I'd enter him into the UFC if he was that good as being able to take a man's arm and dislocate his shoulder. Some of the things you see are just ridiculous. Did he try and take Salah down during a tussle? Yes. Did he try and dislocate his shoulder? If he did, he's got a new career making martial arts films. GSP couldnt have done that shit.
Sergio Ramos
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Since Pique moved to Barca:
Pique has 7 league titles to Ramos' 2.
Pique has 3 CL's to Ramos' 4.
Both have won 3 international tournaments.
Pique probably has more Copa Del Rey's too but who cares about that.
Something a lot of people are conveniently forgetting/omitting.
Damn right, couldn't have put it better myself.
https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-...ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah
You can't be serious.
You can't be serious.
https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-...ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah
You can't be serious.
Sergio Ramos intentionally kept Mohamed Salah's arm under his armpit, causing dislocation of his shoulder. Not only missing the rest of the game, but also missing the FIFA World Cup 2018.
In addition he kept acting that Liverpool players fouled him falsely, causing the referee to give Manne a yellow card he did not deserve.
Sergio Ramos represents an awful example to future generations of football players. Instead of winning matches fairly, he uses tricks that defy the spirit of the game and fair play.
UEFA and FIFA should take measures against Ramos and similar players, using the video recordings of matches to keep the spirit of the game.
https://www.change.org/p/uefa-uefa-...ramos-for-intentionally-hurting-mohamed-salah
You can't be serious.
Dear God the idiots. Maybe if Salah didn't pull him first, but this is just too stupid and too salty.
Snowflake generation.
Dear God the idiots. Maybe if Salah didn't pull him first, but this is just too stupid and too salty.
Ramos had him sussed. Salah has pulled that arm link before a few times.
I’m more pissed off at him for his play acting. He blatantly pretended to be elbowed by Mane to get him sent off. Scumbag of a player but his trophy count is outstanding.
Can’t fault Ramos for being stronger than Salah.
Nice angle, no doubt it'll get ignored though.
Dear God the idiots. Maybe if Salah didn't pull him first, but this is just too stupid and too salty.
You put too much emphasize on team achievements. You have to look at individual performances. Pique has roughly the same trophy count as Ramos, but is not even close to Ramos or some of the guys mentioned above in terms of performances.
Also, Ramos is not the defender with the most achievements. Three defenders have won Ballon D'Or on top of winning the big prizes at club and national level and Ramos is not one of them.
Sergio Ramos is a c*ntish Roy Keane / Gattuso / Diego Costa / etc type of player that you love when he's part of your team and you hate if he's part of the opposite fan and all that bla bla bla. Everybody knows Sergio Ramos is a dodgy player, but along the years he has learnt to be really cynical, clever, hiding it with that "smiles and honor" thing, which as I said in other thread, is a fundamental part of knowing how to compete and what makes a difference between "adult" and "kid" footballers, knowing how to push to the limits the game.
That said, reading some people saying he did that on purpose, it's one of the most silly things I've read yesterday all along the web. First time I saw it live I said "nah it's just a football fight, like many other fights in game, most of them not resulting in any injury". This one just went wrong for Salah, nothing else. It's damn football, not ballet, and calling that intentional or violent is ridiculous imo. There's room for everything in the game, it's not all as simple as "taking the ball and kicking it to the net". You may like it, you may not, everyone has an opinion about that type of players, but they are part of football, and most of the greatest teams in history, actually, had not only one player like that, but a bunch of them. It's just that there's always one that stands out as scapegoat, catching the overall attention, and making some others in the same team not so dodgy in comparison... when actually, they are too. Every winning team had someone covering that role, and every loser team has always forgotten to cover that role. Even Guardiola's Barça had players like that, making any neutral fan cringe and facepalm when he tried to sell it as some kind of moral, pure and clean football. The Busquets meme is still hilarious.
That said, reading some people saying he did that on purpose, it's one of the most silly things I've read yesterday all along the web. First time I saw it live I said "nah it's just a football fight, like many other fights in game, most of them not resulting in any injury". This one just went wrong for Salah, nothing else. It's damn football, not ballet, and calling that intentional or violent is ridiculous imo. There's room for everything in the game, it's not all as simple as "taking the ball and kicking it to the net". You may like it, you may not, everyone has an opinion about that type of players, but they are part of football, and most of the greatest teams in history, actually, had not only one player like that, but a bunch of them. It's just that there's always one that stands out as scapegoat, catching the overall attention, and making some others in the same team not so dodgy in comparison... when actually, they are too. Every winning team had someone covering that role, and every loser team has always forgotten to cover that role. Even Guardiola's Barça had players like that, making any neutral fan cringe and facepalm when he tried to sell it as some kind of moral, pure and clean football. The Busquets meme is still hilarious.
