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Don't buy any Madrid players. They seem to insert buy-back clause in every young player they sell or seems to make their eventual sale for a loan move very difficult.
From the likes of Morata, Ceballos, Hakimi, they get a loan move to their desired club but seems to move/sell eventually to a club which isn't the first choice for the player.
So, stay clear if Real Madrid is insistent on a buy-back clause and not a right of first-refusal.
 
Don't buy any Madrid players. They seem to insert buy-back clause in every young player they sell or seems to make their eventual sale for a loan move very difficult.
From the likes of Morata, Ceballos, Hakimi, they get a loan move to their desired club but seems to move/sell eventually to a club which isn't the first choice for the player.
So, stay clear if Real Madrid is insistent on a buy-back clause and not a right of first-refusal.
United would never buy him with a buy-back clause.
 
Not sure why is it matter with what I posted. The point is that manager also involved and has responsibility for our signings, the manager is given the power to have the final say.



I don't, on the other side you are being sucked in too much of what the media says.

Getting extra bodies to improve the squad & getting players the coach wants to improve the squad, there is no difference between them. The purpose is the same which to improve the squad. You don't just spend 50m on just mere of extra bodies that doesn't improve the squad like Bebe or Obertan signing. 50m is lot of money for the club to spend on just mere of extra bodies which shown this year that we withdrew from Gabriel & Badiashile which cost less than 50m.
The point is the managers do not always get who they want, even reasonable targets. Surely you see that? When they don’t get who they want, sometimes the hierarchy offer them someone else. Surely you see that? Sometimes a manager will be left with little choice but to accept who he is offered otherwise end up with no signings at all. Surely you see that?

Fred is a good player. You can argue about whether he’s worth £50m but he definitely improved the squad so you can’t blame the manager for not saying no when the alternative is to get nobody at all. Surely you see that? But, hey, maybe you don’t.
 
The point is the managers do not always get who they want, even reasonable targets. Surely you see that? When they don’t get who they want, sometimes the hierarchy offer them someone else. Surely you see that? Sometimes a manager will be left with little choice but to accept who he is offered otherwise end up with no signings at all. Surely you see that?

Perisic for 55m, Sergio Ramos, Neymar & Thomas Muller were the targets that United failed to give to their managers which none of them are reachable & realistic. Those are not reasonable targets! Stop making excuse by calling them "reasonable targets''.

Nothing Ed can do if manager is asking someone like Ramos to leave Real or Inter set a ridiculous transfer fees on the player like Perisic. The market doesn't open to everybody which is why they are given multiple list for alternative and it's part of the manager's job to choose the right one or wait until the market is open again for the player.

Fred is a good player. You can argue about whether he’s worth £50m but he definitely improved the squad so you can’t blame the manager for not saying no when the alternative is to get nobody at all. Surely you see that? But, hey, maybe you don’t.

:wenger: Who's blaming Mourinho or calling Fred isn't good player? Stop making a claim to pretend that I said the opposite which I never say it. You are the one who made statement that he's just an extra body signing which I am against it.
 
tbf id prefer we had no dealings with Madrid for that very reason, we'll always have players they'll be interested in so keep comms between the two club at zero

You can turn it around and say - they will always have players we will be interested in as well
 
Starting to sound very much like Ole is happy to just have Williams as backup LB rather than try and sign cover.

I really hoped we would get Telles if this guy didn't happen but looks like that isn't happening either which is gutting and leaves us well short in that position.
 
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Fuming we are just going to have Williams as LB cover rather than sign someone
Very disappointing if we do that. With Shaw's injury issues we definitely need cover/competition. With AWB better defensively than attacking wise it would have made sense to get a good attacking LB.
 
Perisic for 55m, Sergio Ramos, Neymar & Thomas Muller were the targets that United failed to give to their managers which none of them are reachable & realistic. Those are not reasonable targets! Stop making excuse by calling them "reasonable targets''.

Nothing Ed can do if manager is asking someone like Ramos to leave Real or Inter set a ridiculous transfer fees on the player like Perisic. The market doesn't open to everybody which is why they are given multiple list for alternative and it's part of the manager's job to choose the right one or wait until the market is open again for the player.



:wenger: Who's blaming Mourinho or calling Fred isn't good player? Stop making a claim to pretend that I said the opposite which I never say it. You are the one who made statement that he's just an extra body signing which I am against it.
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here. I am saying when the preferred targets cannot be got sometimes Ed and his boys are offering other ones. If the choice is between these and nobody, if they improve the squad then the manager may have little choice but to agree.

With regard to Reguilon, I have no idea if we’re after this guy or not but he doesn’t fit Ole’s blueprint. That’s why I said it could only be the money men pursuing what they consider to be a marquee signing - from the mighty Real, no less.

I would add that I wouldn’t dream of defending our last three managers, their records speak for themselves. You can bash them as much as you like for all I care. But I do think recruitment has been an absolute shambles and the common link there is Ed and friends.
 
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here. I am saying when the preferred targets cannot be got sometimes Ed and his boys are offering other ones. If the choice is between these and nobody, if they improve the squad then the manager may have little choice but to agree.

With regard to Reguilon, I have no idea if we’re after this guy or not but he doesn’t fit Ole’s blueprint. That’s why I said it could only be the money men pursuing what they consider to be a marquee signing - from the mighty Real, no less.

I would add that I wouldn’t dream of defending our last three managers, their records speak for themselves. You can bash them as much as you like for all I care. But I do think recruitment has been an absolute shambles and the common link there is Ed and friends.

