. It's not as if he doesn't know who Maguire is and what he's likely to do.

Eric_the_Red99 · Apr 20, 2023

Sassy Colin said:
Maguire asked for the ball, still, De Gea knows he's shite on the ball.

DDG has just got used to playing shit balls like that to Martinez all season, knowing that he has the ability to deal with them. But it’s a stupid tactic that I really wish we’d bin altogether.

saivet · Apr 20, 2023

Dazzmondo said:
Ya can't really argue with any of that. He's disappointed me tremendously since arriving.

Was a big fan of him at Dortmund but just not been good enough and he's lacking some of the basics in terms of determination. He's not a natural warrior like Antony but he's got to show more fight at a bare minimum which he hasn't showed at all.

crossy1686 · Apr 20, 2023

Rayman96 said:
This will show what ETH is about.
Regardless of the result, if we come out flying at least we will have given it a go. If, as recently, we come out tepid then I honestly despair for us

You're going to be very disappointed with how we start this second half

wolvored · Apr 20, 2023

DWelbz19 said:
Our captain is playing. Our first choice striker is playing. This is a quarter final of the Europa League and the players have played like the game was already decided since the 10th minute.

Thats the problem the captain playing

NinjaZombie · Apr 20, 2023

jamesjimmybyrondean said:
Martinez would have let the ball run and turned around

Spot on.

Messier1994 · Apr 20, 2023

SuperiorXI said:
It's a mental thing. They need to match the intensity of Sevilla, they need to fight like their lives depend on it. It's up to the manager to get this out of them. After that, we have enough quality to win for sure.

I don’t think it has anything to do with mentality.

Our CBs stand extremely deep. When a Sevilla player gets the ball they have so much room to play up on. It’s impossible to press hard and take away space when the other team has 3-4 easy options every time they get the ball.

Shakesy · Apr 20, 2023

Kevzter said:
Not now buddy we getting hammered

My apologies

bdspeedy · Apr 20, 2023

Mmm-Qatarian said:
I mean De Gea keeps playing these hospital passes and it's caused problems before. We conceded against Brentford because De Gea made another one of those ridiculous passes.

100 percent Slab-asses fault. He's as slow as shit and as slow witted under pressure as shit is. I don't want anything bad to happen to him, just make him go away. Hopefully a change of scenery will reduce the pressure. He's clearly not good under any kind of pressure.

DickDastardly · Apr 20, 2023

mitchmouse said:
exactly but as scholesy said, he only know one CB in world football who;d cope with the pass (not even sure who he means)

Paul is full of shit.

There's 40 center backs playing in the Premiership who get that kind of ball under pressure week in week out.

talking robot · Apr 20, 2023

Son said:
I’m not enjoying Ten Hag’s football much recently. That first half was an utter disgrace.

Antony is a baller though. Very impressed with him recently.

in fairness we’re missing a lot of good players tonight

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