I couldn't have said this better.
I just realised yesterday that he really is the sole reason why I always cheer the opposition in any of the Real matches. I don't mind hard defenders but the play-acting and delibrate hurting/dirty plays just make me intensely detest him. Rest of Real I have no problems. The same was with Pepe. Horrible human beings.
Yesterday's incident was typical Ramos written all over it. He had a choice of disengaging his arm from Salah's but finished the mma move and even putting his body weight on it. I'm not saying he sought to intentionally break/dislocate but he really didn't do jack's shit to minimise collaterar damage either as majority of the players do in situations like that. Anyone who has a brother and have been fighting with him you know you pull your punches. And you very well know what I mean by that. It was so Ramos-like after too. With job well done written all over his face. This final is in rhe bag. He wasn't sorry at all of destroying his opponent dreams of trying to play a good game in final and world cup. And salah genuinely is one of the most likable players out there so I think the hate for Ramos and Real just got doubled yesterday. He genuinely needs to look over his shoulder for Egyptians now.
What is baffling is people here in the caf saying 'thank God for Ramos' and 'he came to the rescue'. Classless at best this kind of thing.
I think most of the people would have felt vindicated and justice dealt if Mane would have scythed Ramos down breaking both legs in revenge. The one tackle where Ramos jumped at the slightest touch and Mane got carded. Be honest with your feelings guys.
The supreme prick Ramos is the one guy 90% in polls would want to see his one-uppance come. And it has nothing to do with Liverpool or United or City.
It's not some one off with Ramos either. When something shitty is going down it's almost guaranteed he is involved.
I would NOT want him to play for my team even if it meant winning CL. Some things are just no-go in my book. Man's reputation and decency value is something you can't buy. Winning by whatever it takes is not that cool.
Pool lost the final in the most comical way and I was laughing out loud when Karius vacuumed the second. And I do cheer Pool on too. All I wanted was to see good footie match with full starting lineups. Felt bad for Carvajal too.
Would have been interesting to see the game out that way.
Whatever you say, it is amazing that he hurt the other shoulder.
Dear God the idiots. Maybe if Salah didn't pull him first, but this is just too stupid and too salty.
feckin great faceplant as well
He's possibly the most cynical player in current football world, certainly European. I suspect every RM fan loves him, and there's a great deal of 'hate' every else.
Thing is, he wins. End of.
Did he mean it last night? He may not have engineered it, but he made sure how he fell. It can't keep being a coincidence.
Meanwhile he's probably asleep next to a beautiful wife, with a third CL winners medal on the trot, and I'm typing random thoughts about it at half two in the morning.
In a couple of months time all anyone is going to remember is that Real Madrid won three CLs on the spin, so which ever way you dress it up, job done Sergio. Winners find a way to win, and that probably sums up this Madrid team, personified by Ramos.
Thing is, he wins. End of.
Did he mean it last night? He may not have engineered it, but he made sure how he fell. It can't keep being a coincidence.
Meanwhile he's probably asleep next to a beautiful wife, with a third CL winners medal on the trot, and I'm typing random thoughts about it at half two in the morning.
In a couple of months time all anyone is going to remember is that Real Madrid won three CLs on the spin, so which ever way you dress it up, job done Sergio. Winners find a way to win, and that probably sums up this Madrid team, personified by Ramos.
Ramos is a grade A twat but a fantastic defender and a leader ..
On Sale in Liverpool FC shop from tomorrow (probably)
Absolute cnut, shithouse of a leader with a warrior mentality and a serial winner.
Everything a manager dreams of in a CB captain.
Everything a manager dreams of in a CB captain.
Why would you count it from some random year when both are about the same age?
Ramos was a starter at a younger age, and has two more league titles in 2007 and 2008.
For playing 9 matches as a sub or whatever? No he doesn't. While Ramos has been a starter since 2004-05 for Sevilla, always playing more than 30 league matches.
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Man , i would love to have such a ball playing cb like him in our team , you saw how he was unbothered with Liverpool high pressing , so calm in possession , had Xavi's like accuracy in passing the ball around. I remember how he let himself being fouled by Mane to waste time. We don't have CB as clever as him.
Then Pique technically has a league and CL at United...