He isn't considered to fit Ole's blueprint because of this buyback clause rumour which is still yet to be confirmed by our top sources
 
As it stands right now, Reguilon would be cover for Shaw. I wouldn’t lost that much sleep over a buyback clause for the left fullback, provided we can work out conditions such as the minimum of years before the clause can be activated and the transfer fee itself. If we really want to punk Madrid around we could insist on a sell back clause (not sure the term exists) should Reguilon prove to be the next Rojo.
 
As it stands right now, Reguilon would be cover for Shaw. I wouldn’t lost that much sleep over a buyback clause for the left fullback, provided we can work out conditions such as the minimum of years before the clause can be activated and the transfer fee itself. If we really want to punk Madrid around we could insist on a sell back clause (not sure the term exists) should Reguilon prove to be the next Rojo.

Yeah should just get him before Spurs beat us to him and he inevitably sets up a goal against us again
 
He isn't considered to fit Ole's blueprint because of this buyback clause rumour which is still yet to be confirmed by our top sources
Oh yes, well I stand to be corrected on that of course. And pretty much anything I post.
 
Fuming we are just going to have Williams as LB cover rather than sign someone

I'm in two minds honestly.

On one hand, Sergio Reguillon looks pretty good. Would improve our attack tremendously and give us a fullback that can cause damage with his delivery.

On the other, I like Williams and feel he will get better and better. Buying someone like Sergio might stunt his growth and reduce his playing time.

If we switch him to right back then that means Dalot is done. I feel both lads are young and still have the potential to improve tremendously. They just need time and in Dalot's case to avoid injuries.

Hopefully Brandon and Diogo will surprise us this year. I'd also imagine the rest of our transfer budget will be used on Sancho, if it happens. Which for me will improve our team in a position of need much more than a left back.
 
I think you’re barking up the wrong tree here. I am saying when the preferred targets cannot be got sometimes Ed and his boys are offering other ones. If the choice is between these and nobody, if they improve the squad then the manager may have little choice but to agree.

With regard to Reguilon, I have no idea if we’re after this guy or not but he doesn’t fit Ole’s blueprint. That’s why I said it could only be the money men pursuing what they consider to be a marquee signing - from the mighty Real, no less.

I would add that I wouldn’t dream of defending our last three managers, their records speak for themselves. You can bash them as much as you like for all I care. But I do think recruitment has been an absolute shambles and the common link there is Ed and friends.

You are forgetting where the argument started here. What about you go read your own original post that started the argument and also my first post that you replied:

Ole won’t sign him unless the guy really wants to come here and if Real is the club of his life - why would he even think of leaving?

We know how Ole rolls. I doubt we ever considered him unless Ed was doing his usual King Cnut’s trick of buying players nobody wants.

Signing player will eventually be in the manager's decision as the final decision. Jose is responsible for all the first team signings and Fred is for sure someone he wanted or someone he agreed to sign. This stupid claim that Ed signed players that nobody wants need to stopped. If manager or Jose doesn't want the player, he could say no, why purposely let the club to waste 50m on a player he doesn't want.

Manager takes every responsibility for every signings. If the no 1 target is unreachable then go to next one in the list which is common. Market never open for every player that's why it's manager job to also select the best alternative when he was given the list.

To say that our manager is being forced to sign player for the first team is absolutely non-sense. Our manager has the final say in every of transfer, and if we end up signing this guy is because the manager wants him not because Ed was forcing him to buy that nobody wants.
 
I think all the journalists are unanimous on this one.

Reguilon has been offered to United but United themselves have shown very little interest.

I wouldn't mind if we could get him on loan. Provides us cover over a season with lower revenues.
 
No, no I love it mate. It’s just...
It's fine.

It's not like I took 3 days off work to painstakingly figure out words that rhyme with twitch, confirm the pronunciation of Reguilon and blend it all together into what my mum has referred to as "poetry".

I'm over it.
 
They just bought Kolarov and have Young also, absolutely not true.

Could be, Kolarov is 34, Young is 35 and Reguilon is 23. Personally don't see it myself but I certainly wouldn't write it off due to them having 2 ageing players on their books.Young is only a short term contract as well, didn't he initially sign for a 6 month contract with option for another yr.
 
You are forgetting where the argument started here. What about you go read your own original post that started the argument and also my first post that you replied:





Manager takes every responsibility for every signings. If the no 1 target is unreachable then go to next one in the list which is common. Market never open for every player that's why it's manager job to also select the best alternative when he was given the list.

To say that our manager is being forced to sign player for the first team is absolutely non-sense. Our manager has the final say in every of transfer, and if we end up signing this guy is because the manager wants him not because Ed was forcing him to buy that nobody wants.
Yes you can read, give yourself a biscuit.

I think you are making a total meal of this. Let me put it another way, I think Ed buys players nobody wants unless the alternative is to buy no players at all. There.

If that sounds harsh, boo hoo, I’m sure he can take it.
 
You are forgetting where the argument started here. What about you go read your own original post that started the argument and also my first post that you replied:





Manager takes every responsibility for every signings. If the no 1 target is unreachable then go to next one in the list which is common. Market never open for every player that's why it's manager job to also select the best alternative when he was given the list.

To say that our manager is being forced to sign player for the first team is absolutely non-sense. Our manager has the final say in every of transfer, and if we end up signing this guy is because the manager wants him not because Ed was forcing him to buy that nobody wants.
Oh yes, and one more thing, who says our targets are unattainable? Ed? Look at how Chelsea do business, wambam thank you ma’am. No messing. Mou never had any problem getting top, top players with Roman.

And No I’m not defending Mou, I’m having a pop at Ed.

Was Maguire really unattainable? No, we bought him later when Ed pulled his socks up.
 
Why is this thread so active?

we were offered him, we didn’t want him. End of story. If we wanted him, he’d have signed by now.
 
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