Didn't remember these praises last season during certain moments
Was immense in the first half hour when Liverpool looked threatening. For a 32 year old who's played over 750 first team matches (all at high level) and has won as much as he has, it's impressive that he's in prime physical condition.
I thought I was taking the piss when I said Salah should have known better than to go one on one with Ramos like that. Didn’t think there would have been any truth to it, but seeing this...
Dear God the idiots. Maybe if Salah didn't pull him first, but this is just too stupid and too salty.
Same for me. At first I though it was just Ramos being Ramos (like going hard into Dybala early in the game last season which scared him and kept him at bay for the rest of the game), but this was all Salah doing. Ramos is just too experienced to let Salah get the better of him in a situation like this.
Always felt Hierro was Rolls Royce of defender in how he played although he too liked a red card. Has a couple of european cups on his CV aswell although of course nothing at International level.
Ramos is good don't get me wrong but all this greatest defender stuff....Generally way Football has gone last 15 years I don't think enough of them have the instinct that the good defenders in the 90s had in how to read the game.
Take the Liverpool goal on Saturday. Ramos starting position is off so he's beaten to the header that Mane taps in.
I've seen too many joke goals Madrid have conceded this season in La liga with him in the heart of defence to take the greatest defender stuff.
Have a watch on youtube of Paul McGrath man marking Baggio at 94 world cup on a masterclass of defending.
I could have missed it in any of the previous replies, but do people, who call out Ramos for purposely injuring Salah, see that it was the Egyptian's right hand, that was clutched by Ramos, but he injured his left? It is 100% due to awkward falling and has nothing to do with Ramos' wrestling skills.
If I were to rebuild United from scratch, I'd start with Ramos and Diego Costa.
I miss that winning mentality. When Smailing speaks, you can tell he's the sort of person who wouldn't stop you eating from his plate.
I miss that winning mentality. When Smailing speaks, you can tell he's the sort of person who wouldn't stop you eating from his plate.
Gattuso and Keane never dived and simulated like Ramos. The fact that he is tough is not the worst part, it comes with the territory
Because football has evolved a lot since those times.
Sure, I was talking about being a master of the shady aspects of the game. They all were/are. There are 2 branches for it, which are also compatible, a player can do both things: some are simply tough territorial players, some are also annoying cheaters, with all the "cringey simulation acting/cheating/diving/crying" thing. For instance, I mentioned Busquets, and I wouldn't put him in the same style as Diego Costa obviously, but he's a fantastic cheating c*nt actor that helps the team thanks to not only being a fantastic footballer but also thanks to pulling those shady strings in game. It's another way of being a clever basterd. Some players are in the first branch, some players are in the second branch, some players are in both branches at the same time.
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As i remember, Ramos actually have a hard time against Lukaku and Fellaini. He is better at taking care of technical player rather than physical player.
Seeing Ramos and Varane in that RM defence just shows how far away we are:
Jones/Smalling?
Rojo?
Lindelöf????
Jones/Smalling?
Rojo?
Lindelöf????
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Theres a Petetion to punish Ramos for his behaviour and Antics on the pitch. They wantt to Hand this request to the Goverment , EU and FIFA and UEFA
Theres a Petetion to punish Ramos for his behaviour and Antics on the pitch. They wantt to Hand this request to the Goverment , EU and FIFA and UEFA
That's all Salah. It's not even a foul, like I thought it might have been.
Dear God the idiots. Maybe if Salah didn't pull him first, but this is just too stupid and too salty.
Bit much. He got lucky that Salah got injured. It had nothing to do with having him sussed.
That's because Ramos isn't a defensive great. The likes of him and Pique are excellent players but for me, they don't hold up against the greatest defenders. At Madrid and Barca they have had the luxury of playing in extremely dominant teams that get away with a good load of defensive feck ups due to the midfield and attacks being so absurdly good.Always felt Hierro was Rolls Royce of defender in how he played although he too liked a red card. Has a couple of european cups on his CV aswell although of course nothing at International level.
Ramos is good don't get me wrong but all this greatest defender stuff....Generally way Football has gone last 15 years I don't think enough of them have the instinct that the good defenders in the 90s had in how to read the game.
Take the Liverpool goal on Saturday. Ramos starting position is off so he's beaten to the header that Mane taps in.
I've seen too many joke goals Madrid have conceded this season in La liga with him in the heart of defence to take the greatest defender stuff.
Have a watch on youtube of Paul McGrath man marking Baggio at 94 world cup on a masterclass of defending.
Still, an excellent footballer, like Pique, mind you. But for example, I dont think he's on the same level as Rio.